Re: Friend of GNOME annual subscription

2016-02-27 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On 3 February 2016 at 11:07, Pascal Terjan <pter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My annual adopt a hacker payment failed today due to an expired card,
> so I decided to cancel it to change hacker as my adopted hacker is
> sadly not really active anymore.
>
> When I tried to do so, it no longer seems possible to get the annual one.
>
> Text still says "Monthly or annual subscription payments made through
> Paypal will continue until you contact the GNOME Foundation to cancel
> the payments." but I see no way of making an annual subscription.

Sorry I noticed the correct address at the end of the form (friends@),
moving this discussion there
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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of January, 19th, 2016

2016-02-18 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On 18 February 2016 at 16:34, Karen Sandler  wrote:
> On 2016-02-18 11:20, Tobias Mueller wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> On So, 2016-01-24 at 16:33 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote:
>>  * Unixstickers
>>   * They're selling GNOME branded items
>>   * No trademark licence agreement has ever been signed with them
>> Are they offering anything related to computers under the name "GNOME"?
>> So far I only see stickers and pins:
>> https://www.unixstickers.com/tag/gnome
>>
>> Are we having trademarks outside the realms of "Downloadable computer
>> software tools and libraries used for the development of other software
>> applications; downloadable computer software development tools;
>> downloadable computer software for creating and managing a computer
>> desktop; downloadable computer software for use as a graphical user
>> interface; downloadable computer software for word processing, database
>> management, and use as a spreadsheet; Computer software development;
>> computer software design; computer programming for others; technical
>> consulting services in the field of computer software; licensing of
>> intellectual property." ?
>
>
> I note that the website unixstickers.com only sells stickers and pins
> related to computer software :)
>

More specifically those are under software category and the url makes
it very clear that they are using the brand of the GNOME  desktop
environment:

http://www.unixstickers.com/stickers/software_stickers/gnome-desktop-environment-linux-sticker
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Friend of GNOME annual subscription

2016-02-03 Thread Pascal Terjan 
My annual adopt a hacker payment failed today due to an expired card,
so I decided to cancel it to change hacker as my adopted hacker is
sadly not really active anymore.

When I tried to do so, it no longer seems possible to get the annual one.

Text still says "Monthly or annual subscription payments made through
Paypal will continue until you contact the GNOME Foundation to cancel
the payments." but I see no way of making an annual subscription.
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Re: Friend of GNOME annual subscription

2016-02-03 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On 3 February 2016 at 11:27, Tobias Mueller <mue...@cryptobitch.de> wrote:
> On Mi, 2016-02-03 at 11:07 +0000, Pascal Terjan wrote:
>> When I tried to do so, it no longer seems possible to get the annual
>> one.
> Right. I think it hasn't been at least since we migrated to the
> Wordpress.
>
> I remember having had discussions about it, but I don't really remember
> the arguments exchanged. I can imagine that the complexity of providing
> a UI for annual payment was considered to be too much.  But the code is
> here: <https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-web-www/tree/theme/page-frien
> ds.php>.  Feel free to send patches.

Thanks
For now replacing M with Y in the form created me an annual
subscription, I only forgot to change the name so it's called monthly
:)
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Re: Friend of GNOME annual subscription

2016-02-03 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On 3 Feb 2016 11:41, "Pascal Terjan" <pter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 3 February 2016 at 11:27, Tobias Mueller <mue...@cryptobitch.de> wrote:
> > On Mi, 2016-02-03 at 11:07 +, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> >> When I tried to do so, it no longer seems possible to get the annual
> >> one.
> > Right. I think it hasn't been at least since we migrated to the
> > Wordpress.
> >
> > I remember having had discussions about it, but I don't really remember
> > the arguments exchanged. I can imagine that the complexity of providing
> > a UI for annual payment was considered to be too much.  But the code is
> > here: <https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-web-www/tree/theme/page-frien
> > ds.php>.  Feel free to send patches.
>
> Thanks
> For now replacing M with Y in the form created me an annual
> subscription, I only forgot to change the name so it's called monthly
> :)

Also I forgot to mention, the reason I prefer annual is that I can request
gift matching by my employer which double the amount but requesting 12
times is more annoying than requesting once.
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Re: Preliminary Results - GNOME Board of Directors Elections 2015

2015-06-09 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On 9 June 2015 at 13:13, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, Foundation!

