Of course Android is a rather hot topic in the fpc and Lazarus
developer's forums. There are pages in the fpc / Lazarus Wiki on Android.
-Michael
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On 03/21/2013 04:11 AM, Xiangrong Fang wrote:
Now I don't know how to write an enumerator for it. ...
Syntax or algorithm ?
-Michael
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I have read this. My question is not about how to write enumerator,
but how to do this for TREEs
Xiangrong Fang: Please anser to a message instead of creating a new thread !
There might be no necessary sort order of a tree.
So you first need to invent a usable sort order and set up the
On 03/21/2013 11:58 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
Ehm... you do know that Amazon S3 Samsung Galaxy S3? Amazon S3
is the cloud storage solution by Amazon. See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_S3
If you see both, you can easily tell them apart :-) :-)
-Michael
On 03/27/2013 09:20 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
you need to jailbreak the Windows RT device to be able to run
unsigned desktop applications.
Never buy such a system !
I am not even sure if this is legal in Europe I.e. you are the owner
of the hardware.
-Michael
On 03/27/2013 10:00 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
That's why a complete new OS port would be necessary to support WinRT...
A new OS would be more appropriate :-P .
-Michael
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On 03/27/2013 10:09 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
I'm not a fan of Windows 8 either, ...
Is Win 8 on normal PCs crippled in a similar manner or is only the ARM
version affected ?
-Michael
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On 03/27/2013 10:16 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
Only the ARM version. Though I'd not want to use the PC version either :P
I'm planning a (kind of) embedded device that need high performance
(quad core, 64 Bit, 4 Gig RAM, SSD).
I need to use Windows, because of the 3rd party software I need to
Thanks a lot for the answers to this very off-topic question.
-Michael
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On 04/16/2013 11:26 AM, Xiangrong Fang wrote:
How can I set the connection and read/write timeout when using socket
in free pascal?
I seem to remember that synapse can do this.
-Michael
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On 04/22/2013 02:23 PM, Xiangrong Fang wrote:
How do I tell if a socket is still connected or not?
The connected State of a TCP/IP socket is a rather complex issue.
A TCP IP connection is either on or off. if it gets disconnected it is
dead and can't be reactivated but by a new open.
As
Seemingly no support for Linux and Android.
-Michael
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On 04/24/2013 10:09 PM, silvioprog wrote:
There are a multi-thread example using SSockets in FPC?
It should be no problem at all to use sockets in Threads (native or via
lnet or Synapse.
Of course if using threads, you will see the problem of inter-thread
communication and/or
On 04/24/2013 10:21 PM, silvioprog wrote:
(no Synapse, LNet or Indy please, I need to use native code)
Indy does provide support for threading (as does AsyncPro, the Socket
flavor of which could be of interest here). But I don't know if it's
easy to use Indy with Lazarus, and I know that
On 04/25/2013 05:15 PM, silvioprog wrote:
Indy has a feature (OnDisconnect property) that notifies you when a
client is not online.
Nope.
It notifies you when the other site actively and successfully does a
disconnect and your site correctly understands the notification. Not
correctly
On 04/27/2013 02:11 PM, Bart wrote:
On 4/27/13, Reinier Olislagers reinierolislag...@gmail.com wrote:
Noticed that an 8086 branch was merged to fpc trunk. Is it time to get
out some 5.25 diskettes[1]?
[1] Shame I dumped all the accompanying hardware long ago ;) Perhaps
break out DOSBOX ;)
I
On 05/08/2013 10:07 AM, Fred van Stappen wrote:
Toc, toc, toc, is there anybody here ?
You hitchhiked a running forum thread.
Nobody likes to answer on such indecent posts.
-Michael
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On 05/08/2013 10:17 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
Except to tell the writer about his/her indecency :)
... if (s)he insists :-)
-Michael
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On 06/05/2013 09:29 AM, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
Jonas working on an LLVM backend - great (he's surely quite
knowledgeable especially after the Java work)
Does LLVM (e.g for a C frontend) provide code generation to Java Byte
code out of the box ? Or are these two backends completely
On 06/08/2013 05:35 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
as I found /usr/mips-linux-gnu/bin folder contains the following files:
ar
as
ld
nm
objcopy
objdump
ranlib
strip
Ok, then add the following option: BINUTILSPREFIX=
Ooops ??`?
