On Friday, June 29, 2012 5:50:05 am Gergely CZUCZY wrote:
Hello,
I'm mostly using freebsd, but there are a few cases where it's
impossible to do, and because of these, i'm not using fbsd there.
These reasons are mostly are:
- Lack of a working infiniband/OFED stack, with all its utils,
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:55:04 -0400
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Friday, June 29, 2012 5:50:05 am Gergely CZUCZY wrote:
Hello,
I'm mostly using freebsd, but there are a few cases where it's
impossible to do, and because of these, i'm not using fbsd there.
These reasons are
On Monday, July 02, 2012 1:23:29 pm Gergely CZUCZY wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:55:04 -0400
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Friday, June 29, 2012 5:50:05 am Gergely CZUCZY wrote:
Hello,
I'm mostly using freebsd, but there are a few cases where it's
impossible to do, and
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:52:25 -0400
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Monday, July 02, 2012 1:23:29 pm Gergely CZUCZY wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:55:04 -0400
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Friday, June 29, 2012 5:50:05 am Gergely CZUCZY wrote:
Hello,
I'm
Hmm, in my local testing we've been able to use the 40G mlxen(4)
adapters fine with the OFED stack. I believe we have also done a bit
more involved testing on the IB side than just ping as well (at least
RX and TX of UDP packets).
Well, it didn't work for us. We have the connext3 cards. And
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 21:25:58 +0300
nickolas...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, in my local testing we've been able to use the 40G mlxen(4)
adapters fine with the OFED stack. I believe we have also done a
bit more involved testing on the IB side than just ping as well
(at least RX and TX of UDP
Hello,
I'm mostly using freebsd, but there are a few cases where it's
impossible to do, and because of these, i'm not using fbsd there.
These reasons are mostly are:
- Lack of a working infiniband/OFED stack, with all its utils,
mellanox connectX3 drivers, RDMA, iscsi-over-RDMA,
- Lack of proper support for a decent hypervisor for virtualisation.
We can't make a hypervisor out of freebsd, if there are no such
virtualisations available like XEN, kvm or something similar, that
just works out of the box.
What do you need that VirtualBox doesn't provide ? I
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:55:20 +0100
Pete French petefre...@ingresso.co.uk wrote:
- Lack of proper support for a decent hypervisor for
virtualisation. We can't make a hypervisor out of freebsd, if there
are no such virtualisations available like XEN, kvm or something
similar, that just
Yes, virtualbox is not that bad. However, to get some really nice
features, you need the non-free version. Also, we can use citrix's
xenserver's management tool to manage non-citrix xen clusters, because
the API is same. With that we get a management tool for our clusters,
which is really
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 04:09:53PM -0400, Chris Nehren wrote:
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 14:50:22 -0500 , Bryan Drewery wrote:
FWIW, there is freebsd-update(8) now for binary updating of base, and
pkgng[1] will allow binary upgrading of packages/ports similar to apt-get.
[1]
In message 7b6e5361-b109-498e-b22f-96a94dec3...@mac.com, Chuck Swiger writes:
Hi, Dave--
On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Dave Hayes wrote:
[ ... ]
Do I have this wrong? Anyone see a problem with this picture?
What can we do to just upgrade in a safe fashion when we want to?
Two things
On Monday 11 June 2012 20:59 Chuck Swiger wrote:
Hi, Dave--
On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Dave Hayes wrote:
[ ... ]
Do I have this wrong? Anyone see a problem with this picture?
What can we do to just upgrade in a safe fashion when we want to?
Two things help tremendously:
#1: Have
On Jun 12, 2012 10:48 AM, H h...@hm.net.br wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2012 20:59 Chuck Swiger wrote:
Hi, Dave--
On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Dave Hayes wrote:
[ ... ]
Do I have this wrong? Anyone see a problem with this picture?
