Re: Re: Re: Qlogic 2340 problems

2006-10-12 Thread Matthew Jacob
This is actually very very interesting to me. Flashing the BIOS *shouldn't* matter, but this is now the second (unrelated) incident I've heard where it does in very odd ways. No- on this- thank *you*. It's a path I would have not have thought to take and try and now will. On 10/10/06, [EMAIL

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Dan Lukes
Garance A Drosihn napsal/wrote, On 10/12/06 04:09: Your 4.x system is not doing to die when we EOL 4.x. We're only This is an open-source project. If it really is as easy to support 4.x with security fixes as you think it is, then you (all of you Yes, I'm ready to self-support the 4.x

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Patrick Okui
One of my servers is colocated in a place on a different continent - which is why I haven't been able to upgrade it beyond RELENG_4. Google turns up a binary upgrade as the only way I can get to RELENG_6. Is this still the case (because the logistics on arranging that are ... interesting) or is

Creation of IPv6 link-local addresses

2006-10-12 Thread Trond Endrestøl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Questions regarding IPv6 may not belong here, but I take my chances anyway. Subsection 5.3 of RFC 2462 states that: ``A node forms a link-local address whenever an interface becomes enabled [...]'' One of the events listed in

Re: freebsd panic on HP Proliant DL360

2006-10-12 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 03:43:07PM -0400, Ernest Natiello wrote: E Hello, E I have 4 HP Proliant DL360's (1u) which panic/reboot often (minimum E 1x month), but in a seemingly inconsistent manner. As per other E suggestions, ipf was replaced with pf, an Intel pro 100 was added, the E BGE

Re: Creation of IPv6 link-local addresses

2006-10-12 Thread Trond Endrestøl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:12+0200, Trond Endrestøl wrote: Second, the link-layer address is not recreated when I do an ^^ Sorry, I meant the link-local address. Can I set additional link-local addresses on the vlan interfaces

Re: Question on runing STABLE on old Intel SMP boards

2006-10-12 Thread Danny Braniss
Hello, Stable! Do anyone have running RELENG_6 branch on old Intel SMP boards? I have two of them: SCB2 and SDS2. Both are on RELENG_4_11 today. Thinking on proposed EoL of RELENG_4 branch I'v tryed to move one of them (SCB2) onto 6.1-RELEASE. That was very problematic - ethernet

Re: bce issues still outstanding

2006-10-12 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Kevin, On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:21:27AM -0500, Kevin Kramer wrote: K here is a picture of a panic i get on a Dell Precision 390 booting K 6.2-beta2_amd64. hope this helps. K K http://users.centtech.com/~kramer/broadcom/bge_prec390.jpg Well, although the message above is about bge(4)

Re: Bug in 6.x' C++ compiler

2006-10-12 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 01:22:57PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: GCC would not fix the bug described in http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29390 because the compiler is of an unsupported version (they only support 4.x now). Yet, the problem is rather real and hits when the

Re: freebsd panic on HP Proliant DL360

2006-10-12 Thread Pete French
This is a known problem. It is fixed in HEAD, but unfortunately it isn't mergeable to RELENG_6. The problem isn't related to either pf, ipf or NIC drivers. This is a little alarming - because what you seem to be saying is that if you have DL360's then you need to either run current, or accept

Re: freebsd panic on HP Proliant DL360

2006-10-12 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 11:03:36AM +0100, Pete French wrote: P This is a known problem. It is fixed in HEAD, but unfortunately it P isn't mergeable to RELENG_6. The problem isn't related to either pf, P ipf or NIC drivers. P P This is a little alarming - because what you seem to be saying is

Re: Question on runing STABLE on old Intel SMP boards

2006-10-12 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Sergey N. Voronkov wrote: Hello, Stable! Do anyone have running RELENG_6 branch on old Intel SMP boards? I have two of them: SCB2 and SDS2. Both are on RELENG_4_11 today. Thinking on proposed EoL of RELENG_4 branch I'v tryed to move one of them (SCB2) onto 6.1-RELEASE. That was very problematic