The file names do not look like cross - binutils, but like native ones
On 06/09/2013 05:43 PM, Dennis Poon wrote:
My binutils as , ld etc files are located at /usr/mips-linux-gnu/bin/ ...
first try to start these files form the command-line. (e.g. ld -v) If
they don't work decently (which I do suppose), you need different files.
-Michael
On 06/12/2013 11:13 AM, Dennis Poon wrote:
Michael,
I just typed ld -v and it replied:
GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.22
You'd better do
gcc -v
This should output (among others) a line starting Target:
Same will state the architecture and be something like Target: MIPS-linux
-Michael
On 06/12/2013 12:01 PM, Dennis Poon wrote:
But I am working on a i386 Debian box.
I typed gcc -v and it just says Target: i486-linux-gnu
but isn't that normal?
Of course this is normal. what is not normal is that a cross-gcc (which
is part of binutils) is supposed to be named just gcc. (It
On 06/12/2013 05:29 PM, Dennis Poon wrote:
My MIPS hardware is too slow to run a compiler.
Is the project to be compiled so big, that it will take hours to compile ?
-Michael
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On 06/13/2013 02:17 PM, Dennis Poon wrote:
I tested the mipseb helloworld provided by Mark (Thanks again) but the
result is the same as my own helloworld,
on running, the whole shell just froze.
did you try to test a heloworld done in C, using the cross toolchain
you use ?
-Michael
On 06/18/2013 02:35 PM, Marcos Douglas wrote:
Today I call WriteXMLFile(Doc, AFileName) but I have XML with 5G, 10G.. 30G...
What the best way to save line by line?
Why not push it through a stream compressor ?
-Michael
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On 06/19/2013 12:14 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
XML is by far the worst format anybody could choose
Yep. bus as it is Standard some need to
Thus IMHO the way to go is to have the basic XML component work on
linked lists with binary data in memory and only when loading/saving use
an
On 06/19/2013 01:31 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
What do you think TXMLDocument and XMLWriter do ? Exactly this.
In fact I did thinks this until you stated the source XML is completely
in memory which misled me to the assumption that the XML text would be
in memory (the binary list is
Synaser:
http://synapse.ararat.cz/doc/help/synaser.html
-Michael
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On 07/03/2013 06:36 PM, Dennis Poon wrote:
Can you give me some pointer on directly using UART? I need to
implement half-duplex using UART for rs-485 protocol.
In a Linux system, accessing the hardware by user code is strictly
discouraged, at least whenever interrupts are involved (as with
On 07/04/2013 11:16 AM, Dennis Poon wrote:
am afraid the bcm2835, the Soc of Raspberry Pi (the hardware I have
to use) does not provide this hardware support :-(
It states that it does not even support interrupt. Polling is the only
way for events :-(
As already discussed here the RPI is
On 07/04/2013 12:08 PM, Dennis Poon wrote:
I have an ATEN usb-to-serial cable (UC-232A) b
That is not suitable.
There are dedicate RS485 Adapters (many of those also support RS422 mode
(differential full duplex) ).
But the problem might be that they don't come with a Linux driver for ARM.
On 07/04/2013 12:52 PM, Lukasz Sokol wrote:
For RS485 adaptation, use a MAX232 like chip (to convert +-12 to ttl)
and then a RS485 transceiver chip;
If you want to create hardware anyway, better use a PIC24 (pr PIC32)
chip with USB plus a RS485 tranceiver chip. So you get rid of the ATEN
On 07/04/2013 03:55 PM, Luca Olivetti wrote:
Since the driver for prolific/ftdi usb to serial bridge (which is the
one these adapters use) is in the kernel since, like, forever, it will
work with any architecture.