What can we do to just upgrade in a safe fashion when
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 07:10 Chris Rees wrote:
are essential for a desktop to work properly
of course the package collection needs then something similar to
portversion,
but not based on ports tree versions, in order to find available updates
who then wants to customize or
[ This probably should be redirected to freebsd-ports but I am not
subscribed so the anal mailer will likely reject such a submission ]
Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de writes:
Am 06.06.2012 um 20:59 schrieb Dave Hayes:
I believe this is the first time I've seen more documentation
Rainer Duffnerrai...@ultra-secure.de writes:
[..]
Personally, I don't need more frequent FreeBSD-releases but two or
maybe three ports-tree freezes per year would be good.
Perhaps not so much freezes per se, but if there are particular
dates at which the ports tree is known to
Adam Strohl adams-free...@ateamsystems.com writes:
There in lies the question -- why do you need to compile a port which
was just released? Is it a security thing or is it I want the latest
? I'm just curious (and totally uninterested in how this ranks in your
worse question list).
If I
Hi, Dave--
On Jun 11, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Dave Hayes wrote:
[ ... ]
Do I have this wrong? Anyone see a problem with this picture?
What can we do to just upgrade in a safe fashion when we want to?
Two things help tremendously:
#1: Have working backups. If you run into a problem, roll back the
On Jun 12, 2012, at 2:41 AM, grenville armitage wrote:
Rainer Duffnerrai...@ultra-secure.de writes:
[..]
Personally, I don't need more frequent FreeBSD-releases but two or
maybe three ports-tree freezes per year would be good.
Perhaps not so much freezes per se, but if there
Am Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:09:09 +0700
schrieb Adam Strohl adams-free...@ateamsystems.com:
I get the feeling people are updating their ports tree and then
recompiling/reinstalling everything just because and then are
complaining when one thing breaks (its the only thing I can think of).
Hi.
On 10 June 2012 11:12, Martin Sugioarto mar...@sugioarto.com wrote:
Am Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:09:09 +0700
schrieb Adam Strohl adams-free...@ateamsystems.com:
I get the feeling people are updating their ports tree and then
recompiling/reinstalling everything just because and then are
complaining
On 06/10/12 12:37, Chris Rees wrote:
On 10 June 2012 11:12, Martin Sugioarto mar...@sugioarto.com wrote:
Am Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:09:09 +0700
schrieb Adam Strohl adams-free...@ateamsystems.com:
I get the feeling people are updating their ports tree and then
recompiling/reinstalling everything
On 10 June 2012 11:51, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
On 06/10/12 12:37, Chris Rees wrote:
On 10 June 2012 11:12, Martin Sugioarto mar...@sugioarto.com wrote:
Am Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:09:09 +0700
schrieb Adam Strohl adams-free...@ateamsystems.com:
I get the feeling people are
Hi,
On 08 June 2012 13:34:46 Steve Franks wrote:
has been running 7.x for years, and shows no sign of giving out. Just
keep sticking new HDD's in periodically. For a server that you rarely
add new apps to, it's stellar. Mind you, it's probably chock full of
security holes due to it's age...
Am Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:37:09 +0100
schrieb Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org:
Er... people always test their commits. Sometimes edge cases will
creep in, such as the libreoffice failure which was due to different
configurations, but to suggest that the commit wasn't tested is quite
frankly
On 06/10/12 09:54, Martin Sugioarto wrote:
Am Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:37:09 +0100
schrieb Chris Reescr...@freebsd.org:
Er... people always test their commits. Sometimes edge cases will
creep in, such as the libreoffice failure which was due to different
configurations, but to suggest that the
John Merryweather Cooper john_m_coo...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 06/10/12 09:54, Martin Sugioarto wrote:
[...]
