directory `/usr/src/fpc/fpcbuild-2.1.4/fpcsrc'
make[1]: *** [build-stamp.sparc-linux] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/fpc/fpcbuild-2.1.4/fpcsrc'
make: *** [fpcsrc/build-stamp.sparc-linux] Error 2
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the unofficial 2.1.4 .deb, or jump straight to a later development version?
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continues here, I'll be back. I /really/ want to get this sorted out.
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Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Tests still running, more later.
OK, I think it's stuck. It's been sitting here for the last few hours:
utils/dotest -c/fpcbuild-2.1.4/fpcsrc/compiler/ppcsparc -e test/tmmx1.pp
Abort: Compiler cpu sparc is not in list i386
utils/dotest -c/fpcbuild-2.1.4/fpcsrc
be thrown on any of this would be very much appreciated.
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Makefile.fpc and they
appear to build on/for linux-sparc but I've not attempted to use them for
anything yet.
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OK, I'll discuss in the Lazarus ML when I get the time. Lazarus appears to
require it for printer handling etc.
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adequately by threads and SIMD which is where things like FORTRAN support for
OpenMP comes in. I don't think that there is a single solution that will
satisfy both camps.
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Mattias Gaertner wrote:
Here is a start:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/OpenMP_support
Thanks, interesting. I'll tack any thoughts I have into that page's discussion.
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threads are probably the way to go having implicit parallelisation
would be a very interesting alternative.
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One thing that would be useful would be a processor-affinity property on the
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be easily retrofitted to existing
programs without any need to get a new API involved.
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slightly perverse to
define fibers in terms of threads rather than the other way round.
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in it, e.g. I've got a system here with CPUs
0, 1 4..15 available.
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a dedicated machine with Woody
and have compiled from scratch.
As a general point Qemu's virtualisation of PC serial ports doesn't handle the
control lines (DTR etc.)- I found a patch which sorted it nicely but again
it's a reason to compile from source.
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Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 01 Sep 2008, at 21:12, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
On SPARC I can build from scratch and tests complete. fpc appears to
be OK, but fp bombs during initialisation leaving the screen in raw
mode. If I redirect stdout to a file I get
An unhandled exception occurred
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
It appears I can't get that far. If I
make clean
make GDB_V603=1 OPT=-O- -g all
I fairly promptly get
..
That's working with 2.2.2 already installed. Unless I hear otherwise
I'll revert to 2.2.0 when I get time and see if I can compile 2.2.2
without error
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Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 05 Sep 2008, at 11:29, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Jonas Maebe wrote:
I've committed a fix in 2.3.1. If all goes well in the testsuite run
tonight, I'll merge it to 2.2.3 over the weekend. I don't know why
this bug didn't cause crashes in the nightly tests I run on
sparc
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Jonas Maebe wrote:
It's been merged to 2.2.3 now. You can either download the source
zipfile from
ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v22/source/fpc.zip, or get
it from svn as described here:
http://www.freepascal.org/develop.var#svn (make sure you use
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 11 Sep 2008, at 15:02, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I've had no success trying to drive fpc interactively across ttys to get
to the point of failure.
Indeed, the tty redirection doesn't work very will in combination with
raw terminal modes.
After experimentation I
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 12 Sep 2008, at 22:28, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I've run the test suite for the compiler with and without
optimisation, so far I don't see any revealing differences in the
output but I might be overlooking something significant due to
inexperience.
You can compare
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 22 Sep 2008, at 19:21, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Referring again to gdbint.pp I see this:
{ 6.5.x }
{$ifdef GDB_V605}
{$endif def GDB_V605}
{ 6.6.x }
{$ifdef GDB_V606}
{$endif def GDB_V605}
{ 6.7.x }
{$ifdef GDB_V607}
{$endif def GDB_V605}
Am I correct in assuming
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
The Debian source package appears to basically be gdb which builds
libgdb as a side-effect. It compiles OK on an ARM but there are errors
when I try to use it as part of the fpc build with GDB_V607=1 (which
seemed like a good starting position).
I'll look around
Jonas Maebe wrote:
This indeed suggests a SPARC-specific problem, as ARM is also quite
alignment-sensitive.
I'm currently setting up an outward-facing SPARC-Linux system. Please
email me if you want an account.
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Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
Looking at 2.2.3 on sparc-linux I see that libc.ppu etc. is no longer
being built, it is however built for i386 and arm and for 2.2.0 and
older. Is this intentional?
To be honest I can't remember why I needed
the point that ARM
is a viable development host as well as a target.
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-compile, either on Debian Etch or on a non-ARM system. Can
somebody point me at the information I need, and tell me explicitly what
target I should be using?
Is there any way I can help by packaging an armel build for download,
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Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
I think this is a fairly succinct indication of why I wasn't able to get
FPC to compile itself prior to compiling Lazarus for Lenny.
Well, actually no, did you try to bootstrap FPC itself? Then the program
generated
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with the armel 4 abi system.
OK, I think I'm with that. Any pointers to documentation would be
appreciated, I'm still at the stage of finding my way around.