I do know that there is a standard for how many USB-to-serial adapters
work.
On 07/04/2013 05:24 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
In any event, my experience is that USB-serial converters are very poor
Same here !
Standard USB stuff is not really suitable for embedded use.
Due to electrical disturbances the data on the USB line can be corrupted
and the link between
On 07/09/2013 11:02 AM, Noah Silva wrote:
I convert it to UTF8 before displaying it
Not a good idea.
The FPC developers are right now busy implementing the new Delphi
Strings. This _could_ mean that the application programmer can use any
encoding (such as multiple different ANSI
On 07/09/2013 12:55 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
Well, the main reason is not FPC, but Windows. UTF8 in Windows on
_API_ level is simply not a good idea
You are absolutely right.
Here, in theory the Lazarus LCL and the FPC RTL could help by by
providing an application programmer API that
On 07/11/2013 07:06 PM, waldo kitty wrote:
i like the what links here links but have never seen a this links
where one that shows the other pages the current one links to... you
gotta already be on the page to find out what links to it but ya can't
go the other way around...
Funny that the
On 07/16/2013 12:17 PM, Carsten Bager wrote:
If you look at my example underneath, I depend on that a dynamic string always
is assigned
memory space in one connected block.
As the compiler allows for assigning a string to a pchar, the strings
need to be compatible to C strings. Thus:
- The
Synapse makes handling of sockets rather easy.
-Michael
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On 07/20/2013 01:19 PM, Noah Silva wrote:
Wait, I'm slightly confused. It seems people are talking about two
different things:
1. Continuous memory as seen by the program running.
2. Actually physically contiguous memory.
If you don't do hardware related things like DMA, you don't need to
On 07/22/2013 09:52 PM, John Hansen wrote:
I am working on an API library for the new LEGO MINDSTORMS EV3 programmable
brick. The brick is running Linux on a TI AM1808 ARM chip.
Does the EV3 provide any graphic ? If not, you will need to set up a
remote debugging environment, best using
I know abouit these (e.g.):
* Module: Parallel lockfree Fifo MPMC Queue
* Version: 1.12 * Author: Amine Moulay Ramdane
* and
* modified and enhanced by Amine Moulay Ramdane
* Company: Cyber-NT Communications
*
* Email:
On 07/29/2013 07:36 AM, Noah Silva wrote:
Using UTF16 for internal string handling is a sensible option.
It depends.
UTF-16 needs more memory used
Linux OS API in most cases is 8 Bit, while Windows OS API is 16 bit
Conversions are very expensive.
If you need to import export much data but
On 07/29/2013 12:12 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
fpc is not moving to Delphi strings. That would break all
compatibility.
This is exactly what Delphi did :-( .
It will support both.
There might be an appropriate compiler switch. But what about the
RTL-Interface like the type StringList
On 07/30/2013 04:29 AM, Noah Silva wrote:
No, UTF16 only needs more memory if most of the text is ASCII. It
actually uses less than UTF8 in the average case for Japanese, for
example.
Of course you are right here.
Linux OS API in most cases is 8 Bit,
I assume by 8bit, you mean
On 08/04/2013 04:52 PM, Reinier Olislagers wrote:
1. if people are using the mipsel code already/how suitable it is for
console (non-db, perhaps network) programs
On the long run, in fact I am considering to do an embedded project with
PIC32 (which is a MIPS CPU), and here there will be no
On 08/04/2013 05:39 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
At least the nightly test suite results for MIPSel range from around
20 to around 60 failures which puts the target into a quite common
area of other targets
That does sound promising ?
BTW.: is Zero such errors a requirement for a release version ?
On 08/08/2013 12:34 PM, Lukasz Sokol wrote:
Hello,
I am making a Pascal wrapper for a library, which states in its API description:
Note that the Callback function will be called from an independent child
thread, not from the ApplicationÂ’s Window thread. It should not therefore be
used to
On 08/08/2013 01:15 PM, Lukasz Sokol wrote:
but I would then need to make the wrapper object aware of the
Application or its forms then?