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Simon L. Nielsen
On 2006.10.12 10:59:18 +0300, Patrick Okui wrote: One of my servers is colocated in a place on a different continent - which is why I haven't been able to upgrade it beyond RELENG_4. Google turns up a binary upgrade as the only way I can get to RELENG_6. Is this still the case (because the

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Dan Lukes wrote: But, maybe for my poor knowledge of english, you misunderstand the point of my think. Your English is quite good, actually. :) The main problem is - 6.x is still not competitive replacement for 4.x. I'm NOT speaking about old unsupported hardware - I

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
Hi list, On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 03:15:25PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: In order to facilitate this effort, I'd like to suggest that a new mailing list be created, freebsd-releng4. That would allow the interested folks to get together, pool resources, and decide what is possible. I am all

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Dan Lukes
Doug Barton wrote: The main problem is - 6.x is still not competitive replacement for 4.x. I'm NOT speaking about old unsupported hardware - I speaked about performance in some situation and believe in it's stability. I think saying that it's a worse replacement is a bit too broad.

carp0 interface goes down on 6.2-PRERELEASE

2006-10-12 Thread Ari Suutari
Hi, I started experimenting with carp, in order to replace freevrrpd stuff we are currently using. I'm running quite recent version of RELENG_6 (compiled this week). I was able to configure carp ok, but for some odd reason the interface goes down by itself shortly after it has been configured.

Re: Question on runing STABLE on old Intel SMP boards

2006-10-12 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Thursday 12 October 2006 05:47, you wrote: Do you have any tips? (Like running with ACPI disabled ond so on). You could try setting kern.hz=100 in /boot/loader.conf. It lowers system overhead, especially on SMP systems. - Pieter ___

Re: carp0 interface goes down on 6.2-PRERELEASE

2006-10-12 Thread Tom Judge
Ari Suutari wrote: Hi, I started experimenting with carp, in order to replace freevrrpd stuff we are currently using. I'm running quite recent version of RELENG_6 (compiled this week). I was able to configure carp ok, but for some odd reason the interface goes down by itself shortly after it

Re: carp0 interface goes down on 6.2-PRERELEASE

2006-10-12 Thread Ari Suutari
Hi, Tom Judge wrote: I have seen similar problems when the carp multicast (224.0.0.18) traffic was not allowed to be transmitted to the network due to a firewall configuration problem. Firewall wasn't enabled at this point, I wanted to keep things as simple as possible during

Re: bce issues still outstanding

2006-10-12 Thread Kevin Kramer
I'll try that, but we received a response from David C. and few weeks ago (on another thread) that the BCE driver should be picking up this NIC. The latest 6.1 stable does not panic with the NIC disabled in the BIOS. Gleb Smirnoff wrote: Kevin, On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 11:21:27AM -0500,

Re: Question on runing STABLE on old Intel SMP boards

2006-10-12 Thread Sergey N. Voronkov
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 01:21:16PM +0200, Pieter de Goeje wrote: On Thursday 12 October 2006 05:47, you wrote: Do you have any tips? (Like running with ACPI disabled ond so on). You could try setting kern.hz=100 in /boot/loader.conf. It lowers system overhead, especially on SMP systems.

Re: iwi, hidden SSID and wpa_supplicant problem

2006-10-12 Thread Goran Lowkrantz
Hi, Reporting back after a few days with the patch. The connect and switching between accesspoints work but there are still a few down/up events, about once every two hours but that may have somthing to do with the dhcp cleint. At the moment, the number of lease renewals match the number of

OT: Re: Bug in 6.x' C++ compiler

2006-10-12 Thread O. Hartmann
Kostik Belousov wrote: On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 01:22:57PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: GCC would not fix the bug described in http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29390 because the compiler is of an unsupported version (they only support 4.x now). Yet, the problem is rather

