[fpc-devel] Building 2.1.4 for SPARC/Linux

2007-07-04 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
directory `/usr/src/fpc/fpcbuild-2.1.4/fpcsrc' make[1]: *** [build-stamp.sparc-linux] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/fpc/fpcbuild-2.1.4/fpcsrc' make: *** [fpcsrc/build-stamp.sparc-linux] Error 2 Anybody got any suggestions please? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

Re: [fpc-devel] Building 2.1.4 for SPARC/Linux

2007-07-04 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
the unofficial 2.1.4 .deb, or jump straight to a later development version? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org

[fpc-devel] Running test suite for 2.1.4 on linux/sparc

2007-07-16 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
:-/ -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Running test suite for 2.1.4 on linux/sparc

2007-07-16 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
continues here, I'll be back. I /really/ want to get this sorted out. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-devel] Running test suite for 2.1.4 on linux/sparc

2007-07-16 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Running test suite for 2.1.4 on linux/sparc

2007-07-16 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Tests still running, more later. OK, I think it's stuck. It's been sitting here for the last few hours: utils/dotest -c/fpcbuild-2.1.4/fpcsrc/compiler/ppcsparc -e test/tmmx1.pp Abort: Compiler cpu sparc is not in list i386 utils/dotest -c/fpcbuild-2.1.4/fpcsrc

[fpc-devel] FPC on SPARC using both Linux and Solaris

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
be thrown on any of this would be very much appreciated. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http

[fpc-devel] Missing files for 2.2.0 on linux-sparc

2007-10-20 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Makefile.fpc and they appear to build on/for linux-sparc but I've not attempted to use them for anything yet. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc

Re: [fpc-devel] Missing files for 2.2.0 on linux-sparc

2007-10-21 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
- fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel OK, I'll discuss in the Lazarus ML when I get the time. Lazarus appears to require it for printer handling etc. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's

[fpc-devel] Off topic: bounce messages etc.

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
about that. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc

Re: [fpc-devel] Parallel Computing

2007-12-03 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
adequately by threads and SIMD which is where things like FORTRAN support for OpenMP comes in. I don't think that there is a single solution that will satisfy both camps. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues

Re: [fpc-devel] Parallel Computing

2007-12-04 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
available processors. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [fpc-devel] Parallel Computing

2007-12-07 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mattias Gaertner wrote: Here is a start: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/OpenMP_support Thanks, interesting. I'll tack any thoughts I have into that page's discussion. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers

Re: [fpc-devel] Parallel Computing

2007-12-10 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Parallel Computing

2007-12-11 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
threads are probably the way to go having implicit parallelisation would be a very interesting alternative. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc

Re: [fpc-devel] Light weight threads for FPC

2007-12-14 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
starting a pool of threads per generation. One thing that would be useful would be a processor-affinity property on the basic TThread. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues

Re: [fpc-devel] Light weight threads for FPC

2007-12-14 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
be easily retrofitted to existing programs without any need to get a new API involved. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Light weight threads for FPC

2007-12-17 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
slightly perverse to define fibers in terms of threads rather than the other way round. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Light weight threads for FPC

2007-12-17 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
in it, e.g. I've got a system here with CPUs 0, 1 4..15 available. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-devel] QEMU for 64-bit FPC testing?

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
a dedicated machine with Woody and have compiled from scratch. As a general point Qemu's virtualisation of PC serial ports doesn't handle the control lines (DTR etc.)- I found a patch which sorted it nicely but again it's a reason to compile from source. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl

[fpc-devel] FPC 2.2.2 on Linux/SPARC

2008-09-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
in the past with 2.2.0, so I think this is a fairly new one. My apologies that I've not been more active testing. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.2.2 on Linux/SPARC

2008-09-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 01 Sep 2008, at 21:12, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: On SPARC I can build from scratch and tests complete. fpc appears to be OK, but fp bombs during initialisation leaving the screen in raw mode. If I redirect stdout to a file I get An unhandled exception occurred

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.2.2 on Linux/SPARC

2008-09-03 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: It appears I can't get that far. If I make clean make GDB_V603=1 OPT=-O- -g all I fairly promptly get .. That's working with 2.2.2 already installed. Unless I hear otherwise I'll revert to 2.2.0 when I get time and see if I can compile 2.2.2 without error