 We're happy to announce the preliminary results for this year's Board
 of Directors
 elections:

 Allan Day
 Andrea Veri
 Christian Hergert
 Cosimo Cecchi
 Ekaterina Gerasimova
 Jeff Fortin Tam
 Shaun McCance

 (details at http://vote.gnome.org/vote/results.php?election_id=23)

Found the correct one: https://vote.gnome.org/results.php?election_id=23

 If you'd like to challenge these results, please send an e-mail to
 membership-committee gnome org  You can challenge them until Tuesday,
 2015-06-17, 23:59 UTC. Please note these results should not be
 considered final until all challenges have been resolved.

 This year we had 273 registered voters, 149 of which sent in valid
 ballots. We encourage everyone to check the list of all votes to
 verify their ballot:

 https://vote.gnome.org/votes.php?election_id=23

 Cheers,
 Fabiana - on behalf of the GNOME Foundation Membership  Elections Committee
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Re: Preliminary Results - GNOME Board of Directors Elections 2015

2015-06-09 Thread Pascal Terjan 
Hi,
the requested URL /vote/results.php was not found on this server.

On 9 June 2015 at 13:13, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, Foundation!

 We're happy to announce the preliminary results for this year's Board
 of Directors
 elections:

 Allan Day
 Andrea Veri
 Christian Hergert
 Cosimo Cecchi
 Ekaterina Gerasimova
 Jeff Fortin Tam
 Shaun McCance

 (details at http://vote.gnome.org/vote/results.php?election_id=23)

 If you'd like to challenge these results, please send an e-mail to
 membership-committee gnome org  You can challenge them until Tuesday,
 2015-06-17, 23:59 UTC. Please note these results should not be
 considered final until all challenges have been resolved.

 This year we had 273 registered voters, 149 of which sent in valid
 ballots. We encourage everyone to check the list of all votes to
 verify their ballot:

 https://vote.gnome.org/votes.php?election_id=23

 Cheers,
 Fabiana - on behalf of the GNOME Foundation Membership  Elections Committee
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Re: foundation application..

2015-02-12 Thread Pascal Terjan 
One thing I thought of would be to change the direction of the process
to be an invitation rather than an application.
If you see someone helping, instead of pushing him to apply you could
fill in the form describing his contributions (and possibly the name
of someone else who can support it) and if accepted he would get an
invitation to join the foundation.

On 12 February 2015 at 10:11, Daniel Mustieles García
daniel.mustie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Sriram,

 Maybe I could help you with this. How do you think we could do it?

 2015-02-11 23:09 GMT+01:00 Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me:

 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me
 wrote:
  On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Alexandre Franke
  alexandre.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Luis Menina liberfo...@freeside.fr
  wrote:
  So yes, I still find it intimidating because it's hard to feel
  legitimate when you're a small contibutor.
 
  And that's part of the problem. This guy calls himself a small
  contributer, which he is not. Sure he's not a maintainer of one of
  our core libraries, or even the leader of one of our teams, but he's
  been sustainably active for quite a long time now.
 
  Yes, I've had other anecdotes where people relate the same thing.  As
  I said, I'm intimidated too when go through it.  Maybe if there are
  interested people we could work on it together?
 

 Who would be interested in working with me on this?  This would be a
 nice easy task.  Perhaps I will ask the Internet as well.

 sri

  sri
 
 
  --
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Re: foundation application..

2015-02-12 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On 12 February 2015 at 13:42, Magdalen Berns m.be...@thismagpie.com wrote:
 One thing I thought of would be to change the direction of the process
 to be an invitation rather than an application.
 If you see someone helping, instead of pushing him to apply you could
 fill in the form describing his contributions (and possibly the name
 of someone else who can support it) and if accepted he would get an
 invitation to join the foundation.


 That seems highly masonic.

I think it would be good in addition to the current process, not
replacing it, for the many people who will never feel they do great
things, even if they do (see Imposter Syndrome).

 The bylaws state the following[1]

 Any contributor to GNOME shall be eligible for member-ship.

 A contributor shall be defined as any individual who has contributed to a
 non-trivial improvement of the GNOME Project, such as code, documentation,
 trans-
 lations, maintenance of project-wide resources, or other non-trivial
 activities which
 benefit the GNOME Project. Large amounts of advocacy or bug reporting may
 qual-
 ify one as a contributor, provided that such contributions are significantly
 above the
 level expected of an ordinary user. Contributions made in the course of
 employment
 will be considered and will be ascribed to the individuals involved, rather
 than accruing
 to all employees of a contributing corporation.