Re: bce issues still outstanding

2006-10-12 Thread Scott Long
Yeah, the error is probably a PCI error coming from the chipset, not a RAM error. Unfortunately, there are a lot of mystery reasons why a PCI error might get triggered, and the message isn't enough to say what exactly it is. However, one simple test you can to is to disable the EISA device in

Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-12 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Dan Lukes [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:43:20 +0200): [moved from security@ to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The main problem is - 6.x is still not competitive replacement for 4.x. I'm NOT speaking about old unsupported hardware - I speaked about performance in some situation

RE: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Chris Laco
Just a lurker, and FreeBSD users since late 3.0... Problem is performance and trust in stability. It's money and hardware independent problem. 5.x has significant performance hit, so we can't count it as competitive replacement for 4.x. 6.1 is second release in 6.x tree.

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Dan Lukes [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:40:48 +0200): I'm using 6-STABLE (and 5-STABLE previously) on some unimportant computers and I'm reposting observered problems (mostly with offer of patch). The trick is to make some noise and get the attention of a

Re: Question on runing STABLE on old Intel SMP boards

2006-10-12 Thread Vivek Khera
On Oct 11, 2006, at 11:47 PM, Sergey N. Voronkov wrote: Do you have any tips? (Like running with ACPI disabled ond so on). my favorite trick on installing 6.x is to disable acpi timer, but I only do that if the machine hangs after probing the devices. otherwise it has booted up and

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Vivek Khera
On Oct 11, 2006, at 6:36 PM, Paul Allen wrote: I think the most likely path of success is, as you say, to make the 4.x userland more like 6.x. For anyone who really wishes to stick to freebsd 4.x for performance, we should refer them to dragonflybsd, which seems to be taking this

Ping question

2006-10-12 Thread Balgansuren Batsukh
Hello, I am using FreeBSD-6.2-PRERELEASE and when I ping to outside IP address get below result. gk# ping y.y.y.y PING y.y.y.y (y.y.y.y): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from y.y.y.y: icmp_seq=0 ttl=43 time=482.571 ms 64 bytes from y.y.y.y: icmp_seq=0 ttl=43 time=482.934 ms (DUP!) 64 bytes from y.y.y.y:

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Vivek Khera
On Oct 11, 2006, at 6:42 PM, Dan Lukes wrote: 5.x has significant performance hit, so we can't count it as competitive replacement for 4.x. 6.1 is second release in 6.x tree. 6.0 has stability problem. The 6.1 is sufficiently stable on average use, but it still has problems in edge

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-12 Thread Danial Thom
--- Alexander Leidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Dan Lukes [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:43:20 +0200): [moved from security@ to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The main problem is - 6.x is still not competitive replacement for 4.x. I'm NOT speaking about old unsupported

Re: Ping question

2006-10-12 Thread Jaromír Dvořáček
Hi, The DUP means that ping received two replies to one enquiry - the icmp_sequence number is duplicated. In my case it was mistake in wifi configuration... Jaromir Dvoracek On 12. Oct (Thursday) 2006 at 22:05:30, Balgansuren Batsukh wrote: Hello, I am using FreeBSD-6.2-PRERELEASE and

Re: Ping question

2006-10-12 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Balgansuren Batsukh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I am using FreeBSD-6.2-PRERELEASE and when I ping to outside IP address get below result. gk# ping y.y.y.y PING y.y.y.y (y.y.y.y): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from y.y.y.y: icmp_seq=0 ttl=43 time=482.571 ms 64 bytes from y.y.y.y:

Re: Dell 1950 does not properly respond to reboot and shutdown -p

2006-10-12 Thread Bruno Ducrot
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 02:53:15PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Doug Ambrisko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: John Baldwin writes: | On Tuesday 10 October 2006 08:54, Bill Moran wrote: | In response to Doug Ambrisko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | Bruno Ducrot writes: | | On Wed, Oct 04, 2006

VIA C7 support

2006-10-12 Thread Matthieu Michaud
Hi all, I rent a small server based on a VIA C7 on which I installed a 6.2-PRERELEASE as of today (see dmesg and kernconf attached). It runs fairly well but I wonder if it couldn't be faster. According to padlock(4) man page, crypto hardware support is available by adding padlock, crypto and