- It would be nice to have a mechanism that tells you that your perl,
mysql or whatever is not the default version anymore and you should
consider updating to the default
On 06/10/12 17:43, John Merryweather Cooper wrote:
On 06/10/12 09:54, Martin Sugioarto wrote:
Am Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:37:09 +0100
schrieb Chris Reescr...@freebsd.org:
Er... people always test their commits. Sometimes edge cases will
creep in, such as the libreoffice failure which was due to
On 10 June 2012 18:10, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
On 06/10/12 17:43, John Merryweather Cooper wrote:
On 06/10/12 09:54, Martin Sugioarto wrote:
Am Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:37:09 +0100
schrieb Chris Reescr...@freebsd.org:
Er... people always test their commits. Sometimes edge
On 06/10/12 19:20, Chris Rees wrote:
On 10 June 2012 18:10, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
On 06/10/12 17:43, John Merryweather Cooper wrote:
On 06/10/12 09:54, Martin Sugioarto wrote:
Am Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:37:09 +0100
schrieb Chris Reescr...@freebsd.org:
Er... people
O. Hartmann writes:
Among all the default problems with ports, libreoffice[1] adds to the
group of annoyances[2] at the moment. I don't know when I have seen
portmaster -ad run through successfully last time. I need more and
more -x options to exclude ports which fail to build.
On 06/09/12 06:45, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 6/9/2012 3:34, Steve Franks wrote:
Every time libjpeg or
perl or python bumps the rev, I have to explain to my boss that I
won't be using my computer for 48 hours.
Lucky man! We are off from some desktop services (like LibreOffice and
Firefox) for more
On 6/9/2012 14:50, O. Hartmann wrote:
Lucky man! We are off from some desktop services (like LibreOffice and
Firefox) for more than a week now!
Why did you update to begin with? Bug/security fix?
--
Adam Strohl
http://www.ateamsystems.com/
___
On 06/09/12 15:43, Adam Strohl wrote:
On 6/9/2012 14:50, O. Hartmann wrote:
Lucky man! We are off from some desktop services (like LibreOffice and
Firefox) for more than a week now!
Why did you update to begin with? Bug/security fix?
--
Adam Strohl
http://www.ateamsystems.com/
Well,
On 6/9/2012 21:04, O. Hartmann wrote:
Well, this is a good question. Unfortunately, I did an update of the
ports tree and PNG update rushed in. The information in UPDATING came a
in bit later, but since then several ports have been updated already -
and rendered some applications unuseable.
Adam Strohl wrote:
On 6/9/2012 3:34, Steve Franks wrote:
Every time libjpeg or
perl or python bumps the rev, I have to explain to my boss that I
won't be using my computer for 48 hours.
Why is this? And why are you updating every time there is a rev bump?
certainly the worse question
On 6/9/2012 21:36, H wrote:
why is there an update, would be a little bit better
My point was why do you need the update, and can't wait until its been
better vetted. The porters do the best they can but can't test everything.
but a real good question would be, why is there a not
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Pierre-Luc Drouin pldro...@pldrouin.net wrote:
For me it is the lack of support for suspend/resume on laptops. I don't
want to turn off my laptop when I am in the middle of doing something but
need to put the laptop aside. I love using FreeBSD on servers,
I think XOrg 7.2 or 7.3 or whatever was the straw that broke the
camel's back for me, but it's just an example. Every time libjpeg or
perl or python bumps the rev, I have to explain to my boss that I
won't be using my computer for 48 hours. You can say don't follow the
bleeding edge, but it seems
On 6/9/2012 3:34, Steve Franks wrote:
Every time libjpeg or
perl or python bumps the rev, I have to explain to my boss that I
won't be using my computer for 48 hours.
Why is this? And why are you updating every time there is a rev bump?
It almost sounds like you're recompiling everything
Phil Regnauld wrote:
David Magda (dmagda) writes:
On Jun 1, 2012, at 09:12, Phil Regnauld wrote:
* Gluster
For very large FSes, nothing beats it, especially now that 3.3
has been
released.
Isilon built their OneFS on top of FreeBSD, does that count? :)
Panasas too
David Magda wrote:
On Jun 1, 2012, at 21:03, Chris Nehren wrote:
You say your'e using ZVOLs but then recommend gluster for large
filesystems. I would like to take a moment to point out that one of
the
design goals of ZFS was to scale beyond the capabilities of current
hardware.
