Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-12-04 Thread Richard Stallman
Richard, I also like to see you show up in the GNOME Advisory Board meetings and mailing list as FSF's representative. Does that require travel, or can it be done by phone? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-12-04 Thread Luis Villa
On Dec 4, 2007 11:55 AM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, I also like to see you show up in the GNOME Advisory Board meetings and mailing list as FSF's representative. Does that require travel, or can it be done by phone? Typically by phone, though once annually by

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-12-03 Thread Richard Stallman
I don't recall that any candidate explicily rejected supporting the free software movement by means other than improving the attractiveness and success of GNOME. But several candidates answered in a way that seemed to pointedly imply a rejection of any such form of support for

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-12-02 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Richard Stallman I don't recall that any candidate explicily rejected supporting the free software movement by means other than improving the attractiveness and success of GNOME. But several candidates answered in a way that seemed to pointedly imply a rejection of any such form of

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-30 Thread Richard Stallman
The reason this is not so is that Microsoft is trying to spin the apparent support of GNOME into proof that OOXML is not bad for free software. Such a risk is always there. People who base their information on what one side of a story says are doomed to hear everything but

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-30 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 09:41:24AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Richard Stallman The reason this is not so is that Microsoft is trying to spin the apparent support of GNOME into proof that OOXML is not bad for free software. Microsoft haven't done so publicly thus far, but the risk

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-29 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 07:37:27PM -0500, Luis Villa wrote: On Nov 28, 2007 7:15 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see how the foundation can 'make sure' of anything in this instance. It can not force developers towards or away from either spec. That is

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-29 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:09:31PM -0500, Jody Goldberg wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 12:15:11AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 06:23:57PM -0500, Jody Goldberg wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:34:54PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: and I hope

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-29 Thread Jody Goldberg
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 08:25:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:09:31PM -0500, Jody Goldberg wrote: If you (or anyone else) is interested talk to the board. That is all it takes. I'd love to do it, but the weekly meetings are too much of a

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-29 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 05:40:47AM -0500, Jody Goldberg wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 08:25:30AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:09:31PM -0500, Jody Goldberg wrote: If you (or anyone else) is interested talk to the board. That is all it takes.

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-29 Thread Richard Stallman
What funding? No one is paying Jody to do what he does on OOXML; again, he is a volunteer, doing things voluntarily. If someone were to volunteer for ODF, the board would facilitate it. But the board isn't going to pay anyone to work on either standard. We have analogous

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-29 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Richard Stallman The reason this is not so is that Microsoft is trying to spin the apparent support of GNOME into proof that OOXML is not bad for free software. Microsoft haven't done so publicly thus far, but the risk is there, and we will endeavour to make it absolutely clear that

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-29 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 17:32 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: The reason this is not so is that Microsoft is trying to spin the apparent support of GNOME into proof that OOXML is not bad for free software. Such a risk is always there. People who base their information on what one side of a

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-28 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 21:34 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Hello, One question to candidates: Wil you promote the Foundation's participation on the reviewing of ODF? I think it is a no brainier that we should support review of any version of ODF. That being said it

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 06:23:57PM -0500, Jody Goldberg wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:34:54PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Hello, One question to candidates: Wil you promote the Foundation's participation on the reviewing of ODF? I'm sure it won't be for

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-28 Thread Luis Villa
On Nov 28, 2007 7:15 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see how the foundation can 'make sure' of anything in this instance. It can not force developers towards or away from either spec. That is simply not in it's mandate. I may be being obtuse, but what's not

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Gregory Leblanc While this is all technically true, I think it's somewhat misleading, based on my recollections, and what I could find in a brief browse of the mailing list archives. There was much clearer leadership in the community then, but I do not believe that the community

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-28 Thread Jody Goldberg
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 12:15:11AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 06:23:57PM -0500, Jody Goldberg wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:34:54PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: and I hope the Foundation will help make sure the users of GNOME can use the

Re: Question to candidates: what about next ODF?

2007-11-28 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
Hey, On 11/28/07, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, One question to candidates: Wil you promote the Foundation's participation on the reviewing of ODF? Why won't we?. It's on the interest of or community to promote free standards, free software and if