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Subject: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
I've posted an overview of FrameMaker 8 with my impressions here:
http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2007/08/framemaker-8-first-impress
ions.html
Please feel free to comment on the blog
and faster improvement to stay relevant or it will be left behind.
john
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Sent: Wed 8/29/2007 5:22 AM
To: Alison Carrico
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Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
I think we should be happy
Unfortunately, I think a lot depends on when the 9.0 release appears,
because that will tell us if FM is on the more-or-less-standard 2-year
release cycle that many (most, I don't know...) Adobe products (the CS
suite, at least) seem to be on.
Also, I'd expect that Chris' codebase theory is going
Well,
As long as Framemaker 8.0 cannot create a decent PDF without turning on the
Tagged PDF option I'd withhold my horses.
Of course, the new Unicode support is very attractive, and really should have
been there for ages now, but as long as book cannot be turned into PDF format
'just like
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amp; this version.
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> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007
Unfortunately, I think a lot depends on when the 9.0 release appears,
because that will tell us if FM is on the more-or-less-standard 2-year
release cycle that many (most, I don't know...) Adobe products (the CS
suite, at least) seem to be on.
Also, I'd expect that Chris' codebase theory is going
Well,
As long as Framemaker 8.0 cannot create a decent PDF without turning on the
Tagged PDF option I'd withhold my horses.
Of course, the new Unicode support is very attractive, and really should have
been there for ages now, but as long as book cannot be turned into PDF format
'just like
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Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:00 PM
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Subject: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
I've posted an overview of FrameMaker 8 with my impressions here:
http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2007/08/framemaker-8-first-impress
opinion...
Fred Ridder
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Subject: RE: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
In my business (document/software translation/localization
FM8 looks like a codebase update to me. They've built in the
infrastructure they need for most new features that require interaction
with deeper layers of the underlying code, and made the application
competitive so it can be on par with the rest of their coming office
tools suite. The future is
om:
framers-bounces+acarrico=adamsglobalization.com at lists.frameusers.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:00 PM
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Subject: first impressions of FrameMake
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Subject: RE: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
In my business (document/software translation/localization), the Unicode
support alone is worth the price of admission several times over. I was
as giddy as a schoolgirl when I printed a Russian doc to PDF & all the
bookmarks came out per
FM8 looks like a codebase update to me. They've built in the
infrastructure they need for most new features that require interaction
with deeper layers of the underlying code, and made the application
competitive so it can be on par with the rest of their coming office
tools suite. The future is
I've played with the pre-release beta, and now the demo, and my general
assessment is positive.
FrameMaker 8 is a base-of-platform release, meaning that Adobe threw in
the basic features it's going to develop and augment in the 8-series
line, mainly to bring it up to par with other Adobe software
I've played with the FM 8 trial version for an hour or two. In addition
to Sarah's findings, I noticed that (disappointingly) some old interface
problems remain. Dialogs like Conditional Text, Variable and
Cross-Reference are still not resizable. Variable and Cross-Reference
are still modal.
The
I've played with the FM 8 trial version for an hour or two. In addition
to Sarah's findings, I noticed that (disappointingly) some old interface
problems remain. Dialogs like Conditional Text, Variable and
Cross-Reference are still not resizable. Variable and Cross-Reference
are still modal.
The
I've posted an overview of FrameMaker 8 with my impressions here:
http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2007/08/framemaker-8-first-impressions.html
Please feel free to comment on the blog or in this forum. The review
itself is too long to post to the list in its entirety (and it has
screen shots
Thanks, Sarah,
Lot of things here to support my suspicion that Adobe should have
waited a couple of months with this release. We will probably see more
than a couple of patches soon.
This registering thing: does it mean that we no longer can install the
same FM on two computers like the license
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
This registering thing: does it mean that we no longer can install the
same FM on two computers like the license used to be (one at work or
main computer and one at home or on a laptop, IIRC)?
If the FM8 standalone license is consistent with licenses for other
work pretty well.
- Dov
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From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 2:36 PM
To: Sarah O'Keefe
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
Thanks, Sarah,
Lot of things here to support my suspicion that Adobe
Yes, it works well in Acrobat. Or is this activation thing different
from what was in Acrobat 8?
On 8/9/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The activation mechanism supports two activations such
that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if
you need to move from a system to
Same
- Dov
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From: Bill Swallow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:29 PM
To: Dov Isaacs
Cc: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; Sarah O'Keefe; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
Yes, it works well in Acrobat
and I have to reload the OS in
any way.
Z
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From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 2:36 PM
To: Sarah O'Keefe
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
Thanks, Sarah,
Lot of things here to support my suspicion that Adobe
O'Keefe; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
Hi, Dov, et. al.
Dov Isaacs wrote:
The activation mechanism supports two activations such
that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if
you need to move from a system to another (i.e., a third
system
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Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
Hi, Dov, et. al.
Dov Isaacs wrote:
The activation mechanism supports two activations such
that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if
you need to move from a system to another (i.e., a third
system), there is a function to DE
I've posted an overview of FrameMaker 8 with my impressions here:
http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2007/08/framemaker-8-first-impressions.html
Please feel free to comment on the blog or in this forum. The review
itself is too long to post to the list in its entirety (and it has
screen shots
Thanks, Sarah,
Lot of things here to support my suspicion that Adobe should have
waited a couple of months with this release. We will probably see more
than a couple of patches soon.
This registering thing: does it mean that we no longer can install the
same FM on two computers like the license
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
> This registering thing: does it mean that we no longer can install the
> same FM on two computers like the license used to be (one at work or
> main computer and one at home or on a laptop, IIRC)?
If the FM8 standalone license is consistent with licenses for other
work pretty well.
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 2:36 PM
> To: Sarah O'Keefe
> Cc: framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
>
> Thanks, Sarah,
>
> Lo
Yes, it works well in Acrobat. Or is this activation thing different
from what was in Acrobat 8?
On 8/9/07, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> The activation mechanism supports two activations such
> that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if
> you need to move from a system to another (i.e., a
Same
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Swallow [mailto:techcommdood at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:29 PM
> To: Dov Isaacs
> Cc: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; Sarah O'Keefe; framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: first impressions of Fra
laptop (or OS load) croaks and I have to reload the OS in
any way.
Z
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 2:36 PM
>> To: Sarah O'Keefe
>> Cc: framers at frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: first impressions of
> Cc: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; Sarah O'Keefe; framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
>
> Hi, Dov, et. al.
>
> Dov Isaacs wrote:
> > The activation mechanism supports two activations such
> > that you can use the software per the EULA. Note
09, 2007 3:35 PM
>> To: Dov Isaacs
>> Cc: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; Sarah O'Keefe; framers at frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8
>>
>> Hi, Dov, et. al.
>>
>> Dov Isaacs wrote:
>>> The activation mechanism supports two acti
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