On 2/24/2010 2:48 AM, Matt Emson wrote:
I think an interjection at this point is required - all of this is
down to personal experience, preference and style. It is what you are
used to. Having done 10+ years of Pascal, yes this is very alien.
Having done 5+ years of C# and C based languages,
Hi!
Am Samstag, den 20.02.2010, 19:01 +0100 schrieb Jürgen Hestermann:
y := case Other of
bla : 'hello';
foo : 'bye';
baz : 'adius';
end;
What do you gain with this?
Doesn't look much different to
case Other of
bla : y := 'hello';
foo :
You are looking at the wrong example! Clearly, for variable assignment
you don't gain anything. But for a function argument you do!
Realy?
WriteLn('The value is ',(if X then 'true' else 'false'),
' at the moment.');
Well, *this* can be done much easier ;-):
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On 24 Feb 2010, at 06:10, Jürgen Hestermann
juergen.hesterm...@gmx.de wrote:
Well, *this* can be done much easier ;-): snip
I think an interjection at this point is required - all of this is
down to personal experience, preference and style. It is what you are
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On 21 Feb 2010, at 19:37, JoshyFun joshy...@gmail.com wrote:
z := iff(a=b,1,2);
But to me it looks awful and a bit of c-ism
No, that is a VB-ism. A C-ism would be:
z = (a==b ? 1 : 2);
Which I fo tend to use myself in c# as it is a lot more convenient in
some cases.
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Marco van de Voort wrote:
It also proves that such solution external to the language is possible. That
weakens the case for a language feature
My point exactly! The language doesn't need such a feature because your
editor of choice should be able to do that,
Marco van de Voort wrote:
IMHO Prism is not even Delphi. Just recycling of the brand.
Laying cards on the proverbial table, I don't think it was ever intended
to be Delphi. RemObjects developed the compiler completely outside of
Delphi for a number of years before the technology was
The syntax that Prism uses is a lot cleaner in many respects - especially
removing the procedure/function conundrum and using instead method.
However, in other ways it is horrible and so I can also see why it is not
something worth discussing further.
Matt,
I am no Prism fan (I prefer native
On 22 Feb 2010, at 14:35, Anthony Walter wrote:
The syntax that Prism uses is a lot cleaner in many respects -
especially
removing the procedure/function conundrum and using instead
method.
However, in other ways it is horrible and so I can also see why it
is not
something worth
Jonas Maebe wrote:
Maybe this discussion could be moved to the fpc-other list? It's not
really directly applicable to FPC anymore.
Indeed, which is why I said [..] I can also see why it is not something
worth discussing further. I guess if someone was committing to
developing the compiler
In our previous episode, Matt Emson said:
It also proves that such solution external to the language is possible.
That
weakens the case for a language feature
My point exactly! The language doesn't need such a feature because your
editor of choice should be able to do that,
In our previous episode, Matt Emson said:
Marco van de Voort wrote:
IMHO Prism is not even Delphi. Just recycling of the brand.
Laying cards on the proverbial table, I don't think it was ever intended
to be Delphi. RemObjects developed the compiler completely outside of
Delphi for a
On Sat 20 Feb 2010, Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
y := case Other of
bla : 'hello';
foo : 'bye';
baz : 'adius';
end;
What do you gain with this?
Doesn't look much different to
case Other of
bla : y := 'hello';
foo : y := 'bye';
baz : y :=
y := case Other of
bla : 'hello';
foo : 'bye';
baz : 'adius';
end;
What do you gain with this?
Doesn't look much different to
case Other of
bla : y := 'hello';
foo : y := 'bye';
baz : y := 'adius';
ik wrote:
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 20:01, Jürgen Hestermann
juergen.hesterm...@gmx.de mailto:juergen.hesterm...@gmx.de wrote:
y := case Other of
bla : 'hello';
foo : 'bye';
baz : 'adius';
end;
What do you
Does this innovation makes case a function?
procedure SomeProc(const v: string);
SomeProc ( case Other of
a: 'a';
b: 'b';
end; );
Imho, this reduces the code readability.
thanks,
dmitry
In our previous episode, dmitry boyarintsev said:
Does this innovation makes case a function?
