I have two suggestions about templates. I don’t know if Steven’s the right
person to ask about these particular ideas so I’m sending this email to him and
CCing it to Foundation-l.
First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to the
user’s talk page when they first
On 22 March 2012 08:37, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to the
user’s talk page when they first register, not only for EN but also for
Commons, Simple, and other projects?
Is there any evidence anyone reads the
On 03/22/12 1:37 AM, En Pine wrote:
First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to the
user’s talk page when they first register, not only for EN but also for
Commons, Simple, and other projects? Currently we require a human to do this,
which means that lots of
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:41:18 +
From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] User talk templates
Message-ID:
CAJ0tu1G_oGoEqB84B6BzO1Okd6k4LPoC8R6NB4H+TWX-=ps...@mail.gmail.com
On 22 March 2012 10:47, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
Your tone comes across as harsh.
I believe this is actually an objection to the content of my post
rather than its formatting.
Do you have any positive suggestions about how to improve editor retention?
This is evidence you
On 22 March 2012 10:56, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
Why would you not want to provide people guidance before they've made their
first edit, and why not provide them some encouragement to edit in a welcome
message?
Because in practice, new editors don't read them - they think the
Personal view:
Nice idea, and would certainly be popular with the arbitrators - but it
needs something to replace it that's slightly more complex than a
dispute resolution noticeboard. It's nice to see the WMF taking over
some of the more unpleasant roles that ArbCom does, but we then have no
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 08:41, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Every
article on a street should have video of the street, for example.
I can't say I find that a particularly exciting prospect. Especially
not, as perhaps I wrongly conjure from context given by this
discussion, video shot
On 22 March 2012 15:39, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote:
I can't say I find that a particularly exciting prospect. Especially
not, as perhaps I wrongly conjure from context given by this
discussion, video shot on mobile phones.
I'm picturing wonky-cam, shakey footage that someone has
I've read the responses over the past 24 hours and have followed the
suggestions made by Pine. I appreciate her proactive manner with addressing
issues and lack that she sees. While some may not agree with the automatic
welcome template idea, at least she's actively working toward and
presenting
Let's separate the two elements of a welcome message - one is an actual
welcome, a personal exchange that should be provided by a human being. The
other is the provision of useful information, links to policies and
guidelines and the sort of how-to information that anyone should have
easy access
Very good ideas Nathan. FWIW, I've only been reading this list for about a
year and a half or so. I present a lot of welcome messages, but always
check the user's editing history first, to ascertain which one would be
appropriate. Then, if they are continuing to edit a month later, I try to
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 22:01, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
think that we should move in the opposite direction, permitting and possibly
even encouraging people to be social (within reasonable limits) while
working collaboratively on our collective project of Wikipedia.
I agree.
These are both great questions Pine.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:37 AM, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to
the user’s talk page when they first register, not only for EN but also for
Commons, Simple, and other
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 15:41, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
True. But I do think it'd be an improvement on nothing, and will get
better with time.
Just after posting, my inbox pointed me towards this in a moment of
pleasing synchronicity:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:02, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
It's been discussed on-wiki before and firmly rejected (too lazy to
dig it out).
In the spirit of co-operation, I shall dig for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Use_a_bot_to_welcome_new_users
Bod
Making sure that all goodfaith newbies get welcomed is a great idea, but at
registration is not the right time. One of the consequences of Single User
Login is that an active editor who starts clicking interwiki links will
quickly they find themselves registered on shedloads of wikis, even if they
One problem with the assertion that manual welcomes are better than
automated welcomes is that it fails to parse the elements of a welcome
message. A personal message is obviously more meaningful as a method of
welcoming per se than an automated one; but all welcome messages contain
more than just
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:05:31 -0500
From: birgitte...@yahoo.com
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd:
Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:08 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
And the creator of Wikipedia:Short_popular_vital_articles has retired
after 16 days..due to harassment/accusations of sock puppetry/etc
The following translation are now available for the February 2012
Wikimedia Highlights, which combine some of the most relevant
information from the Wikimedia Foundation Report and the Wikimedia
engineering report for February 2012 with a selection of other
important events from the Wikimedia
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:08 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
And the creator of Wikipedia:Short_popular_vital_articles has retired
after 16 days..due to harassment/accusations of sock puppetry/etc
WereSpielChequers wrote:
... our steadily increasing proportion of spammers
Where are you seeing that? I've been monitoring COIBot report
contribution numbers and it seems about constant over the years to me.
and the large increase in our proportion of vandals since 2005
The proportion
In Twinkle, we can add a custom Welcome message. Is it possible to create a
customized Welcome template that allows the user to insert a personalized
message to the Twinkle interface? Or even make changes to the existing
templates that allows users to insert a personal message prior to placing
on
On Mar 22, 2012 8:46 PM, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson cindam...@gmail.com
wrote:
In Twinkle, we can add a custom Welcome message. Is it possible to create
a
customized Welcome template that allows the user to insert a personalized
message to the Twinkle interface? Or even make changes to the existing
On 3/22/2012 9:00 PM, Steven Walling wrote:
On Mar 22, 2012 8:46 PM, Cynthia Ashley-Nelsoncindam...@gmail.com
wrote:
In Twinkle, we can add a custom Welcome message. Is it possible to create a
customized Welcome template that allows the user to insert a personalized
message to the Twinkle
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.comwrote:
Wow, handwritten? I didn't know MediaWiki was going to skip straight past
WYSIWYG to OCR. Is it time to start weeding out editors with bad penmanship?
Wikipedians: they cut you no slack whatsoever for imprecise
I'm gonna hafta (sic) work on my handwriting. It's atrocious. ;) Have to
good night!
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com
wrote:
Wow, handwritten? I didn't know MediaWiki was going
Automated welcome message are tricky on the English Wikipedia, because it's
a tricky place to figure out why someone is editing, and how to communicate
with them. A large number of contributors with new accounts either do not
have a native level of English, are editing just because they can, are
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