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.2.2 on Linux/SPARC

2008-09-05 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
of thing. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.2.2 on Linux/SPARC

2008-09-09 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 05 Sep 2008, at 11:29, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Jonas Maebe wrote: I've committed a fix in 2.3.1. If all goes well in the testsuite run tonight, I'll merge it to 2.2.3 over the weekend. I don't know why this bug didn't cause crashes in the nightly tests I run on sparc

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.2.2 on Linux/SPARC

2008-09-11 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Jonas Maebe wrote: It's been merged to 2.2.3 now. You can either download the source zipfile from ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v22/source/fpc.zip, or get it from svn as described here: http://www.freepascal.org/develop.var#svn (make sure you use

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.2.2 on Linux/SPARC

2008-09-12 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 11 Sep 2008, at 15:02, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I've had no success trying to drive fpc interactively across ttys to get to the point of failure. Indeed, the tty redirection doesn't work very will in combination with raw terminal modes. After experimentation I

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.2.2 on Linux/SPARC

2008-09-15 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 12 Sep 2008, at 22:28, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I've run the test suite for the compiler with and without optimisation, so far I don't see any revealing differences in the output but I might be overlooking something significant due to inexperience. You can compare

Re: [fpc-devel] libgdb: preferred version and whence?

2008-09-22 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 22 Sep 2008, at 19:21, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Referring again to gdbint.pp I see this: { 6.5.x } {$ifdef GDB_V605} {$endif def GDB_V605} { 6.6.x } {$ifdef GDB_V606} {$endif def GDB_V605} { 6.7.x } {$ifdef GDB_V607} {$endif def GDB_V605} Am I correct in assuming

Re: [fpc-devel] libgdb: preferred version and whence?

2008-09-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: The Debian source package appears to basically be gdb which builds libgdb as a side-effect. It compiles OK on an ARM but there are errors when I try to use it as part of the fpc build with GDB_V607=1 (which seemed like a good starting position). I'll look around

Re: [fpc-devel] libgdb: preferred version and whence?

2008-09-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: This indeed suggests a SPARC-specific problem, as ARM is also quite alignment-sensitive. I'm currently setting up an outward-facing SPARC-Linux system. Please email me if you want an account. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above

[fpc-devel] libc on various platforms

2008-11-23 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
have been something to do with Lazarus. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http

Re: [fpc-devel] libc on various platforms

2008-12-02 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said: Looking at 2.2.3 on sparc-linux I see that libc.ppu etc. is no longer being built, it is however built for i386 and arm and for 2.2.0 and older. Is this intentional? To be honest I can't remember why I needed

Re: [fpc-devel] FreePascal on ARM Linux ,SoftFloat and EABI issues

2008-12-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
the point that ARM is a viable development host as well as a target. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel

[fpc-devel] FPC on ARM, Debian Lenny

2008-12-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
-compile, either on Debian Etch or on a non-ARM system. Can somebody point me at the information I need, and tell me explicitly what target I should be using? Is there any way I can help by packaging an armel build for download, ditto for v2.2.3 for SPARC? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC on ARM, Debian Lenny

2008-12-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said: I think this is a fairly succinct indication of why I wasn't able to get FPC to compile itself prior to compiling Lazarus for Lenny. Well, actually no, did you try to bootstrap FPC itself? Then the program generated

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC on ARM, Debian Lenny

2008-12-14 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
. I'll get back onto this later. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC on ARM, Debian Lenny

2008-12-14 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
with the armel 4 abi system. OK, I think I'm with that. Any pointers to documentation would be appreciated, I'm still at the stage of finding my way around. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC on ARM, Debian Lenny

2008-12-14 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
which will knock me back a couple of days but I'll get back onto it as soon as I am able. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc

[fpc-devel] 2.2.4rc1 on sparc/linux

2009-02-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
more substantial over the next day or so. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http

[fpc-devel] Armel for Debian Lenny

2009-09-12 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
What's the current situation with armel? I've got the armel-generating 2.3.1 (I think from Florian) but I can't complete a make all- it barfs during cycle 2. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues

Re: [fpc-devel] Armel for Debian Lenny

2009-09-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 12 Sep 2009, at 18:58, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: What's the current situation with armel? I think the latest svn should work fine (both trunk and fixes_2_4). I've got the armel-generating 2.3.1 (I think from Florian) but I can't complete a make all- it barfs during

