Re: [fpc-devel] How do I go about volunteering as a "release builder", so that we can get rid of the objectively untrue, misleadingly worded "There is no native compiler available for x86_64 Win64. Yo

2018-11-04 Thread Ralf Quint
On 11/4/2018 7:26 PM, Ben Grasset wrote: I'm not young. You're making all kinds of assumptions here. TP7 /is /generally speaking, irrelevant in the fast majority of cases nowadays. Talking about making assumptions! The overall point is just that I believe it is /highly/ reasonable to suggest

Re: [fpc-devel] How do I go about volunteering as a "release builder", so that we can get rid of the objectively untrue, misleadingly worded "There is no native compiler available for x86_64 Win64. Yo

2018-11-04 Thread Ben Grasset
I accidentally replied to this one via the main thread. It's my most recent message before this. On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 9:19 AM Alexander Grotewohl wrote: > Not to mention the users who pick up FPC and have to port what they've > previously learned. That information is useful even if the code

Re: [fpc-devel] How do I go about volunteering as a "release builder", so that we can get rid of the objectively untrue, misleadingly worded "There is no native compiler available for x86_64 Win64. Yo

2018-11-04 Thread Ben Grasset
I just strongly disagree that there's much merit or reality to the overall concept people keep floating here that FPC's *actual *user base consists largely of a magical non-stop stream of 50+ year olds who have randomly decided out of the blue to "pick up Pascal again" and re-live the whimsical

Re: [fpc-devel] How do I go about volunteering as a "release builder", so that we can get rid of the objectively untrue, misleadingly worded "There is no native compiler available for x86_64 Win64. Yo

2018-11-04 Thread Ben Grasset
I honestly have no idea. It's not an issue I've ever encountered, as I've literally never built Lazarus with a toolchain that wasn't 64 bit. It would seem to be the case though that it is indeed very possible (at some level/point) for it to consume that much memory. It's worth noting I guess that

Re: [fpc-devel] How do I go about volunteering as a "release builder", so that we can get rid of the objectively untrue, misleadingly worded "There is no native compiler available for x86_64 Win64. Yo

2018-11-04 Thread Ben Grasset
It may really truly be the case that you somehow have a codebase that you're still in the process of porting, but in all honesty *just *setting {$mode TP} and nothing else will generally speaking get you 90% of the way there most of the time, if not all the way. FPC in TP mode has been able to

Re: [fpc-devel] How do I go about volunteering as a "release builder", so that we can get rid of the objectively untrue, misleadingly worded "There is no native compiler available for x86_64 Win64. Yo

2018-11-04 Thread Ben Grasset
I'm not young. You're making all kinds of assumptions here. TP7 *is *generally speaking, irrelevant in the fast majority of cases nowadays. FPC is 1000x more advanced in every conceivable way than any version of Turbo Pascal ever was. There is nothing "interesting" about TP from a current

Re: [fpc-devel] Array assignment operator

2018-11-04 Thread Gennady Agranov
On 11/4/2018 5:24 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-devel wrote: Am So., 4. Nov. 2018, 20:36 hat Gennady Agranov mailto:gennadyagra...@gmail.com>> geschrieben: On 11/4/2018 11:24 AM, Sven Barth via fpc-devel wrote: Am So., 4. Nov. 2018, 12:23 hat Schindler Karl-Michael

Re: [fpc-devel] Array assignment operator

2018-11-04 Thread Sven Barth via fpc-devel
Am So., 4. Nov. 2018, 20:36 hat Gennady Agranov geschrieben: > On 11/4/2018 11:24 AM, Sven Barth via fpc-devel wrote: > > Am So., 4. Nov. 2018, 12:23 hat Schindler Karl-Michael < > karl-michael.schind...@web.de> geschrieben: > >> >> >> > Am 04.11.2018 um 12:00 schrieb Ben Grasset : >> > >> >

Re: [fpc-devel] How do I go about volunteering as a "release builder", so that we can get rid of the objectively untrue, misleadingly worded "There is no native compiler available for x86_64 Win64. Yo

2018-11-04 Thread Ralf Quint
On 11/4/2018 4:41 AM, wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: On 11/3/18 7:09 PM, Ben Grasset wrote: (The same could be said about the various other wildly outdated bits of information on the overall site and the fact that it gives now-hugely-irrelevant topics like "porting from TP7" such precedence,

Re: [fpc-devel] Array assignment operator

2018-11-04 Thread Gennady Agranov
On 11/4/2018 11:24 AM, Sven Barth via fpc-devel wrote: Am So., 4. Nov. 2018, 12:23 hat Schindler Karl-Michael mailto:karl-michael.schind...@web.de>> geschrieben: > Am 04.11.2018 um 12:00 schrieb Ben Grasset mailto:operato...@gmail.com>>: > > From: Ben Grasset

Re: [fpc-devel] AVR ATMEGA4808 ATMEGA4809

2018-11-04 Thread Christo Crause
I made a quick modification today and it seems doable to add these devices without much change. Compared the code generated for a basic test between modified FPC and avr-gcc with atmega4808 updated from latest update pack and the binaries seem to match quite well. A bit more effort is required

Re: [fpc-devel] The 15k bounty: Optimizing executable speed for Linux x86 / LLVM

2018-11-04 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 25.10.2018 um 20:13 schrieb Florian Klämpfl: In case somebody wonders: as I started years ago on tls-based threadvars, I decided first to work on this one first and try to bring this code into a commitable state. ___ fpc-devel maillist -

Re: [fpc-devel] Array assignment operator

2018-11-04 Thread Sven Barth via fpc-devel
Am So., 4. Nov. 2018, 12:23 hat Schindler Karl-Michael < karl-michael.schind...@web.de> geschrieben: > > > > Am 04.11.2018 um 12:00 schrieb Ben Grasset : > > > > From: Ben Grasset > > To: FPC-Devel users discussions > > Subject: Re: Array assignment operator > > Message-ID: < >

Re: [fpc-devel] How do I go about volunteering as a "release builder", so that we can get rid of the objectively untrue, misleadingly worded "There is no native compiler available for x86_64 Win64. Yo

2018-11-04 Thread Alexander Grotewohl
Not to mention the users who pick up FPC and have to port what they've previously learned. That information is useful even if the code isn't already written. On 11/4/2018 7:41 AM, wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: On 11/3/18 7:09 PM, Ben Grasset wrote: (The same could be said about the various

Re: [fpc-devel] How do I go about volunteering as a "release builder", so that we can get rid of the objectively untrue, misleadingly worded "There is no native compiler available for x86_64 Win64. Yo

2018-11-04 Thread wkitty42
On 11/3/18 7:09 PM, Ben Grasset wrote: (The same could be said about the various other wildly outdated bits of information on the overall site and the fact that it gives now-hugely-irrelevant topics like "porting from TP7" such precedence, but that's a different issue.) porting from TP/BP 6/7

Re: [fpc-devel] Array assignment operator

2018-11-04 Thread Schindler Karl-Michael
> Am 04.11.2018 um 12:00 schrieb Ben Grasset : > > From: Ben Grasset > To: FPC-Devel users discussions > Subject: Re: Array assignment operator > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:44 PM Gennady Agranov > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Leaving

Re: [fpc-devel] How do I go about volunteering as a "release builder", so that we can get rid of the objectively untrue, misleadingly worded "There is no native compiler available for x86_64 Win64. Yo

2018-11-04 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 04/11/18 00:09, Ben Grasset wrote: s just one example, I've seen more than one instance of people on the Lazarus forums posting threads asking about how they can work around out-of-memory errors while building Lazarus Where does the compiler need more than 1.5GB of VM space while building