Re: Dell 1950 does not properly respond to reboot and shutdown -p

2006-10-12 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Bruno Ducrot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 02:53:15PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Doug Ambrisko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: John Baldwin writes: | On Tuesday 10 October 2006 08:54, Bill Moran wrote: | In response to Doug Ambrisko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: bce issues still outstanding

2006-10-12 Thread Kevin Kramer
There is no line for EISA in the GENERIC config file, nor can I find it in device.hints. The markings on the chip say it is a BCM5754, but it's being recognized as BCM5787. I currently have the machine at the db prompt if someone can walk me through getting valuable information.

Re: freebsd panic on HP Proliant DL360

2006-10-12 Thread Ernest Natiello
Hello, Thank you very much for all of the help. I am trying to understand this issue, as it has been plaguing me for quite some time. So, extrapolating from the below kgdb output, am I to assume that the process causing the error is tcpserver? And should I further infer that tcpserver

Re: VIA C7 support

2006-10-12 Thread Oliver Fromme
Matthieu Michaud wrote: I rent a small server based on a VIA C7 on which I installed a 6.2-PRERELEASE as of today (see dmesg and kernconf attached). It runs fairly well but I wonder if it couldn't be faster. According to padlock(4) man page, crypto hardware support is available by

Re: freebsd panic on HP Proliant DL360

2006-10-12 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 11:18:03AM -0400, Ernest Natiello wrote: E Hello, E Thank you very much for all of the help. I am trying to understand E this issue, as it has been plaguing me for quite some time. E So, extrapolating from the below kgdb output, am I to assume that E the process

Re: Dell 1950 does not properly respond to reboot and shutdown -p

2006-10-12 Thread Olivier Mueller
Le 12 oct. 06 à 17:00, Bill Moran a écrit : In response to Bruno Ducrot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The device_printf() function take too much time I think, so you get the same behaviour as the DELAY(). True. Problem is that I considered that possibility, and removed the device_printf(), rebuild

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-12 Thread N.J. Mann
On Thu 12 Oct 07:19, Danial Thom wrote: [...] Maybe its just time for the entire FreeBSD team to come out of its world of delusion and come to terms with what every real-life user of FreeBSD knows: In how ever many years of development, there is still no good reason to use anything other

Re: freebsd panic on HP Proliant DL360

2006-10-12 Thread Ernest Natiello
here we go: (kgdb) frame 7 #7 0xc072191d in ip_ctloutput (so=0x1, sopt=0xe9226c90) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_output.c:1184 1184INP_LOCK(inp); (kgdb) p *sopt $1 = {sopt_dir = SOPT_SET, sopt_level = 0, sopt_name = 1, sopt_val = 0x0, sopt_valsize = 0, sopt_td =

Re: Dell 1950 does not properly respond to reboot and shutdown -p

2006-10-12 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Olivier Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would be happy to test help, I also have a PE1950 around waiting for this problem to be solved to go in production. I would just need to have the patch. (I'll check the list archive later, I just joined freebsd-stable today) There

Re: Dell 1950 does not properly respond to reboot and shutdown -p

2006-10-12 Thread Olivier Mueller
Le 12 oct. 06 à 18:03, Bill Moran a écrit : There isn't really a patch per-se. Just a bunch of recommendations on where to put extra debugging information. You'll find it in the archives. ok thanks, I'll check. Btw, it would be nice if the patched if_bce.c could also be integrated into

Re: VIA C7 support

2006-10-12 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 11:37 AM 10/12/2006, Oliver Fromme wrote: Matthieu Michaud wrote: I rent a small server based on a VIA C7 on which I installed a 6.2-PRERELEASE as of today (see dmesg and kernconf attached). It runs fairly well but I wonder if it couldn't be faster. According to padlock(4) man page,