Re: [fpc-devel] Armel for Debian Lenny

2009-09-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 13 Sep 2009, at 08:57, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: ppcarm -iD shows 2008/11/29. I've tried doing things like using ppc1 or ppc2 built part-way through the cycle and it hasn't appeared to change toe problem. On trunk make NOGDB=1 OPT=-O- -gl all eventually gets me

Re: [fpc-devel] Armel for Debian Lenny

2009-09-15 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Just in case it's useful to anybody in the future, I note that on Debian Lenny (armel) compiling with make NOGDB=1 OPT=-O- -gl NOWPOCYCLE=1 all works but a make install might not copy ppcarm over- that might have to be done manually. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

[fpc-devel] fp IDE with libgdb

2009-10-05 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
. = I've got about as far as I can on these two problems, and any help would be very much appreciated. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] fp IDE with libgdb

2009-10-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 05 Oct 2009, at 15:27, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: The fp IDE can drive libgdb to do straightforward debugging on x86 and ARM, there might be failures with complex stuff that I've not been able to test. Those two platforms are no problem, the problems are on PowerPC

Re: [fpc-devel] fp IDE with libgdb

2009-10-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 06 Oct 2009, at 16:38, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Do you agree that the PowerPC problem is probably a broken Debian library somewhere? It's not as though we actually need XML for anything... Sorry, I really don't know. I'm not involved in the IDE at all, let alone

Re: [fpc-devel] fp IDE with libgdb

2009-10-07 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: Linking testgdb /usr/local/lib/fpc/2.2.4/units/powerpc-linux/gdbint/gdbint.o: In function `GDBINT_INITLIBGDB': gdbint.pp:(.text+0x1a60): undefined reference

Re: [fpc-devel] fp IDE with libgdb

2009-10-11 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
since the problems still seem to be specific to either PPC or Debian. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Semicolon before else

2010-01-26 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
great; else (if it's not), great again ;-) But the more people who build up the skills to understand the compiler's internals the better :-) -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues

Re: [fpc-devel] Semicolon before else

2010-01-26 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
structures had a uniform format terminated by an end with neither a dangling-else problem nor ambiguities depending on whether somebody used ; as a separator or a terminator could be attractive. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those

Re: [fpc-devel] Semicolon before else

2010-01-29 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
projects significant damage. It might well be useful as an optional feature, but under no circumstances enabled by default. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues

Re: [fpc-devel] Semicolon before else

2010-01-29 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
rather than half way down? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman

[fpc-devel] Native compilers for non-x86

2010-02-25 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
added extdebug in an attempt to enable -an for listings although so far I don't think it's working (when looked at on other platforms)- is this the right way of doing it? Can anybody point me at a fix, or suggest a specific version I should be using? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl

Re: [fpc-devel] fp IDE with libgdb

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Note that the code is correct: it's output the Hello World message even though subsequently the debugger is confused. d48656c = #13'Hel'. gdb on SPARC is trying to dereference the string itself. I've fixed this in r13813 in trunk. 0d48. Well spotted :-) OK, I'll

Re: [fpc-devel] fp IDE with libgdb

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 01 Mar 2010, at 15:10, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I'm still getting a bus or alignment error in the fp IDE when driving gdb but I'm reasonably optimistic that I'll be able to find that now. PowerPC is fine so it's probably not something like an endianness issue. A bus

Re: [fpc-devel] Native compilers for non-x86

2010-03-02 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Henry Vermaak wrote: On 25 February 2010 21:22, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: I'm having another of my periodic attempts at getting various systems up-to-date here, and I wonder if I could ask for help with build problems. First machine is an ARM-based Linksys

Re: [fpc-devel] fp IDE with libgdb

2010-03-07 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Jonas Maebe wrote: On 01 Mar 2010, at 15:10, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I'm still getting a bus or alignment error in the fp IDE when driving gdb but I'm reasonably optimistic that I'll be able to find that now. PowerPC is fine so it's probably not something like

Re: [fpc-devel] Missing command line parameters in Linux FPC

2010-03-17 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
to --version and --help would be useful since this usage is so common these days. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Linux.SysInfo Problem