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which will knock me
back a couple of days but I'll get back onto it as soon as I am able.
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more substantial over the next day or so.
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What's the current situation with armel? I've got the armel-generating
2.3.1 (I think from Florian) but I can't complete a make all- it barfs
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Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 12 Sep 2009, at 18:58, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
What's the current situation with armel?
I think the latest svn should work fine (both trunk and fixes_2_4).
I've got the armel-generating 2.3.1 (I think from Florian) but I can't
complete a make all- it barfs during
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 13 Sep 2009, at 08:57, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
ppcarm -iD shows 2008/11/29. I've tried doing things like using ppc1
or ppc2 built part-way through the cycle and it hasn't appeared to
change toe problem.
On trunk make NOGDB=1 OPT=-O- -gl all eventually gets me
Just in case it's useful to anybody in the future, I note that on Debian
Lenny (armel) compiling with
make NOGDB=1 OPT=-O- -gl NOWPOCYCLE=1 all
works but a make install might not copy ppcarm over- that might have to
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=
I've got about as far as I can on these two problems, and any help would
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Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 05 Oct 2009, at 15:27, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
The fp IDE can drive libgdb to do straightforward debugging on x86 and
ARM, there might be failures with complex stuff that I've not been
able to test. Those two platforms are no problem, the problems are on
PowerPC
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 06 Oct 2009, at 16:38, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Do you agree that the PowerPC problem is probably a broken Debian
library somewhere? It's not as though we actually need XML for
anything...
Sorry, I really don't know. I'm not involved in the IDE at all, let
alone
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Linking testgdb
/usr/local/lib/fpc/2.2.4/units/powerpc-linux/gdbint/gdbint.o: In function
`GDBINT_INITLIBGDB':
gdbint.pp:(.text+0x1a60): undefined reference
since the problems still seem to be
specific to either PPC or Debian.
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great; else (if it's
not), great again ;-)
But the more people who build up the skills to understand the compiler's
internals the better :-)
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structures had a uniform
format terminated by an end with neither a dangling-else problem nor
ambiguities depending on whether somebody used ; as a separator or a
terminator could be attractive.
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projects significant damage.
It might well be useful as an optional feature, but under no
circumstances enabled by default.
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added extdebug in an attempt to enable -an for listings although so
far I don't think it's working (when looked at on other platforms)- is
this the right way of doing it?
Can anybody point me at a fix, or suggest a specific version I should be
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Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Note that the code is correct: it's output the Hello World message
even though subsequently the debugger is confused.
d48656c = #13'Hel'. gdb on SPARC is trying to dereference the string
itself. I've fixed this in r13813 in trunk.
0d48. Well spotted :-) OK, I'll
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 01 Mar 2010, at 15:10, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I'm still getting a bus or alignment error in the fp IDE when driving gdb but
I'm reasonably optimistic that I'll be able to find that now. PowerPC is fine
so it's probably not something like an endianness issue.
A bus
Henry Vermaak wrote:
On 25 February 2010 21:22, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
I'm having another of my periodic attempts at getting various systems
up-to-date here, and I wonder if I could ask for help with build problems.
First machine is an ARM-based Linksys
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 01 Mar 2010, at 15:10, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I'm still getting a bus or alignment error in the fp IDE when driving
gdb but I'm reasonably optimistic that I'll be able to find that now.
PowerPC is fine so it's probably not something like
to
--version and --help would be useful since this usage is so common these
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and trouble shooting.
Are the numbers returned by SysInfo() similar to those returned by
Linux's 'free' program and 'top'? Are you taking into account that your
program, and in particular the Lazarus IDE, are going to be reducing the
amount of free memory significantly?
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Alexander Klenin wrote:
inc and dec work fine as far as I know for over a decade.
Hm, just re-checked -- no, they do not.
OK on scalars I believe but not on object properties.
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the startup warning when
FP finds itself running on Debian? From the description the problem will
only affect Debian Sarge or older, and when I tried a year or so ago
it appeared that a current FP will not build for a distro of that age
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as it
stands, but if I use OPT=-CfSOFT I can rebuild it or build a 2.4.0 that
appears to work.
Is what I am doing reasonable, or should I- as an example- be using
2.4.0 to rebuild itself with -CaEABI before trying to go any further?
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Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 20 Aug 2010, at 17:47, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Is what I am doing reasonable, or should I- as an example- be using 2.4.0 to
rebuild itself with -CaEABI before trying to go any further?
It's best to compile 2.4.0 with -dFPC_ARMEL (no need to use -CaEABI) and use
recently.
Is my recollection correct that somebody's working on the MIPS port?
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Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 20 Aug 2010, at 22:38, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
What should I be doing here- using both -Cf and -d?
Yes, that should solve the problem. For the resulting EABI compiler, -Cfsoft
will be the default.
Thanks Jonas, work continues and I'll report back.
Is there a way
, and reference to an
fpc-mips project on Sourceforge.
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)
Thanks Jonas, noted.
Build still running- significant memory overcommit. I'll report back
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Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 20 Aug 2010, at 22:38, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
What should I be doing here- using both -Cf and -d?