Re: Another whirl with FreeBSD

2006-10-12 Thread Mike Bristow
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 01:13:27PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: Heinrich Rebehn wrote: [i386 vs. amd64] Overhead ?? Would this mean that the 64 bit version will run slower? It depends. Most applications will run somewhat faster, but there are cases where you might get a small

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-12 Thread Dan Lukes
Danial Thom wrote: The right thing to do is to port the SATA support and new NIC support back to 4.x and support both. 4.x is far superior on a Uniprocessor system and FreeBSD-5+ may be an entire re-write away from ever being any good at MP. Come to terms with it, PLEASE, because it is the case

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-12 Thread Vlad GALU
On 10/12/06, Dan Lukes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danial Thom wrote: The right thing to do is to port the SATA support and new NIC support back to 4.x and support both. 4.x is far superior on a Uniprocessor system and FreeBSD-5+ may be an entire re-write away from ever being any good at MP.

Re: Bug in 6.x' C++ compiler

2006-10-12 Thread Mikhail Teterin
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29390 четвер 12 жовтень 2006 05:54, Kostik Belousov написав: Thread model: posix gcc version 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305 opt/gcc-3.4.6 is the stock version of the 3.4.6 built directly from the FSF sources (relatively long time ago). Well, if

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-12 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe its just time for the entire FreeBSD team to come out of its world of delusion and come to terms with what every real-life user of FreeBSD knows: In how ever many years of development, there is still no good

Re: Another whirl with FreeBSD

2006-10-12 Thread Gary Palmer
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 05:20:03PM +0100, Mike Bristow wrote: On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 01:13:27PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: Heinrich Rebehn wrote: [i386 vs. amd64] Overhead ?? Would this mean that the 64 bit version will run slower? It depends. Most applications will run

Re: Another whirl with FreeBSD

2006-10-12 Thread Oliver Fromme
Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just one remaining question, does what you said apply to the new Intel Core 2 Duo chips as well? It should apply to every machine that's supported by FreeBSD/amd64, i.e. any processor that supports AMD64 or EM64T (as intel calls it). Best regards

Re: bce issues still outstanding

2006-10-12 Thread Tom Judge
Scott Long wrote: Bill Moran wrote: I've copied many of the people who I've been working with directly on this issue. Can anyone provide a status update on these problems? Discussion seems to have stopped since Oct 5. Any new patches to test? I'm actively working on fixing the driver

Re: bce issues still outstanding

2006-10-12 Thread Scott Long
Tom Judge wrote: Scott Long wrote: Bill Moran wrote: I've copied many of the people who I've been working with directly on this issue. Can anyone provide a status update on these problems? Discussion seems to have stopped since Oct 5. Any new patches to test? I'm actively working on

Re: carp0 interface goes down on 6.2-PRERELEASE

2006-10-12 Thread Marko Lerota
Ari Suutari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: carp0: flags=49UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING mtu 1500 inet 192.168.5.59 netmask 0xff00 carp: BACKUP vhid 55 advbase 1 advskew 0 + sleep 5 + ifconfig carp0 carp0: flags=8LOOPBACK mtu 1500 carp: INIT vhid 55 advbase 1 advskew 0 See,

Re: Another whirl with FreeBSD

2006-10-12 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thursday 12 October 2006 09:53 am, Oliver Fromme wrote: Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just one remaining question, does what you said apply to the new Intel Core 2 Duo chips as well? It should apply to every machine that's supported by FreeBSD/amd64, i.e. any processor

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Edward B. DREGER
ML Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:41:10 -0500 ML From: Mark Linimon ML We are currently trying to support 4 major CVS branches. Ughh. Perhaps work on 7 should have been delayed until 5 and 6 were able to woo people away from 4 -- or at least not leave valid reasons for people wanting to stay

