FREEBSD_4_EOL tag, last known index file?

2007-07-15 Thread Jon Dama
Is there a port index file that corresponds to the FREEBSD_4_EOL tag? I am unable to rebuild the index from the tagged checkout. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any

Re: more weird bugs with mmap-ing via NFS

2006-03-21 Thread Jon Dama
From Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 06:58:01PM -0500: I'll try the TCP mount, workaround. If it helps, we can assume, our UDP NFS is broken for sustained high bandwidth writes :-( What? I think you misunderstood. UDP NFS fairs poorly under network congestion; it

Re: RELENG_4 on flash disk and swap

2006-03-13 Thread Jon Dama
If you feel this situation is undesirable, the first thing to do is to put together the patches necessary to allow the kernel to actually track how much ram+swap might be needed to cover the address-space allocations that have been granted. This isn't trivial: just start thinking about shared

Re: sharedmem in jail.

2006-02-27 Thread Jon Dama
There was some discussion about improving this situation a bit; i.e., by permitting an option wherein sysvipc could be per jail. Did this ever come to fruition? Ivan: you should be aware that Kris's short disclaimer really means that enabling the sysctl exposes sysvipc aware processes on the

Re: NFS UDP mounts on RELENG_6?

2005-12-19 Thread Jon Dama
A very critical question here is the network topology. UDP NFS _cannot_ be used across switches where the ports are operating at different speeds--unless the UDP packet size is to be smaller than MTU. Be sure and verify that every link between the server and the client are operating at the same

Re: [SOLVED] Re: NFS UDP mounts on RELENG_6?

2005-12-19 Thread Jon Dama
at 01:01:34AM -0800, Jon Dama wrote: A very critical question here is the network topology. UDP NFS _cannot_ be used across switches where the ports are operating at different speeds--unless the UDP packet size is to be smaller than MTU. Be sure and verify that every link between

Re: [SOLVED] Re: NFS UDP mounts on RELENG_6?

2005-12-19 Thread Jon Dama
I haven't see any evidence that suggests using NFS with UDP is actually useful. IMO, its a false economy. On modern hardware anyway. Keep in mind that NFS was written to run on a 25MHz (or so) 68020. 100% agreed. That is precisely what assumed when I made my statement. -Jon

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 as storage server with raid5?

2005-12-08 Thread Jon Dama
Whatever you do, don't complain about it on this list, or you'll just be told that if you really wanted raid, you should be running SCSI disks Ah, no please complain so that if s/w raid gives you trouble, there will be something to point to when and if people doubt there are still problems

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 cron is running on GMT

2005-11-26 Thread Jon Dama
What is the output of date vs date -u on your system? What's the value of machdep.adjkerntz ? Is /etc/localtime intact? Does anything change if you rerun tzsetup? On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Brett Glass wrote: At 07:20 PM 11/25/2005, Jon Dama wrote: Uh, the problem would be that kernel does

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 cron is running on GMT

2005-11-25 Thread Jon Dama
Uh, the problem would be that kernel does not know that the CMOS clock is set to the local time. Standard practice is that the CMOS clock should be set to UTC. libc then uses knowledge of the timezone to properly report the local time. see man adjkerntz (adjust kernel time zone) On Fri, 25

Re: SiI 3114 woes

2005-09-08 Thread Jon Dama
Yes, but only in a configuration =3GB. But I thought those problems were ironed out? I've been looking to switch that machine back to FreeBSD/amd64 but haven't had a chance yet. Would love to know if there are issues ahead. -Jon On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Mars G. Miro wrote: Yo list/Soren! Has

Re: Sysinstall automatic filesystem size generation.

2005-08-29 Thread Jon Dama
yes, that's quite generous. why isn't /tmp just an mfs mount though? On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Colin Percival wrote: C. Michailidis wrote: Remember, I'm talking about the 'path of least resistance', I understand that I could label the slice manually with any number of different

Re: Sysinstall automatic filesystem size generation.

2005-08-29 Thread Jon Dama
). Perhaps it only says that a program is not allowed to rely on /tmp being persistent. I don't have a copy at hand :-/ -Jon On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Chuck Swiger wrote: Jon Dama wrote: yes, that's quite generous. why isn't /tmp just an mfs mount though? While I like that suggestion

Re: Sysinstall automatic filesystem size generation.

2005-08-29 Thread Jon Dama
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Mark Kirkwood wrote: (FWIW - I have seen Linux + ext3 systems destroyed by power failure because the admins refused to disable write caching on ATA drives - Neither journelling or softupdates is much help if the HW is kidding you about write acknowledgment). This would

Re: Sysinstall automatic filesystem size generation.

2005-08-29 Thread Jon Dama
that it belongs On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Matthias Buelow wrote: Jon Dama wrote: Ironically, phk backed out the underlying support for this safety fix from the FreeBSD kernel b.c. it wasn't integrated into the softupdates code whereas in reality the proper course of action would have been to hook

Re: Create 2.5TB file system on 5.4S?