Am 06.06.2012 um 20:59 schrieb Dave Hayes:
I believe this is the first time I've seen more documentation labeled as
extraneous. :) I had thought to suggest an implementation by having a
simple pkg-option-desr file which describes the options and implications
in each port. Are you
In message 1805884.wjzbqif...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
Hi,
On 06 June 2012 0:42:47 Mark Andrews wrote:
In message 1541214.zfrdxxb...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
On 06.06.12 05:28, Erich wrote:
Why should a normal user continue to search for a tag when the
handbook is so clear on this? Erich
I continue to wonder, why are you searching for tags on the ports tree,
when you were told on a number of occasions that those who depend on
particular state
On Jun 6, 2012 3:38 AM, Erich erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 7:13:47 Mark Linimon wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:23:01PM +0700, Erich wrote:
But is this true for apache only or for the whole ports tree?
Entire tree.
my problem with this is that the
* O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de [2012-06-03 22:55 +0200]:
... I spent now two complete days watching my boxes updating their
ports. Several ports do not compile anymore (inkscape, libreoffice,
libxul, to name some of the very hurting ones!).
Do you have graphics/libwpg01 installed?
On 06/06/12 10:41, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote:
* O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de [2012-06-03 22:55 +0200]:
... I spent now two complete days watching my boxes updating their
ports. Several ports do not compile anymore (inkscape, libreoffice,
libxul, to name some of the very hurting
Hi,
let me rite the answer on top before my mouse scrolling down.
I am fully aware of what you are writing. I am saying this from the point of
view people have when they start with FreeBSD.
This little help would make them feel much much saver.
I know that it would not change much in real
Hi,
On 06 June 2012 8:48:10 Chris Rees wrote:
On Jun 6, 2012 3:38 AM, Erich erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
No it doesn't. It states clearly that you shouldn't use tags unless you
know what you are doing, as several of us have explained more than once.
is my English really this bad?
On 6 June 2012 14:12, Erich erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
Hi,
On 06 June 2012 8:48:10 Chris Rees wrote:
On Jun 6, 2012 3:38 AM, Erich erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
No it doesn't. It states clearly that you shouldn't use tags unless you
know what you are doing, as several of us
Daniel Kalchev dan...@digsys.bg writes:
On 04.06.12 22:32, Dave Hayes wrote:
That's a fair position. Perhaps it would not be too much trouble to add
this one idea to optionsng: a more info field on each option knob
which may be filled in by a port maintainer.
The pkg-descr file in the port
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Mark Linimon wrote:
It's not particularly easy to see this on cvsweb. But let's take a look
at a random Mk/bsd.*.mk file via 'cvs log':
RCS file: /home/FreeBSD/pcvs/ports/Mk/bsd.apache.mk,v
Working file: bsd.apache.mk
head: 1.36
branch:
locks: strict
access list:
On 06/07/2012 00:16, Chris Rees wrote:
On 6 June 2012 14:12, Ericherichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
[..]
is my English really this bad?
From the handbook:
'. In particular, use only tag=. for the ports-* collections.'
Your English is fine, but being told to use tag=. !=
I, for one, appreciate you changing the subject because I didn't know
this either and its an important function in my use case where point
in time snapshots are important to the architects and ops folks!
On 6/6/12, grenville armitage garmit...@swin.edu.au wrote:
On 06/07/2012 00:16, Chris Rees
On 6 Jun 2012, at 23:10, grenville armitage garmit...@swin.edu.au wrote:
On 06/07/2012 00:16, Chris Rees wrote:
On 6 June 2012 14:12, Ericherichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
[..]
is my English really this bad?
From the handbook:
'. In particular, use only tag=. for the
Hi,
On 06 June 2012 17:40:28 Rick Miller wrote:
I, for one, appreciate you changing the subject because I didn't know
this either and its an important function in my use case where point
in time snapshots are important to the architects and ops folks!
and it should be mentioned in the hand
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 15:33:16 Mark Andrews wrote:
In message 2490439.ec638ti...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 12:48:20 Mark Andrews wrote:
In message 3506767.fvm2kmt...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
On 05 June 2012 11:24:25 Mark Andrews wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 12:18:33PM +0700, Erich wrote:
I did not know this. Do you have a link for this? I never read about it.