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Edward B. DREGER
KK Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:46:54 -0400 KK From: Kris Kennaway KK The 4.x support policy was announced some time ago and may be found KK here: policy != justification Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-12 Thread Kip Macy
Please do not feed the trolls. -Kip On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Danial Thom wrote: --- Alexander Leidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Dan Lukes [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:43:20 +0200): [moved from security@ to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Robert Joosten
Hi, ML We are currently trying to support 4 major CVS branches. EBD Perhaps work on 7 should have been delayed until 5 and 6 were able to EBD woo people away from 4 -- or at least not leave valid reasons for RBD people Eeehm, afaik 5 is an interim for 6, so 5 should be stopped. I know plenty

Re: Bug in 6.x' C++ compiler

2006-10-12 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:36:42PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29390 четвер 12 жовтень 2006 05:54, Kostik Belousov написав: Thread model: posix gcc version 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305 opt/gcc-3.4.6 is the stock version of the 3.4.6 built

Re: Another whirl with FreeBSD

2006-10-12 Thread Pete French
Doesn't the increased number of registers available when running amd64 really, really help when compared with the traditionally register-starved i386? Yes, it seems to - evereything soemone else said about context switch verhead and compiles is true of course, but the FreeBSD compiler seems

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:59:10AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: On Oct 11, 2006, at 6:36 PM, Paul Allen wrote: I think the most likely path of success is, as you say, to make the 4.x userland more like 6.x. For anyone who really wishes to stick to freebsd 4.x for performance, we

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 05:43:01PM +, Edward B. DREGER wrote: KK Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:46:54 -0400 KK From: Kris Kennaway KK The 4.x support policy was announced some time ago and may be found KK here: policy != justification Yes, and the justification has also been discussed

Re: Dell 1950 does not properly respond to reboot and shutdown -p

2006-10-12 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Olivier Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Btw, it would be nice if the patched if_bce.c could also be integrated into the cvs (http://yogurt.org/FreeBSD/if_bce.c). At the moment (beg. of the week) I still had to patch the source tree by hand to keep the network interface working

Re: Dell 1950 does not properly respond to reboot and shutdown -p

2006-10-12 Thread Olivier Mueller
On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 15:16 -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Olivier Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Btw, it would be nice if the patched if_bce.c could also be integrated into the cvs (http://yogurt.org/FreeBSD/if_bce.c). At the moment (beg. of the week) I still had to patch the

Re: carp0 interface goes down on 6.2-PRERELEASE

2006-10-12 Thread Vivek Khera
On Oct 12, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Marko Lerota wrote: I think the interface didn't get sync from other carp interface, so it doesn't know that he is the MASTER or BACKUP, and because of that goes into the INIT state. Shouldn't it then move to MASTER since the other server could possibly be

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Dan Lukes
Doug Barton napsal/wrote, On 10/12/06 21:06: The odds are pretty close to 100% that things will run better with 6.x than with 5.x. Many fixes that have been MFC'ed to 6.x have not and will not be ported to 5.x. It's better to explicitly ask for MFC to selected branches when submitting PR.

Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

2006-10-12 Thread Danial Thom
--- Dan Lukes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danial Thom wrote: The right thing to do is to port the SATA support and new NIC support back to 4.x and support both. 4.x is far superior on a Uniprocessor system and FreeBSD-5+ may be an entire re-write away from ever being any good at MP.

Polling overflow ?

2006-10-12 Thread Albert Shih
Hi all I've very strange problem with my NFS server. This server running 6-Stable Last update (after crash :-( ) 23 september. I've very strange problem, after some days I got this kind of message on syslog nfs kernel: Connection attempt to TCP MY_NFS_IP_ADDR:111 from

Userland freezes during heavy packet forwarding workloads

2006-10-12 Thread Scott Ullrich
Hello! We (pfSense developers) have noticed an interesting problem where userland stops functioning under high packet forwarding workloads. Userland applications such as sshd and lighttpd freeze but userland resumes after the network load eases. We tested with both PF enabled and disabled and

RE: Dell 1950 does not properly respond to reboot and shutdown -p

2006-10-12 Thread Bucky Jordan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Mueller Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dell 1950 does not properly respond to reboot and shutdown -p On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 15:16

Re: Polling overflow ?