2010-03-19 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
and trouble shooting. Are the numbers returned by SysInfo() similar to those returned by Linux's 'free' program and 'top'? Are you taking into account that your program, and in particular the Lazarus IDE, are going to be reducing the amount of free memory significantly? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl

Re: [fpc-devel] Proposal: Multiple assignments

2010-08-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
mutilation of Pascal's underlying syntax. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-devel] Some proposals

2010-08-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
to spoil things for everybody. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman

Re: [fpc-devel] Proposal: Enhanced replacement for assignment operators

2010-08-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Alexander Klenin wrote: inc and dec work fine as far as I know for over a decade. Hm, just re-checked -- no, they do not. OK on scalars I believe but not on object properties. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his

Re: [fpc-devel] Proposal: Multiple assignments

2010-08-07 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

[fpc-devel] GPM vs Debian warning messages

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
the startup warning when FP finds itself running on Debian? From the description the problem will only affect Debian Sarge or older, and when I tried a year or so ago it appeared that a current FP will not build for a distro of that age due to other library incompatibilities. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd

[fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
as it stands, but if I use OPT=-CfSOFT I can rebuild it or build a 2.4.0 that appears to work. Is what I am doing reasonable, or should I- as an example- be using 2.4.0 to rebuild itself with -CaEABI before trying to go any further? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

Re: [fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 20 Aug 2010, at 17:47, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Is what I am doing reasonable, or should I- as an example- be using 2.4.0 to rebuild itself with -CaEABI before trying to go any further? It's best to compile 2.4.0 with -dFPC_ARMEL (no need to use -CaEABI) and use

Re: [fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
recently. Is my recollection correct that somebody's working on the MIPS port? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 20 Aug 2010, at 22:38, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: What should I be doing here- using both -Cf and -d? Yes, that should solve the problem. For the resulting EABI compiler, -Cfsoft will be the default. Thanks Jonas, work continues and I'll report back. Is there a way

Re: [fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-08-21 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
, and reference to an fpc-mips project on Sourceforge. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http

Re: [fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-08-22 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
) Thanks Jonas, noted. Build still running- significant memory overcommit. I'll report back when done. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-08-23 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 20 Aug 2010, at 22:38, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: What should I be doing here- using both -Cf and -d? Yes, that should solve the problem. For the resulting EABI compiler, -Cfsoft will be the default. I can confirm that I can build FPC 2.4.0 to run under Debian Lenny

Re: [fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-10-05 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I can confirm that I can build FPC 2.4.0 to run under Debian Lenny on an ARM-based system (Cisco/Linksys NSLU2 Slug) using make 'NOGDB=1' 'OPT=-dFPC_ARMEL -CfSOFT' all This appears to be OK to the extent that it can compile Lazarus 0.9.28.3, although my initial

Re: [fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-10-05 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 05 Oct 2010, at 10:05, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: When running 2.4.0 on an ARM system (Debian v5 Lenny, armel) with limited memory (32Mb RAM + 768Mb swap) and using it to compile a large project (Lazarus 0.9.28.2) I'm seeing intermittent failures which go away if the make

Re: [fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-10-05 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
report back presently. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [fpc-devel] Building and running FPC natively on ARM under Debian Lenny

2010-10-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 05 Oct 2010, at 10:05, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: When running 2.4.0 on an ARM system (Debian v5 Lenny, armel) with limited memory (32Mb RAM + 768Mb swap) and using it to compile a large project (Lazarus 0.9.28.2) I'm seeing intermittent failures which go away if the make

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.4.2 RC1 available

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
I've got is that when I tried to build using 2.2 it went part way through and then barfed because of an out parameter. Could the compiler version be checked right at the start of the build? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC 2.4.2 RC1 available

2010-10-22 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
extent the build will recover if restarted, I think I remember a Linux kernel build failing in some cases on large systems but sorting itself out if the make command was rerun. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for Linux-ARM

2010-12-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
a recent fix or extension? I had to go briefly onto 2.5.1 for ARM and found that it refused to compile Lazarus- if I recall correctly there was a conditional in the source where anything that wasn't 2.4 was assumed to be 2.2 or older. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions

[fpc-devel] Pascal for scientific computation

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
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Re: [fpc-devel] Console IO revisited

2010-12-03 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
than expecting them to listen attentively to you. Written as an exasperated non-developer, -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for Linux-ARM