This is provided by Runtime Packages with Delphi.
Lazarus does not support Runtime packages (yet) so you are quite on your
own to implement something
On 08/08/2013 02:41 PM, Lukasz Sokol wrote:
Very well then, thanks :)
I suggest that - to exclude problems that might be imposed by some
external non-Lazarus and software not by yourself - you do a test
creating a combination of a Lazarus Application and a Lazarus-made dll
(and/or so) that
On 08/09/2013 10:57 AM, Henry Vermaak wrote:
You seem to think that Lukasz is making a library,
This is what I understood from self contained wrapper unit. But maybe
I am wrong.
-Michael
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On 08/09/2013 11:02 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
Michael, it seems that you understood Lukasz wrong,
Yep. I thought he intents to do a dll himself, but maybe I am wrong.
-Michael
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Right now, the reach of fpc (and Lazarus) Write once compile
everywhere ) is being extended to Android (e.g. by having fpc compile
to Dalvik).
AFAIK, compiling to Android Dalvik already woks rather well.
IIRC, here, first fpc compiles to Java byte code and then this is
converted to Dalvik
On 08/12/2013 10:15 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
Can the Lazarus GUI designer be used to do the GUI of such (Desktop)
applications ?
No.
In a perfect world, Write once compile everywhere would suggest this
(and Web Applications) as a viable goal. But it might be difficult or
completely impossible
On 08/12/2013 10:15 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
For more information please take a look here:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/FPC_JVM
here I see:
It is undoubtedly possible to set up Eclipse so that it will debug
FPC-generated Java class files. Anyone who figures out the details, feel
free to describe
On 08/12/2013 11:46 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
I don't know whether GDB is capable of debugging Java applications.
see http://gcc.gnu.org/java/gdb.html
So it *might* be viable, but I'd not say that it is planned for now.
Again to be discussed the other list.
-Michael
On 08/14/2013 09:38 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
- 0.5 does not always have a direct representation as a floating point
value and thus internally it might be 0.499 or something like that
and thus it will be rounded to 0.4 (see also
http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=24374 )
Hmmm
AFAIU, in
On 08/14/2013 10:42 AM, Vincent Snijders wrote:
For any digit x, it still can be represented exactly in binary
representation ...
Nope,
As the bit count of the mantissa is limited to - say - n , with x
2**(n-1) you will not have an exact representation of x.5.
-Michael
On 08/28/2013 10:07 PM, Osvaldo Filho wrote:
Is there any example to access information on web site that requires
authentication with login and password in form using http from a
Lazarus application?
I used Synapse to access the web site of an embedded controller.
Using FireFox with a
AFAIK, the current Delphi XE can do native code apps for iOS (while
the next release is supposed to be able to do apps for Android, as well),
I don't see why other native code apps should be banned.
-Michael
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On 08/29/2013 12:44 PM, Rogério Martins wrote:
Hi !
Have anyone programmed in lazarus to a BeagleBone board ?
A friend of mine did (with a little help from myself).
Cross compiling and remote debugging is not that easy, so he installed
Lazarus on the BeagleBone and it works fine.
To
On 08/30/2013 01:23 PM, Dennis Poon wrote:
No wonder there are many categories in which Android has Free (or
paid) apps but IOS does not.
AFAIK, Apple keeps a decent share of the price of any APP sold in the shop.
So it's no wonder they are not at all interested in free Apps.
-Michael
On 09/11/2013 07:22 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I'd normally use a thread for this, but I've already got lnet's telnet
client running in the program so would rather stick to the same
library if possible.
AFAIK, Lnet does not do threading internally (as does AsyncPro or -
partly - Indy),
On 09/12/2013 12:47 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I've concluded that using a thread is, in fact, preferable
True.
It's a pity that Synapse and friend (especially SynaSer) does does not
implement internal threads that throw appropriate events in the Main
Thread when something comes in (or
On 09/12/2013 01:28 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
The very reason I use Synapse is that it DOES NOT use threads.