2006-10-12 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 05:00 PM 10/12/2006, Albert Shih wrote: The server have all NIC in polling mode because without this flag the NIC disapear (em0 watchdog etc...) Today the only solution I've found is ... reboot the server :-( I would try and disable polling and then try the patch in

Re: Userland freezes during heavy packet forwarding workloads

2006-10-12 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 12, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Scott Ullrich wrote: We (pfSense developers) have noticed an interesting problem where userland stops functioning under high packet forwarding workloads. Userland applications such as sshd and lighttpd freeze but userland resumes after the network load eases. [

Re: carp0 interface goes down on 6.2-PRERELEASE

2006-10-12 Thread Marko Lerota
Vivek Khera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Oct 12, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Marko Lerota wrote: I think the interface didn't get sync from other carp interface, so it doesn't know that he is the MASTER or BACKUP, and because of that goes into the INIT state. Shouldn't it then move to MASTER since

Ethernet Switch and MIPS

2006-10-12 Thread Marcos Biscaysaqu
Hi there. We have a very interesting Embebed FreeBSD base system using Netgraph, BGP, Voip over IP (SER and Asterisk), PF, Remote Desktop Client (netboot), VLANs, Q-in-Q Vlan, VPN, L2tp, pptp, Xmail, Dhcp server, Wireless etc.. All the setting and config files are created by a central

Re: carp0 interface goes down on 6.2-PRERELEASE

2006-10-12 Thread Marko Lerota
Marko Lerota [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shouldn't it then move to MASTER since the other server could possibly be dead? Yes, but if interface had _never_ received any pfsync packet, and sysctl is set to net.inet.carp.preempt=0 ? Maybe it's because of that. Don't know really. Documentation

VIA IDE controller not detected on RELENG_6

2006-10-12 Thread Dominic Bishop
I am running a RELENG_6 from yesterday on amd64 and the VIA PATA controller is being detected as GENERIC ATA, from dmesg: atapci0: GENERIC ATA controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 15.0 on pci0 uname -a: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Wed

Re: OT: Re: Bug in 6.x' C++ compiler

2006-10-12 Thread Alexander Kabaev
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:02:45 +0200 O. Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I hope this bug has been sent by heaven and speeds up swapping system compiler of FreeBSD 6.X to 4.1 or 4.X :-) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Userland freezes during heavy packet forwarding workloads

2006-10-12 Thread Scott Ullrich
On 10/12/06, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 12, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Scott Ullrich wrote: We (pfSense developers) have noticed an interesting problem where userland stops functioning under high packet forwarding workloads. Userland applications such as sshd and lighttpd freeze but

Re: [mico-devel] PATH and BUGS

2006-10-12 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: i'm sorry if i was cranky. i'm going to be more RTFM-y now. On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: i finally started rtfm-ing and i am feeling concerned.. first of all.. /usr/local/mico/BUGS looks alarming be solved in later releases. Please

Re: [mico-devel] sad lack of randomness

2006-10-12 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: is this a bad thing? cat Makefile # Makefile for a little mico client that reads random numbers from a # Corba-server. See client.cc for details. all: .depend client include /usr/local/mico/MakeVars INSTALL_DIR = random INSTALL_SRCS=

Re: [mico-devel] sad lack of randomness

2006-10-12 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: is this a bad thing? cat Makefile # Makefile for a little mico client that reads random numbers from a # Corba-server. See client.cc for details. all: .depend client include /usr/local/mico/MakeVars INSTALL_DIR = random INSTALL_SRCS=

Re: [mico-devel] bench unexpected puke

2006-10-12 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: i was sitting here saving about 20/150 freeBSD-devel emails i got in the past day and a half and i am copying the dingy about bench when suddenly bench decided to spit something else out at me..i thought it had finished. i guess i better do a ps and

Re: [mico-devel] Re: oh dear.. should mico/demo werk? is mico broke?