2010-12-05 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: But if you're considering making it public wouldn't it be better to use the official 2.4.2 release, at least until somebody really had to have a recent fix or extension

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for Linux-ARM

2010-12-05 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
or VNC) small. I've got a problem running lazarus (i.e. as distinct from lazbuild) on SPARC and ARM, if I can pin it down I'll raise it elsewhere. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for Linux-ARM

2010-12-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said: I had to go briefly onto 2.5.1 for ARM and found that it refused to compile Lazarus- if I recall correctly there was a conditional in the source where anything that wasn't 2.4 was assumed to be 2.2 or older. You should

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for Linux-ARM

2010-12-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: I'm currently rereading the Build FAQ- slowly and carefully. Is it still the case that native CE is under-exercised? What do you mean by native CE? Running

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for Linux-ARM

2010-12-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: I'm currently rereading the Build FAQ- slowly and carefully. Is it still the case that native CE is under-exercised? I've got a board here- basically an ARM-based PC

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for Linux-ARM

2010-12-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Henry Vermaak wrote: On 6 December 2010 10:05, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: Henry Vermaak wrote: Just interested, how would you do this? Does win ce have an ssh server? Unless I'm badly missing the point: these boards have full video etc. so can run programs

Re: [fpc-devel] Linux Signals

2011-01-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
) or netpipes (faucet and hose) which will not, certainly by default, be fiddling with line-ends or aggregating bytes for efficiency. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for Linux-ARM

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
is that /home/felipe/Programas/fpctrunk/binutils/as works normally (it is a copy of arm-linux-as), I just checked o.O Have you checked with the -vt option to see what the compiler is trying to load? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for Linux-ARM

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: Have you checked with the -vt option to see what the compiler is trying to load? Thanks, indeed, it seams that something changed in the code to search

Re: [fpc-devel] Interrupt vector table generation

2011-03-07 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
binary as an NE-format .exe with entry points exported by name, then use a final builder/binder stage (loosely patterned after Intel's) that set up all vectors etc. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers

[fpc-devel] FPC for minimal Win-32

2011-03-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
test0; begin end.) the executable requires the oleaut32 DLL which is not implemented. Is there an easy way to break this requirement, or do I need to hack and rebuild FPC? If the latter is feasible, could somebody give me a hint where to start? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for minimal Win-32

2011-03-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
with. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for Sanos (a minimal Win-32)

2011-03-25 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
know whether Sanos really is useful for anything, but I think it has potential as an upgrade for DOS+Go32. After all, if somebody wants a unix-style OS there's plenty of cut-down Linuxes. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for minimal Win-32

2011-03-25 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
, LocalFree and so on and whilst I've not gone hunting yet I suspect that they're fundamental to the RTL's operation. So I might tinker a bit more, but it's definitely not going to be trivial. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his

Re: [fpc-devel] Announcement: Free Pascal Compiler Delphi XE PortProject

2011-04-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
here and there though). Are you saying that you have identified these and inserted about 700 comments or conditional-compilation directives manually? That's a respectable amount of work... -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those

Re: [fpc-devel] Announcement: Free Pascal Compiler Delphi XEPortProject

2011-04-14 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
up a sound base of experience actually /using/ it first. The community has put up with me for six years or so, I still consider myself an inexperienced beginner, and I'd be very reluctant to make any suggestion that the developers had overlooked something significant. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd

Re: [fpc-devel] __LINE__ and __FILE__ macros

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Joerg Schuelke wrote: Am Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:09:59 +0200 schrieb Joerg Schuelke joerg.schue...@gmx.de: No further explanation needed. Nested comments do it. I did not know that {$define mx:= ... (*$%LINE%*)} works. So that's why (*$define mx:= ... doesn't work :-) -- Mark Morgan Lloyd

Re: [fpc-devel] Closing bug reports or not ?

2011-05-09 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
that (maybe we should start asking reporters to do that, like the Lazarus team), so in that case we have to do it. Is there a polite way for a reporter who's submitted a fix to ping management when the bug's not been assigned to anybody? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

Re: [fpc-devel] Closing bug reports or not ?

2011-05-10 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Jonas Maebe wrote: On 09 May 2011, at 12:54, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Is there a polite way for a reporter who's submitted a fix to ping management when the bug's not been assigned to anybody? You can always ask about it here, or add a ping comment to the bug (the latter will put it back

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