Synapse is simple to use. Keep it so.
Of course I don't vote for Synapse always using threads, but to provide
_additional_ functions / objects (maybe units) that work similar to
On 09/12/2013 02:45 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
E.g. TComport only starts an helper thread if you register receive
events. If you do not, you can use it in a select/waitformultiple like
way in a thread.
Sounds good.
I'm going to test this ASAP.
-Michael
On 09/13/2013 06:06 AM, wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
would this hamper or cause problems with normal non-gui programs using
the library?
1) This feature of course should only be provided additionally to the
functions we know and love.
2) Other than the work-alike
On 09/13/2013 07:08 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
As we have already written in some previous mails to there is a global
event procedure to wake up the main thread that is triggered when
something is queued. The LCL uses this already and other programs
could use a TEvent or whatever.
Could you
On 09/16/2013 11:14 AM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
If you mean integrate with your own eventloop, then yes, make sure
that your idle event in your eventloop calls checksyncrhonize
OK, so checksynchronize() is the correct name of the RTL-provided
function that pulls the event queue. (Sorry that
On 09/16/2013 01:22 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
The non-LCL one must simply call checksynchronize as the blocking part
of the mainthread's eventloop.
Thus, my wish already seems to be fulfilled.
Great !
there is no LCL dependence in theory, but other eventloop systems
might assume they
On 09/16/2013 02:03 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
CheckSynchronize has a timeout parameter:
http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/rtl/classes/checksynchronize.html
Great !
Maybe the docs should be updated and mention TThread.Queue, which for me
is most important, as it - finally - allows for decent
On 09/16/2013 02:01 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
WakeMainThread
Thanks for the pointer.
I'll take another look there.
-Michael
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On 09/16/2013 02:01 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
( http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/rtl/classes/wakemainthread.html ).
IIRC, TThread.Queue does this, as well.
Thus updating this page might be appropriate...
Thanks,
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Enhanced by the knowledge about TThread.queue It will allow me to do
some nice tricks.
-Michael
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Conclusion:
Thus we could draft a living noGUI TCustomApplication sibling (aka
LCL WidgetType), that allows for firing MainThread Events triggered
from (a newly implemented) TTimer, TThread.Queue(),
TThread.Synchronize(), TApplication.QueueAsyncCall() and the legacy
windowish PostMessage() -
On 09/18/2013 10:05 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:32:54 +0200
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
[...]
Instead I was told that I should look at the LCL
source code and that in Windows, the Event queuing mechanism is done by
Windows itself and in Linux it is done
On 09/18/2013 10:38 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:25:43 +0200
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
What non-GUI events - additionally to the events I mentioned - would be
needed for the whole event system of the LCL ?
For example PostMessage can send messages
On 09/18/2013 01:26 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
While there is sigalarm, but can you have multiple independent timers
in an application that way?
I don't know. We would need to ask mse.
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On 09/18/2013 05:03 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
TThread.Queue is a rather new addition. Delphi 2009 if I'm correct. So
that's definitely not very early.
OK, at least four years ;-) .
I have Turbo Delphi. Here it is implemented but not to be found in the
help.
-Michael
On 09/21/2013 04:04 PM, Xiangrong Fang wrote:
Hi All,
I need to use a C++ so file in FreePascal
AFAIK, you only can use C++ libraries in Pascal, if the functions for
the mutual interface are flat C function (i. e. ANSI C functions not
using any C++ classes). Of course, on top of this in
On 09/28/2013 02:51 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote:
. You can read your data into a RawByteString and then call
SetCodePage(rawbytestr,codepagenr,false) to set its code page to
whatever the code page of the data in that string is (without
attempting to convert the data, which is what the last false
On 09/30/2013 06:33 PM, m...@rpzdesign.com wrote:
especially an SSD solid state disk drive.
Really ?
I don't suppose all necessary files will exceed the cache of a decently
equipped Linux PC.
-Michael
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On 10/01/2013 11:16 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
Multi-GUI has nothing to do with the compiler.
