Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
default, window frames and titles removed, all screen available for ACTUAL USE. All easily attainable in E17. :) put a config for E17 for those interested. my .fvwm2rc, but it uses /etc/wm-menus/Fvwm-pl with program menu. you may write it yourself or use my menugen program. set with

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
web browser works best with your recommendation? evilwm on xorg with xfmail and opera and an .xinitrc of: evilwm exec xsetroot -cursor_name ul_angle exec xset m 19/5 12 b 90 880 12 exec swisswatch -geometry -0+0 the best watch using least space on screen is the one hanging on the wall :)

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12/03/07, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: web browser works best with your recommendation? evilwm on xorg with xfmail and opera and an .xinitrc of: evilwm exec xsetroot -cursor_name ul_angle exec xset m 19/5 12 b 90 880 12 exec swisswatch -geometry -0+0 the best watch

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
They're minimalistic and slick to use. If you should need to connect with a windows box there's Xming. Look in the archives! what is Xming? with grep -i xming /usr/ports/INDEX nothing found ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have used XFCE 3.* on all my free BSD boxes for years. It is a Simple GUI which I use on any Desktops I build. The video is clear and is simple. ( XFCE4* I did not like the concept.) Emails etc all work and install easily from ports. one of the best choices for those who want desktop. but

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:10:11 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used XFCE 3.* on all my free BSD boxes for years. It is a Simple GUI which I use on any Desktops I build. The video is clear and is simple. ( XFCE4* I did not like the concept.) Emails etc all work

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
It is for someone who wants to work in that environment. exactly, but it would be handy to define what desktop is. could someone provide me a definition? is X server alone a desktop? i think no. is KDE a desktop? i think yes from what i heard. is XFCE a desktop? i think too. so is my X

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Roger Olofsson
Hello Wojciech, ...If you should need to connect with a Windows box...(to a FreeBSD machine running X). A part of Xming is a remote desktop client for Windows. You will find more information at - http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming. Good luck! Wojciech Puchar skrev: They're

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:28:15 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is for someone who wants to work in that environment. exactly, but it would be handy to define what desktop is. could someone provide me a definition? is X server alone a desktop? i think no. is KDE

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Eric Schuele
On 03/12/2007 03:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote: default, window frames and titles removed, all screen available for ACTUAL USE. All easily attainable in E17. :) put a config for E17 for those interested. Unfortunately the config files are now in a binary format. So to post them would be

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Christian Walther
On 12/03/07, Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/12/2007 03:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote: default, window frames and titles removed, [...] However, it is certainly possible to have all windows borderless and full screen, each on their own desktop. You can navigate desktops with keybd

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
the one i was looking for very long! as i don't have windoze anywhere close now could you tell me if: 1) this X server can use font server or Xorg format fontsets (.pcf.gz or .pcf) 2) does it work with xdm on server (just for sure, as naturally it should) 3) what keybinding will be blocked

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Check out this URL for starters: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html A desktop environment can mean anything ranging from a simple window manager to a complete suite of desktop applications, such as KDE or GNOME. can mean is very far from definition.

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You should give it a try. Its very fast and very lightweight. faster than fvwm2. so i will :) my .fvwm2rc, but it uses /etc/wm-menus/Fvwm-pl with program menu. you may write it yourself or use my menugen program. set with assumption that it's 1024x768 screen WindowFont

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Hm, sounds like installing ion3 would be an easier task. ion3 is the WM of my choice, and it does exactly (or nearly) what you describe, and some more. You can additionally set up different layouts i am always open for making my workplace more productive and easier to use. so i will have a try

Fwd: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Jeff Rollin
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12-Mar-2007 12:56 Subject: Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots... To: Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/03/07, Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/12/2007 03:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote: default, window

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:17:38 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out this URL for starters: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html A desktop environment can mean anything ranging from a simple window manager to a complete suite of

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Roger Olofsson
Hello Wojciech, May I suggest that you redirect these questions to the Xming forum? The link to the forum is at - http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming. Wojciech Puchar skrev: the one i was looking for very long! as i don't have windoze anywhere close now could you tell me if: 1) this X

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Christian Walther
On 12/03/07, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, sounds like installing ion3 would be an easier task. ion3 is the WM of my choice, and it does exactly (or nearly) what you describe, and some more. You can additionally set up different layouts i am always open for making my workplace

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
sorry for accidentally posting this publicly not just privately and polluting list Hello Wojciech, May I suggest that you redirect these questions to the Xming forum? The link to the forum is at - http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming. . . .

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Jonathan Horne thusly... ... so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id like to try some of the lesser known, but still just as functional desktops.

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12/03/07, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . PS. Because i don't get definition of desktop i used there and in other posts: desktop is one complete full screen workspace. be it text or graphics doesn't matter. PS2. still waiting for precise desktop definition, because i think

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-12 Thread ajm
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 05:51:06PM -0400, Parv wrote: in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Jonathan Horne thusly... ... so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id like to try some

polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread Jonathan Horne
ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id like to try to try something thats not gnome, or basically id

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread Patrick Bowen
Jonathan Horne wrote: ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id like to try to try something thats not

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread Bill Moran
Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id like to try to try

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread Sean Bryant
Jonathan Horne wrote: ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id like to try to try something thats not

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread Paulette McGee
--- Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id like to try

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread NetOpsCenter
Patrick Bowen wrote: Jonathan Horne wrote: ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id like to try to

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. you should first define what desktop is. i use xorg+fvwm2 with much

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread Roger Olofsson
Hello Jonathan, I had great help from this mailing list setting up wdm+fluxbox recently. They're minimalistic and slick to use. If you should need to connect with a windows box there's Xming. Look in the archives! Good luck! Jonathan Horne skrev: ive been a KDE user for as long as i can

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread Eric Schuele
On 03/11/2007 13:28, Sean Bryant wrote: Jonathan Horne wrote: ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
a fair bit of eyecandy. I'll second the E17! i like to get all icons, menus, frames and windows to minimum, as it doesn't improve productivity, while taking space of the screen. as i found (at least with fvwm2) that minimum=ZERO i did this and use that config for over 3 years (with

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread Eric Schuele
On 03/11/2007 17:44, Wojciech Puchar wrote: a fair bit of eyecandy. I'll second the E17! i like to get all icons, menus, frames and windows to minimum, as it doesn't improve productivity, while taking space of the screen. as i found (at least with fvwm2) that minimum=ZERO i did this and

Re: polling my FreeBSD compariots...

2007-03-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11/03/07, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ive been a KDE user for as long as i can remember. this week, im off from work, and want to spend some time trying something new with my laptop. so far i have it built with 6.2-RELEASE-p2, and xorg up to the minimal desktop. id like to try