I'd rather say an expression.
procedure SomeProc(const v: string);
SomeProc ( case Other of
a: 'a';
b: 'b';
end; );
Imho,
On 21 February 2010 17:00, Michalis Kamburelis michalis.ka...@gmail.com wrote:
Which also means less chance of mistake. For example, if you decide
later to change y to y1, you only have to change the code in one
place, not three.
Unfortunately you are wrong Michalis. Ever heard of
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys
graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote:
I vote against adding this language feature. It's not pascal-like and
actually makes the code harder to read. It also only applies to simple
assignment. Case begin..end blocks can do much more than simple
In our previous episode, dmitry boyarintsev said:
assignment. Case begin..end blocks can do much more than simple
oneliners.
Maybe some-one would like to catch-up with Delphi/Prism?
Wouldn't be possible to start a Prism mode to support new Delphi
syntax features? (or modeswitch, just like
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote:
I'd rather see the time spent on features that really matter (like generics,
SEH/COM support, unicode).
+1
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Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 21 February 2010 17:00, Michalis Kamburelis michalis.ka...@gmail.com
wrote:
Which also means less chance of mistake. For example, if you decide
later to change y to y1, you only have to change the code in one
place, not three.
Unfortunately you are wrong
In our previous episode, Michalis Kamburelis said:
You only need to change one variable, and all other instances will
change to. And syncron-edit applies to any selection of text. So
already works in more cases.
Which is cool, but only if you and all your contributors use Lazarus for
Hello FPC-Pascal,
Sunday, February 21, 2010, 7:29:54 PM, you wrote:
MK This is a matter of taste, I can imagine uses when at least functional
MK if would make code *more* readable. Noone forces programmers to
MK convert all their case/if to functional versions if they look
MK unreadable. The
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:37:12 +0100, JoshyFun wrote about Re[2]:
[fpc-pascal] some new features to delphi prisem:
Sunday, February 21, 2010, 7:29:54 PM, you wrote:
MK This is a matter of taste, I can imagine uses when at least
MK functional if would make code *more* readable. Noone forces
MK
Hello FPC-Pascal,
Sunday, February 21, 2010, 9:32:50 PM, you wrote:
DWN This is actually valid ALGOL 60 and/or ALGOL 68. Conditional
DWN expressions were available in both languages. I think Niklaus Wirth
DWN continued with this in ALGOL W, but dropped it from Pascal.
DWN Note that the ALGOLs
Marco van de Voort wrote:
IMHO Prism is not even Delphi. Just recycling of the brand.
+1
I'd rather see the time spent on features that really matter (like generics,
SEH/COM support, unicode).
Definitely. I would like to add 'Interface Delegation' to that list. It's a
vital part of
Marco van de Voort wrote:
It also proves that such solution external to the language is possible. That
weakens the case for a language feature
My point exactly! The language doesn't need such a feature because your
editor of choice should be able to do that, and in Lazarus IDE that is the
Hello,
REM Objects released an interesting document regarding some changes (that
looks so much like Ruby) to their Delphi Prisem.
For example assignment of a value regarding a condition:
x := if Something then 2;
y := case Other of
bla : 'hello';
foo : 'bye';
baz :
y := case Other of
bla : 'hello';
foo : 'bye';
baz : 'adius';
end;
What do you gain with this?
Doesn't look much different to
case Other of
bla : y := 'hello';
foo : y := 'bye';
baz : y := 'adius';
end;
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 20:01, Jürgen Hestermann
juergen.hesterm...@gmx.dewrote:
y := case Other of
bla : 'hello';
foo : 'bye';
baz : 'adius';
end;
What do you gain with this?
Doesn't look much different to
case Other of
bla : y := 'hello';
foo : y
In our previous episode, ik said:
Shorter write imho.
Or something easily marketable to make people upgrade. Not a problem of FPC.
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