But with project compile and link time, as the LCL (including the unit
interface sections) is more complex because of that.
-Michael
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On 09/30/2013 12:25 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
All functionality works identical on all platforms,
Which, regarding look and feel, does have pros and cons, depending on
the users targeted.
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A person in the German Lazarus forum might want to use fpGUI with OpenGL
as a Backend.
Is this viable ? Any chance ?
Thanks,
-Michael
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On 10/04/2013 11:02 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
If you want to share Unicode- or AnsiStrings between library and
application you need to use a common memory manager. For example you
could use unit cmem as one of the first units of both programs. It
will work on Unix based systems and *should* work
On 10/09/2013 03:41 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
One needs to port FPC for these platforms. For Wii, GameCube, Nintendo
DS and GameBoy Advance this was already done, but noone did yet start
a PlayStation or Xbox port.
AFAIK:
PS3 is a multi-Core PPC architecture with propriety display hardware.
On 11/04/2013 02:18 PM, Alexander wrote:
How can I describe a pointer to a constant char in FreePascal?
For example this C function:
int some_func(const char *arg, ...);
My guess in FreePascal is this(with ctypes unit):
function some_func(const arg: pcchar): cint; cdecl; external;
A
On 11/06/2013 09:14 AM, Martin Schreiber wrote:
if you like to discuss the matter.
IMHO this theme is complex enough to start another mailing list instead
of discussion it here.
There already has been a (IMHO very interesting) discussion in the
German Lazarus forum that in fact does have an
On 11/06/2013 10:46 AM, Martin Schreiber wrote:
Please do not discuss MSElang here, I will not answer unless Jonas
requests it. Please use the mentionend mailing list
The post by Jonas seems to be private, as I don't see it in the list.
What did he suggest ?
-Michael
On 12/01/2013 04:57 PM, vfclists . wrote:
Are there some industry standards for specifying GUIs in JSON?
As this is yet another post seeming to target a remote gui to be
attached via a data stream:
- Martin (mse),
any news about ifi ( -
On 12/02/2013 08:50 AM, Michael Schnell wrote: ...
later:
see a message (11/39/13: The future of the Desktop) by martin in the
lazarus-devel mailing list.
-Michael
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http
On 12/11/2013 05:54 PM, silvioprog wrote:
Go to: http://md5decryption.com http://md5decryption.com/
In Please input the MD5 hash that you would like to be decrypted:
field, put: 7db4a8dae498d1b4686ebd1f79326602
See the result in Decrypted Text: field.
Nice !
So you obviously can compress
On 01/10/2014 09:56 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
What's the most efficient and portable way of getting a millisecond
timestamp.
Do you run some realtime OS ? Otherwise millisecond timestamp don't
make much sense, as the OS might delay you application for a second now
and then.
-Michael
Hi Linux Experts.
Since years I am running an fpc program as a kind of daemon on a PC
Linux server.
I simply defined a respawn line in /etc/inittab and with any start of
the server, the program happily automatically runs as a daemon.
Now I migrated the the PC Linux server to an ARM based
On 01/14/2014 11:26 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Does it exit in a sufficiently-controlled state
Yep. If nothing completely unexpected happens, it writes a message in a
log file and cleanly exits. Of course there _might_ be memory leaks, an
unexpected kill signal or other queer stuff that
On 01/14/2014 11:32 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
#!/bin/bash
while [ 1 ]; do
yourprogram youroptions
done
I feel this will start multiple parallel copies of the program and not
wait until the previous one dies.
Moreover I understand that this loop will never exit. Hence I can't use
it
On 01/14/2014 11:35 AM, Tony Whyman wrote:
Michael,
This should be a classic Unix program with two separate parent and child
processes, where the child process runs your program and the parent is
responsible for monitoring the child and respawning it when it stops.
The basic algorithm of the
On 01/14/2014 11:55 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
I had thought about introducing this when doing the implementation,
but decided against it.
Thanks for the warning.
-Michael
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