Fred Bauder wrote:
I must agree with Mr Gerard, and taking that position, or any position
by the Foundation is a road I don't want to see WMF go down. I don't
want WMF to alienate anyone... anyone. The information must be free,
and global. For everyone.
Please don't intrepet this message
Fred Bauder wrote:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a memorial
project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in his concerns about the
motives behind this proposal.
I think half a dozen might do, one for the victims of Hitler, one for the
victims of Stalin,
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 11:02, David Gerard wrote:
Yes. However, it could be a valuable wiki to create privately. Generic
hosting is (a) really cheap (b) often includes MediaWiki out the box.
The wiki is unlikely to be vastly overloaded, so cheap hosting
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
I fail to see how simply presenting a list of peoples' names and telling
their
stories constitutes taking partisan sides in political disputes. It's
educating people about the impact of these events, plain and simple.
If we cannot present the personal tragedy
Fred Bauder wrote:
Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our
fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality?
Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of cemetery.
Maybe it would be better to start the project on Wikia. That would
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:
Fred Bauder wrote:
Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our
fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality?
Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of cemetery.
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our
fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality?
Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of cemetery.
I suspect it would turn into a universal
2008/12/25 Ian A. Holton poe...@gmail.com:
I do however believe that such a project is a good idea and also believe
that it being hosted outside of the WMF might even be benefitial and might
even be worth an organisation itself if the scope is extended to cover more
than just the victims of
2008/12/25 Ian A. Holton poe...@gmail.com:
I do however believe that such a project is a good idea and also
believe
that it being hosted outside of the WMF might even be benefitial and
might
even be worth an organisation itself if the scope is extended to cover
more
than just the victims
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
Can you and Kurt come up with a proposal that doesn't abandon our
fabulously useful and marketable air of neutrality?
Yes, good thought, I think we could. After all, it is a sort of
cemetery.
I suspect it would turn into a universal
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
I fail to see how simply presenting a list of peoples' names and
telling their
stories constitutes taking partisan sides in political disputes.
It's
educating people about the impact of these events, plain and simple.
If we cannot present the personal tragedy of
On Thursday 25 December 2008 03:34, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
I fail to see how simply presenting a list of peoples' names and telling
their stories constitutes taking partisan sides in political disputes.
It's educating people about the impact of these events, plain
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
I have submitted a new project proposal, at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Soviet_Repressions_Memorial
Isn't this the sort of thing we've been in the business of slowly
getting out of, with the move offsite of the September 11 memorial wiki?
The
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 03:10, Delirium wrote:
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
I have submitted a new project proposal, at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Soviet_Repressions_Memorial
Isn't this the sort of thing we've been in the business of slowly
getting out of, with the move
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 11:02, David Gerard wrote:
Yes. However, it could be a valuable wiki to create privately. Generic
hosting is (a) really cheap (b) often includes MediaWiki out the box.
The wiki is unlikely to be vastly overloaded, so cheap hosting would
do for a start.
See
On 12/24/08, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2008/12/24 Michael Bimmler mbimm...@gmail.com:
A project which is motivated in such a way cannot possibly be anything
else than biased...and indeed, the very concept of memorials is
biased: Why should we have a memorial of the victims of
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2008/12/24 Michael Bimmler mbimm...@gmail.com:
A project which is motivated in such a way cannot possibly be anything
else than biased
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 18:12, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a memorial
project for all disasters.
And what, in principle, is wrong with that?
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k...@kurtweber.us
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Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 18:12, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a memorial
project for all disasters.
And what, in principle, is wrong with that?
Kurt, et
project proposal: Soviet Repressions
Memorial
2008/12/24 Michael Bimmler mbimm...@gmail.com:
A project which is motivated in such a way cannot possibly be
anything else than biased...and indeed, the very concept of
memorials is biased: Why should we have a memorial of the victims
of Soviet
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Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 18:43, Phil Nash wrote:
Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have
a memorial project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in
his concerns about
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 18:43, Phil Nash wrote:
Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a
memorial project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in his
concerns about the motives behind this proposal.
I'm in some
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Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 19:25, Jon wrote:
I don't think it is something we should focus on. Let us focus
on our existing projects, perfect them. Reference my earlier
rationale.
Given that these are all volunteer
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Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 18:12, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a
memorial
project for all disasters.
And what, in principle, is wrong with that?
Kurt, et
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Fred Bauder wrote:
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Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 18:12, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have
a memorial project for all
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Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 19:25, Jon wrote:
I don't think it is something we should focus on. Let us focus
on our existing projects, perfect them. Reference my earlier
rationale.
Given that these are all
The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage
people around the world to collect and develop educational
content under a free license
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:free_content or in the public
domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally.
The memorial
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
If we stood for something, it might serve to invigorate.
You mean, taking a particular political position? I don't see that in
the mission.
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2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
Each of the millions who were starved, imprisoned, tortured, or killed
has a unique story. Each story is more significant and educational than a
Wikipedia article on Hitler or Stalin.
The same applies to the Sep11 wiki. Why was that moved
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a memorial
project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in his concerns about the
motives behind this proposal.
I think half a dozen might do, one for the victims of Hitler, one for the
victims of Stalin, one for the victims of Pol
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David Gerard wrote:
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
If we stood for something, it might serve to invigorate.
You mean, taking a particular political position? I don't see that
in the mission.
- d.
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
Oh, but we are, just by what we do. And the mass murders of the twentieth
century would have made short work of us. In fact, in the last regime
controlled by them Wikipedia is blocked.
Controlled by the Soviets, who I understand were the subject
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a memorial
project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in his concerns about the
motives behind this proposal.
I think half a dozen might do, one for the victims of Hitler, one for
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geni wrote:
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a
memorial project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in his
concerns about the motives behind this proposal.
I think half
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
Oh, but we are, just by what we do. And the mass murders of the
twentieth
century would have made short work of us. In fact, in the last regime
controlled by them Wikipedia is blocked.
Controlled by the Soviets, who I understand were the
2008/12/25 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
Well where will it stop? If we have a project, we should have a memorial
project for all disasters. I echo Mr. Bimmler in his concerns about the
motives behind this proposal.
I think half a dozen might do, one
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 20:30, David Gerard wrote:
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
Hard to keep things straight isn't it when the object is to make a point.
I speak of Red China, still controlled by Mao's heirs.
Well, yes. (Who thankfully are not gross incompetents at
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 20:30, David Gerard wrote:
2008/12/25 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
Hard to keep things straight isn't it when the object is to make a point.
I speak of Red China, still controlled by Mao's heirs.
Well, yes. (Who
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Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 19:53, you wrote:
I
I have submitted a new project proposal, at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Soviet_Repressions_Memorial
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