The EOL announcements have them. I don't think the release announcements
do, however.
mcl
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On 04.06.12 22:32, Dave Hayes wrote:
Chris Nehrenapeiron+freebsd-sta...@isuckatdomains.net writes:
The descriptions of the options assume the admin is familiar with the
software they're installing. I do not think it is the FreeBSD Project's
purview to document every option for every port. At
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not
branched.
If you create a branch, you must create a tag for that branch.
However, you can create
On 05.06.12 07:33, Zane C. B-H. wrote:
[on Exchange wiping devices]
From a enterprise perspective, it makes sense. Lets say a device goes
missing, it allows one to wipe it the next time it calls home.
This is supposed to be handled by the device management software. Not by
your e-mail
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 1:01:37 Mark Linimon wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 12:18:33PM +0700, Erich wrote:
I did not know this. Do you have a link for this? I never read about it.
The EOL announcements have them. I don't think the release announcements
do, however.
this is the problem. I
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not
branched.
If you create a branch, you must
On Jun 5, 2012 3:07 AM, Erich erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 11:24:25 Mark Andrews wrote:
Version tagging is just a convient way to get a snapshot at a
particular point in time unless you create branches that are them
we do not ask for more. There should be
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:23:01PM +0700, Erich wrote:
But is this true for apache only or for the whole ports tree?
Entire tree.
mcl
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Hi,
On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not
branched.
If you create a branch, you must
O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
2) Disk and network I/O issues under load. We realized that FreeBSD has
some issues in multithreaded environments. Even on 6/12 or 12/24
core/thread systems, under heavy load (especially network and CPU load),
disk I/O was (is?) poor. This is
In message 1541214.zfrdxxb...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/,
Mark Linimon lini...@lonesome.com wrote:
The current status is that we support 8.x and 9.x well. Ports support
for 7.x is starting to fade over time as new upstream releases rely
on newer APIs. 6.x went EOL 11/30/2010 and we no longer claim to
support it in ports.
FWIW ... In fact, I
Look at the comment of the maintainer of LibreOffice ...
btw I tested and libreoffice is still working as expected.
Most of the time the libreoffice failures is from people tuning their system
without knowing the impact/risk of doing such, for example building some c++
libraries with g++47
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 20:57:52 +0200, Thomas David Rivers
riv...@dignus.com wrote:
We used to have FreeBSD exclusively on desktops...
Now, we have migrated to other desktops (mac) with FreeBSD running
the build and file server...
Why?
Because - the mac updates itself! No pain, no
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag),
only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not
branched.
If you create a branch, you must
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 7:13:47 Mark Linimon wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:23:01PM +0700, Erich wrote:
But is this true for apache only or for the whole ports tree?
Entire tree.
my problem with this is that the documentation states something very different:
From the handbook at the
Hi,
On 06 June 2012 0:42:47 Mark Andrews wrote:
In message 1541214.zfrdxxb...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 1:09:50 Mark Linimon wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote:
All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid
In message 3851080.jqjobqx...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
yes, you miss a very simple thing. Updated this morning your ports
tree. Your client asks for something for Monday morning for which
you need now a program which needs some kind of PNG but you did not
install it.
It seems to me that
On 04/06/2012 00:30, Mark Andrews wrote:
The ports system defaults are to use a common build/runtime tree
but at the cost of a little more disk space each major application
could have its own build/runtime tree. This is a tradeoff. Most
of the time having a shared set of libraries is a win,
Mark Linimon lini...@lonesome.com writes:
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:24:11PM -0700, Dave Hayes wrote:
I see features and pkgng and things being offered up as solutions...
these are all well and good, but in my opinion more comprehensive
documentation and support in these areas would do more
On 03.06.12 07:24, Erich wrote:
isn't this what I just suggested to be done by the team? Give the ports tree a
new version number and people can fall back to this then.
Isn't this solution too simple to be done?
