Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012, ListMember wrote: On 2012-12-22 00:27, Sven Barth wrote: Am 21.12.2012 22:20 schrieb ListMember listmem...@letterboxes.org: Can you (or someone else, of course) think of a better search string to locate it? Go to View Issues, click on the +

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 21 December 2012 18:16:06 Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 21.12.2012 09:23, schrieb Martin Schreiber: On Tuesday 18 December 2012 19:07:47 Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 17.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Hi, Any FPC developer willing to comment on the status of some of these

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 21 December 2012 17:46:26 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: It would be good to keep those facts in mind before ranting. Cutting out a whole lot of crap: as somebody very much on the periphery of the project, I'm disappointed to see sentiments of this tenor being aired in public. First,

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread ListMember
On 2012-12-22 11:48, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Sat, 22 Dec 2012, ListMember wrote: On 2012-12-22 00:27, Sven Barth wrote: Am 21.12.2012 22:20 schrieb ListMember listmem...@letterboxes.org: Can you (or someone else, of course) think of a better search string to locate it?

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/12/12 10:34, Martin Schreiber wrote: Please note that the message has not been posted to the list by me. My apologies Martin. I should have taken your questions and rephrased them in a list form. To save time, I simply obfuscated the names - probably not the best idea. The names where not

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21/12/12 16:46, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Cutting out a whole lot of crap: as somebody very much on the periphery of the project, I'm disappointed to see sentiments of this tenor being aired in public. Mark, much of what happens with the FPC project seems to be done in secrecy, or a

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21/12/12 17:16, Florian Klämpfl wrote: The mission goal of FPC is: develop an open source pascal compiler written in pascal in a community effort. You forgot the last bit and be Delphi compatible! Maybe people should indeed first work on the compiler instead of developing another

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 21/12/12 16:46, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Cutting out a whole lot of crap: as somebody very much on the periphery of the project, I'm disappointed to see sentiments of this tenor being aired in public. Mark, much of what happens with the FPC

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: Cutting out a whole lot of crap: as somebody very much on the periphery of the project, I'm disappointed to see sentiments of this tenor being aired in public. Mark, much of what happens with the FPC project seems to be done in secrecy,

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 22.12.2012 14:01, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 21/12/12 17:16, Florian Klämpfl wrote: The mission goal of FPC is: develop an open source pascal compiler written in pascal in a community effort. You forgot the last bit and be Delphi compatible! IMO this is actually a consequence of

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 22.12.2012 11:23, schrieb Martin Schreiber: I propose to extend and render more precisely the mission goals of FPC and to concentrate the power on the defined goals. And you think people will work on this defined goals instead of maybe completely other projects? Or just fork FPC? In

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Saturday 22 December 2012 19:09:27 Florian Klämpfl wrote: I must say, in MSEide+MSEgui project the things are handled a little bit different. For example I never planned to internationalize MSEide because it complicates things, is a boring task and I did not see a benefit. Now a

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Saturday 22 December 2012 19:09:27 Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 22.12.2012 11:23, schrieb Martin Schreiber: I propose to extend and render more precisely the mission goals of FPC and to concentrate the power on the defined goals. And you think people will work on this defined goals instead

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Sven Barth
On 22.12.2012 20:03, Martin Schreiber wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2012 19:09:27 Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 22.12.2012 11:23, schrieb Martin Schreiber: I propose to extend and render more precisely the mission goals of FPC and to concentrate the power on the defined goals. And you think

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/12/12 16:43, Marco van de Voort wrote: I think you have a wrong idea on what the core list contains. LOL. And how is anybody supposed to know what goes on - it is a PRIVATE mailing list. I don't think direction on unicode (or even general) came up since the last unicode discussions on

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: Well, let me just say that the idea of two RTL's is rather ridiculous too!! It's not different from Delphi, where the introduction of UnicodeString required a renewed RTL, VCL and IDE. Who should do the same for FPC and Lazarus, and tell the users that they either