2005-08-14 Thread Jon Dama
Where exactly did you run into trouble? I'm guessing you made the array, you have a device for it in /dev but ran into problems (expected) using fdisk or bsdlabel. -Jon On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, Brandon Fosdick wrote: Now that my shiny new 9500S is installed and not fighting for IRQs, I've

Re: dangerous situation with shutdown process

2005-07-16 Thread Jon Dama
No, it's at a level below softupdates that this must be done. Softupdates only understands when things have been marked completed with biodone()--the underlying scsi/ata/sata driver must make the determination as to when biodone should be called. The flush has to be done there. _IF_ the flush

Re: dangerous situation with shutdown process

2005-07-15 Thread Jon Dama
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Matthias Buelow wrote: Why am I arguing in an uphill battle here? Is data safety no longer important to the FreeBSD community? Such issues should not even have to be discussed at all! I'm trying to tell you what you have to say to move forward on this issue: 1) tell

Re: dangerous situation with shutdown process

2005-07-15 Thread Jon Dama
I know my drive allows disabling of the write cache, as, apparently, the majority of IDE/SATA drives do. Yes fair enough. This command is in the specification as far back as ata-1. I guess it yields reasonable? performance? You should, however, be telling sos@ this--if he doesn't already

Re: dangerous situation with shutdown process

2005-07-14 Thread Jon Dama
softupdates is perfectly safe with SCSI. its well known that ide and sata w/wo ncq fails to provide suitable semantics for softupdates however, journaling fairs no better, and request barriers do nothing to solve the problem. Request Barriers under linux exist to prevent the low level kernel

Re: dangerous situation with shutdown process

2005-07-14 Thread Jon Dama
set, IF those semantics are actually present in the hardware. please see the thread beginning with the following commit message for an extensive discussion of these topics: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2003-April/001002.html -Jon On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Matthias Buelow wrote: Jon

: dangerous situation with shutdown process

2005-07-14 Thread Jon Dama
imposes on other aspects of the system. I've CCed people who hopefully know more about the actual implementation below softupdates than I do. -Jon Jon Dama [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if the FUA bit in the sata command header is properly respected. if the flush cache command on an ata device

Re: FYI - RELENG_6 branch has been created.

2005-07-14 Thread Jon Dama
BTW, Going from RELENG5 to RELENG6 requires an rm -rf /usr/obj This isn't too surprising, but its worth a note if anyone is making a migration document. Thanks, Jon On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Scott Long wrote: Mike Tancsa wrote: At 05:04 PM 11/07/2005, Robert Watson wrote: As a further

Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux

2005-06-12 Thread Jon Dama
Just wondering: How much processor migration takes place on linux mysql? Do the threads mostly stick to the same processors? I've noticed that on FreeBSD the 4BSD scheduler doesn't do much to preserve cache coherency. What sort of cache/TLB misses do you see running mysql linux vs. mysql

Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux

2005-06-10 Thread Jon Dama
Try linking mysql with ptmalloc2 (instead of the system malloc obviously). Doing this has the side-benefit of ensuring that you don't need to mess with MAXDSIZ. Try linking mysql with david xu's threading library. -Jon On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Tom Gidden wrote: Hi Kris, On 10 Jun 2005, at

Re: Weird NFS problems

2005-05-31 Thread Jon Dama
Yes, but surely you weren't bridging gigabit and 100Mbit before? Did you try my suggestion about binding the IP address of the NFS server to the 100Mbit side? -Jon On Tue, 31 May 2005, Skylar Thompson wrote: Jon Dama wrote: Try switching to TCP NFS. a 100MBit interface cannot keep up

Re: Weird NFS problems

2005-05-31 Thread Jon Dama
Yes, but surely you weren't bridging gigabit and 100Mbit before? Did you try my suggestion about binding the IP address of the NFS server to the 100Mbit side? -Jon On Tue, 31 May 2005, Skylar Thompson wrote: Jon Dama wrote: Try switching to TCP NFS. a 100MBit interface cannot keep up

Re: Weird NFS problems

2005-05-28 Thread Jon Dama
Oh, something else to try: I checked through my notes and discovered that I had gotten UDP to work in a similar configuration before. What I did was bind the IP address to fxp0 instead of em0. By doing this, the kernel seems to send the data at a pace suitable for the slow interface. -Jon

Re: Weird NFS problems

2005-05-28 Thread Jon Dama
Oh, something else to try: I checked through my notes and discovered that I had gotten UDP to work in a similar configuration before. What I did was bind the IP address to fxp0 instead of em0. By doing this, the kernel seems to send the data at a pace suitable for the slow interface. -Jon

Re: Weird NFS problems

2005-05-27 Thread Jon Dama
Try switching to TCP NFS. a 100MBit interface cannot keep up with a 1GBit interface in a bridge configuration. Therefore, in the long run, at full-bore you'd expect to drop 9 out of every 10 ethernet frames. MTU is 1500 therefore 1K works (it fits in one frame), 2K doesn't (your NFS

Re: Weird NFS problems

2005-05-27 Thread Jon Dama
Try switching to TCP NFS. a 100MBit interface cannot keep up with a 1GBit interface in a bridge configuration. Therefore, in the long run, at full-bore you'd expect to drop 9 out of every 10 ethernet frames. MTU is 1500 therefore 1K works (it fits in one frame), 2K doesn't (your NFS

Re: Performance of 4.x vs 5.x (Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches)

2005-05-25 Thread Jon Dama
Could this be quantified by setting up a synthetic experiement: 1) one machine uses dummynet to generate a uniform packet/sec stream 2) another machine has a process receiving those packets and recording their arrival relative to the local TSC. afaik, the TSC is the only source of

Re: Performance of 4.x vs 5.x (Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches)

2005-05-25 Thread Jon Dama
, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 03:33:39PM -0700, Jon Dama wrote: Could this be quantified by setting up a synthetic experiement: 1) one machine uses dummynet to generate a uniform packet/sec stream 2) another machine has a process receiving those packets and recording

Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches

2005-05-23 Thread Jon Dama
It might be beneficial (pipe-dream perhaps) if the all the BSDs coalesced around one port/packaging system. I hear that netbsd's port system has the metadata necessary to support different OSs and different OS versions within one coherent system. What do you think about the relative strengths of