 I suggest we just make the rules much clearer to people on the outreach
 pages by clarifying what non-trivial actually means. GSoC/OPW interns are
 told to make more contributions after their 3 month internship before
 applying. That suggests that the contributions they make over their 3 month
 internship of 40 hours per week are trivial. It's no wonder contributors
 find the process of making a membership application intimidating considering
 that, isn't it? How could a volunteer compete with an someone who is being
 paid to work on GNOME full time (even if it is just for 3 months)?

 [1] http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bylaws.pdf

Giving more examples would clearly help.
I believe the GSoC/OPW is special as they have incentive to contribute
which then finish and it's probably a matter to see if they continue
contributing. It doesn't mean that what they did was non-trivial.

But I don't think a clearer definition will help people who don't feel
they deserve it, especially because we can't be exhaustive so there
will always be people who don't recognize themselves in what is
listed.
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Re: foundation application..

2015-02-12 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On 12 February 2015 at 15:03, Magdalen Berns m.be...@thismagpie.com wrote:

 On 12 February 2015 at 13:42, Magdalen Berns m.be...@thismagpie.com
 wrote:
  One thing I thought of would be to change the direction of the process
  to be an invitation rather than an application.
  If you see someone helping, instead of pushing him to apply you could
  fill in the form describing his contributions (and possibly the name
  of someone else who can support it) and if accepted he would get an
  invitation to join the foundation.
 
 
  That seems highly masonic.

 I think it would be good in addition to the current process, not
 replacing it, for the many people who will never feel they do great
 things, even if they do (see Imposter Syndrome).


 I don't have any problems with people suggesting to contributors that they
 should apply because this would may give a deserving contributor the
 confidence to go for it, but that does not seem to be what you are
 suggesting. What you seem to be suggesting is masonic. Perhaps you could
 clarify what you mean by this nomination system idea, in case I
 misunderstood what you mean in terms of its practical application.

My idea was to have someone else describe your accomplishments and
apply for you.
If the application is accepted we can inform the person that their
application done by other person was successful and they just have
to say if they are accepting to be a member of the foundation.
If it is rejected, I don't think we want to inform them.


  The bylaws state the following[1]
 
  Any contributor to GNOME shall be eligible for member-ship.
 
  A contributor shall be defined as any individual who has contributed
  to a
  non-trivial improvement of the GNOME Project, such as code,
  documentation,
  trans-
  lations, maintenance of project-wide resources, or other non-trivial
  activities which
  benefit the GNOME Project. Large amounts of advocacy or bug reporting
  may
  qual-
  ify one as a contributor, provided that such contributions are
  significantly
  above the
  level expected of an ordinary user. Contributions made in the course of
  employment
  will be considered and will be ascribed to the individuals involved,
  rather
  than accruing
  to all employees of a contributing corporation.
 
 
 
  I suggest we just make the rules much clearer to people on the outreach
  pages by clarifying what non-trivial actually means. GSoC/OPW interns
  are
  told to make more contributions after their 3 month internship before
  applying. That suggests that the contributions they make over their 3
  month
  internship of 40 hours per week are trivial. It's no wonder contributors
  find the process of making a membership application intimidating
  considering
  that, isn't it? How could a volunteer compete with an someone who is
  being
  paid to work on GNOME full time (even if it is just for 3 months)?
 
  [1] http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bylaws.pdf

 Giving more examples would clearly help.
 I believe the GSoC/OPW is special as they have incentive to contribute
 which then finish and it's probably a matter to see if they continue
 contributing. It doesn't mean that what they did was non-trivial.


 In practical terms it does and it certainly is not likely to help anyone's
 imposter syndrome to be told their work is trivial if it isn't, either.
 Let's review the facts:

 Bylaws state that all contributors (i.e. those who shall be defined as any
 individual who has contributed to a non-trivial improvement of the GNOME
 Project) are illegible for membership.
 Bylaws state Contributions made in the course of employment will be
 considered and will be ascribed to the individuals involved, rather than
 accruing to all employees of a contributing corporation.

 Those are the rules. Therefore, if GNOME does not actually believe that all
 interns make trivial contributions, then GNOME effectively contradicts its
 own bylaws in stating that all interns should not apply for foundation
 membership on the strength of their contributions over 3 month period of 40
 hours of work a week (i.e. internship) alone.