Yes, that should solve the problem. For the resulting EABI compiler, -Cfsoft
will be the default.
I can confirm that I can build FPC 2.4.0 to run under Debian Lenny
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I can confirm that I can build FPC 2.4.0 to run under Debian Lenny on
an ARM-based system (Cisco/Linksys NSLU2 Slug) using
make 'NOGDB=1' 'OPT=-dFPC_ARMEL -CfSOFT' all
This appears to be OK to the extent that it can compile Lazarus
0.9.28.3, although my initial
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 05 Oct 2010, at 10:05, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
When running 2.4.0 on an ARM system (Debian v5 Lenny, armel) with
limited memory (32Mb RAM + 768Mb swap) and using it to compile a large
project (Lazarus 0.9.28.2) I'm seeing intermittent failures which go
away if the make
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Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 05 Oct 2010, at 10:05, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
When running 2.4.0 on an ARM system (Debian v5 Lenny, armel) with
limited memory (32Mb RAM + 768Mb swap) and using it to compile a large
project (Lazarus 0.9.28.2) I'm seeing intermittent failures which go
away if the make
I've got is that when I tried to build using 2.2 it went
part way through and then barfed because of an out parameter. Could
the compiler version be checked right at the start of the build?
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extent the build will recover if restarted,
I think I remember a Linux kernel build failing in some cases on large
systems but sorting itself out if the make command was rerun.
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a recent fix or extension? I had to go briefly onto 2.5.1 for ARM and
found that it refused to compile Lazarus- if I recall correctly there
was a conditional in the source where anything that wasn't 2.4 was
assumed to be 2.2 or older.
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than expecting
them to listen attentively to you.
Written as an exasperated non-developer,
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Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
But if you're considering making it public wouldn't it be better to use the
official 2.4.2 release, at least until somebody really had to have a
recent fix or extension
or VNC) small.
I've got a problem running lazarus (i.e. as distinct from lazbuild) on
SPARC and ARM, if I can pin it down I'll raise it elsewhere.
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Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
I had to go briefly onto 2.5.1 for ARM and found
that it refused to compile Lazarus- if I recall correctly there was a
conditional in the source where anything that wasn't 2.4 was assumed to be
2.2 or older.
You should
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
I'm currently rereading the Build FAQ- slowly and carefully. Is it still the
case that native CE is under-exercised?
What do you mean by native CE?
Running
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
I'm currently rereading the Build FAQ- slowly and carefully. Is it still the
case that native CE is under-exercised? I've got a board here- basically an
ARM-based PC
Henry Vermaak wrote:
On 6 December 2010 10:05, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Henry Vermaak wrote:
Just interested, how would you do this? Does win ce have an ssh server?
Unless I'm badly missing the point: these boards have full video etc. so can
run programs
) or
netpipes (faucet and hose) which will not, certainly by default, be
fiddling with line-ends or aggregating bytes for efficiency.
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is that /home/felipe/Programas/fpctrunk/binutils/as
works normally (it is a copy of arm-linux-as), I just checked o.O
Have you checked with the -vt option to see what the compiler is trying
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Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Have you checked with the -vt option to see what the compiler is trying to
load?
Thanks, indeed, it seams that something changed in the code to search
binary as an
NE-format .exe with entry points exported by name, then use a final
builder/binder stage (loosely patterned after Intel's) that set up all
vectors etc.
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test0; begin end.) the executable requires the oleaut32 DLL
which is not implemented.
Is there an easy way to break this requirement, or do I need to hack and
rebuild FPC? If the latter is feasible, could somebody give me a hint
where to start?
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with.
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know whether
Sanos really is useful for anything, but I think it has potential as an
upgrade for DOS+Go32. After all, if somebody wants a unix-style OS
there's plenty of cut-down Linuxes.
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, LocalFree and so on and whilst
I've not gone hunting yet I suspect that they're fundamental to the
RTL's operation.
So I might tinker a bit more, but it's definitely not going to be trivial.
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here and there though).
Are you saying that you have identified these and inserted about 700
comments or conditional-compilation directives manually? That's a
respectable amount of work...
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up a sound base of experience actually /using/ it
first. The community has put up with me for six years or so, I still
consider myself an inexperienced beginner, and I'd be very reluctant to
make any suggestion that the developers had overlooked something
significant.
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Joerg Schuelke wrote:
Am Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:09:59 +0200
schrieb Joerg Schuelke joerg.schue...@gmx.de:
No further explanation needed. Nested comments do it.
I did not know that {$define mx:= ... (*$%LINE%*)} works.
So that's why (*$define mx:= ... doesn't work :-)
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that (maybe we should start asking
reporters to do that, like the Lazarus team), so in that case we have to
do it.
Is there a polite way for a reporter who's submitted a fix to ping
management when the bug's not been assigned to anybody?
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Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 09 May 2011, at 12:54, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Is there a polite way for a reporter who's submitted a fix to ping
management when the bug's not been assigned to anybody?
You can always ask about it here, or add a ping comment to the bug
(the latter will put it back
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