2006-10-12 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: h.. i needed to configure right, huh? i don't think i did anything {:} heh is it README in /usr/local/mico ? oh wait.. u know what i did was pkg_add -r mico that's all. freeBSD is real kewl that way. maybe i should build all my demos in

Re: [mico-devel] bench is interesting

2006-10-12 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
a little info for the past slew of mee doing mico on freeBSD gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518 Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A

oh dear generic has error

2006-10-12 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
Password: bsd# cd /usr/local/mico/demo/generic bsd# gmake echo '# Module dependencies' .depend /usr/local/mico/./admin/mkdepend -I. -I../../include -O2 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -D_ THREAD_SAFE -O *.c *.cc .depend c++ -I. -I../../include -O2 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -O -c client

one more generic dingy

2006-10-12 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
#bsd is the root prompt bsd# run_test run_test: Command not found. bsd# ./run_test /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libmicoir2.3.12.so not found, required by ird /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libmicoir2.3.12.so not found, required by idl /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object

Re: Ethernet Switch and MIPS

2006-10-12 Thread Bernd Walter
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:31:53AM +1300, Marcos Biscaysaqu wrote: Hi there. We have a very interesting Embebed FreeBSD base system using Netgraph, BGP, Voip over IP (SER and Asterisk), PF, Remote Desktop Client (netboot), VLANs, Q-in-Q Vlan, VPN, L2tp, pptp, Xmail, Dhcp server,

Re: [mico-devel] Re: oh dear.. should mico/demo werk? is mico broke?

2006-10-12 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: i'm running freeBSD. umm.. On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: What relevance does this have to FreeBSD-stable? kris /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libmico2.3.12.so not found, required by server bsd# ./client /libexec/ld-elf.so.1:

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:59:10AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: For anyone who really wishes to stick to FreeBSD 4.x for performance, we should refer them to dragonflybsd, which seems to be taking this approach. It was forked from FreeBSD 4.8 and seems to pretty modern in userland.

Re: Ethernet Switch and MIPS

2006-10-12 Thread Peter Ross
Hi, On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, Bernd Walter wrote: We have a very interesting Embebed FreeBSD base system using Netgraph, BGP, Voip over IP (SER and Asterisk), PF, Remote Desktop Client (netboot), VLANs, Q-in-Q Vlan, VPN, L2tp, pptp, Xmail, Dhcp server, Wireless etc.. All the

Re: Userland freezes during heavy packet forwarding workloads

2006-10-12 Thread Scott Ullrich
On 10/12/06, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 12, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Scott Ullrich wrote: We (pfSense developers) have noticed an interesting problem where userland stops functioning under high packet forwarding workloads. Userland applications such as sshd and lighttpd freeze but

Re: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon

2006-10-12 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 10/13/06, Mark Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DragonFly has made substantial rewrites/changes since the fork from FreeBSD. I think to assume that there are no regressions in either stability, speed, or support may be naive. Has anyone tried benchmarking DragonflyBSD against FreeBSD 5.x

Re: carp0 interface goes down on 6.2-PRERELEASE

2006-10-12 Thread Ari Suutari
Hi, Vivek Khera wrote: On Oct 12, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Marko Lerota wrote: I think the interface didn't get sync from other carp interface, so it doesn't know that he is the MASTER or BACKUP, and because of that goes into the INIT state. Shouldn't it then move to MASTER since the other server

Re: carp0 interface goes down on 6.2-PRERELEASE

2006-10-12 Thread Ari Suutari
Hi, Marko Lerota wrote: I meant: Maybe first they have to talk to each other and say: OK, I will be the master first, and you wait. And if I don't send you any more sync packets, then you should be in charge :) I have been using freevrrpd for quite a long time now and I

Re: VIA IDE controller not detected on RELENG_6

2006-10-12 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 11:59:00PM +0100, Dominic Bishop wrote: I am running a RELENG_6 from yesterday on amd64 and the VIA PATA controller is being detected as GENERIC ATA, from dmesg: atapci0: GENERIC ATA controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 15.0 on

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