Yes I definitely agree this is a problem, If we make an exception of
excluding non-trivial contributions done during an internship, it
should be part of the rules.
But I think this is a different problem unless some people have
interpreted it as needing to do something more important than what
they had done during their internship.
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Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

2014-09-16 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On 16 September 2014 17:44, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi Alexandre;

 On 16 September 2014 17:22, Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 http://www.gnome.org/foundation/reports/ is a bit outdated, but it exists.

 minor correction: it's not really outdated. the foundation publishes
 the reports for the previous fiscal year, as it's required by law.

 We're in September 2014. The latest financial report is for the period
 October 2010 - July 2011. I don't know when the fiscal year ends,

 I see annual reports for every year; they include the financial report
 for the foundation.

The line The Reports are published each quarter, and a specific
annual report is also published at the end of each year. should
probably be changed :)
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Re: Gran Canaria tickets: Now is a good time

2009-01-15 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
 Having said all that, I think housing is a lower priority than flights.
 Don't wait for accommodation options to be announced before booking flights.

Well I won't buy plane ticket if I can't afford the hotel and I guess
I'm not alone :)
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Re: GNOME Job Posting Board

2008-10-16 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The FSF has a jobs page too: fsf.org/resources/jobs.
 Many GNOME-related jobs will qualify for listing there.

Hopefully :)
I would more interested by jobs which would qualify for both than by
jobs whih are about GNOME technologies but not for Free Software, but
some people probably don't mind.

However, I think that some links on this wiki page to other places
were we can find some GTK/GNOME jobs could be nice, in addition to the
actual jobs.
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Re: GNOME dependent on Mono

2007-11-29 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On Nov 29, 2007 11:48 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:03:38PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
  I read http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/05/gnome-mono-yelp/ with
  great concern.

 (...)

  However, making GNOME depend on Mono is running a grave risk, and a
  grave mistake.  If the article accurately describes the situation, I
  think we need to launch a high-priority project to reimplement Yelp in
  some other language.

 RPM (as used in most distributions) is not as flexible as DEB and a
 badly made package will bring in *optional* dependencies as if they were
 required.

Actually it is, even if this is quite recent.
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Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-13 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On 9/13/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Planet GNOME is about the people moreso than the project. We talk about the
 project *all the time*. The reason why I started Planet GNOME (and Planet!)
 was to read about and better understand the *people*. That's why full feeds
 are preferred over GNOME-specific tags, why we have hackergotchis (to put a
 face to a name), and why this idea has been so influential around the FLOSS
 community.

I like reading recipes from time to time, or knowing where people go
on vacation or that they have posted their photos, as long as this is
people I am interested in (meaning people working on some soft I know,
or people I have already met IRL or on IRC).

I am more concerned about big posters, posting almost everyday some
long text and for who I have never seen any GNOME related post, and
who I never read anything from them except their blog on planet
(should I really give names ?).

People complain about the number of posts everyday and the decreasing
interest in reading the planet, I think that this is the main content
issue.
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Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Pascal Terjan 
On 9/12/07, BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It is not true, but it is not laughable. I don't for a second doubt
 that you do not censor planet.gnome.org. But many months ago I emailed
 you and asked to get my blog syndicated. I never got any reply and
 left it as that because I didn't care very strongly about it and my
 blog isn't that good anyway. One could speculate why one doesn't
 receive any reply:

 1. Jeff gets so many mail each day that he forgot about it.
 2. The mail got lost in the spam filter.
 3. Jeff doesn't like you.
 4. Jeff doesn't like your blog.
 5. Jeff doesn't like your politics.
 6. Neither you nor your blog is elite enough.
 7. planet.gnome.org in an old boys club.

 Of those, only 1 and 2 are really plausible. But there is *no way to
 know that*. Which is why you people resort to speculations which is
 why this whole thread started.

 Which is why a transparent process is really really important.
 Requests should be handled through bugzilla because then everyone can
 see that it is all open and all allegations about nepotism is totally
 unfounded.

I agree with you. I asked by email to be added in May. In June someone
asked my why don't you ask to get on planet GNOME ? so I asked
again. I think I asked again by mail since but can't find it...
About one month ago I tried to ask in private on IRC without answer again.

So I am thinking that the answer is either 3,4 or 6...

I would really have preferred something public, with an answer even if
it is your blog does not look enough related to GNOME or Your
English is not good enough or You are not involved enough in GNOME
or whatever...

In my opinion, the issue is not about having control over what get
included, but about tracking the requests.

How many people asked, never got any answer and don't know why ?
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