As was mentioned earlier in this discussion, by virtue of the ports tree
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Daniel Kalchev dan...@digsys.bg wrote:
On 03.06.12 07:24, Erich wrote:
isn't this what I just suggested to be done by the team? Give the ports
tree a new version number and people can fall back to this then.
Isn't this solution too simple to be done?
As was
On Jun 4, 2012 9:50 AM, Dave Hayes d...@jetcafe.org wrote:
Mark Linimon lini...@lonesome.com writes:
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:24:11PM -0700, Dave Hayes wrote:
I see features and pkgng and things being offered up as solutions...
these are all well and good, but in my opinion more
On 04.06.12 05:24, Dave Hayes wrote:
Anyway, given my workload, it will probably take me a man week to get
two virtualized test servers. Someone I know with a vmware gui and
windows is doing this in 15 minutes (and that's being careful). Just
my $0.02.
You are unfortunately comparing
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:03:26AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
Dear All ,
There is a thread
Why Are You Using FreeBSD ?
Hello,
I'm using FreeBSD for most of my tasks and servers and i think it's great, but
this things could be improved:
- Good FUSE support
-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
sta...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Kalchev
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:42 AM
I really see no reason why your 'mail or calendaring server'
should be able to wipe your devices.. This is the
On 3 June 2012 21:55, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
On 06/03/12 15:29, Erich wrote:
Hi,
On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote:
On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote:
What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very simple.
Is it just a few people who run
On 04.06.12 18:04, xenophon\+freebsd wrote:
-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
sta...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Kalchev
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:42 AM
I really see no reason why your 'mail or calendaring server'
should be
Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com writes:
On Jun 4, 2012 9:50 AM, Dave Hayes d...@jetcafe.org wrote:
Mark Linimon lini...@lonesome.com writes:
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:24:11PM -0700, Dave Hayes wrote:
I see features and pkgng and things being offered up as solutions...
these are all well and
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 11:41:30 -0700 , Dave Hayes wrote:
Yes there is...my point. :) Perhaps I was unclear. Optionsng is likely a
fine project. However, it does not include the idea of extra
documentation on the user selectable options provided to a port.
Often when building a port I am
Chris Nehren apeiron+freebsd-sta...@isuckatdomains.net writes:
The descriptions of the options assume the admin is familiar with the
software they're installing. I do not think it is the FreeBSD Project's
purview to document every option for every port. At the very least it'd
take quite a lot
On 06/04/12 17:24, Chris Rees wrote:
On 3 June 2012 21:55, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
On 06/03/12 15:29, Erich wrote:
Hi,
On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote:
On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote:
What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very
Hi,
On 04 June 2012 17:24:31 Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 10:55:37PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote:
On 06/03/12 15:29, Erich wrote:
And if a port build is broken then the maintainer needs to fix it, that
is the solution.
Look at the comment of the maintainer of
On 04 June 2012 16:24:56 Chris Rees wrote:
On 3 June 2012 21:55, O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
On 06/03/12 15:29, Erich wrote:
Hi,
On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote:
On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote:
What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is
In message 4fcd23fe.20...@zedat.fu-berlin.de, O. Hartmann writes:
Well, and repeatedly (no offense!) I will point out in this case, that I
was FORCED having the latest software by the ports system!
That it a difference in having running FreeBSD CURRENT on my own risk,
or FreeBSD-STABLE due to
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 11:24:25 Mark Andrews wrote:
Version tagging is just a convient way to get a snapshot at a
particular point in time unless you create branches that are them
we do not ask for more. There should be only one difference to a snapshot. As
snapshot has a date. No matter in
In message 3506767.fvm2kmt...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 11:24:25 Mark Andrews wrote:
Version tagging is just a convient way to get a snapshot at a
particular point in time unless you create branches that are them
we do not ask for more. There should be
One doesn't have to live at the bleeding edge with ports if one
doesn't want to even when compiling. One can live a day, a week,
a month behind the bleeding edge and allow other to hit problems
and report them.
To be pedantic, there's a lot of difference between reporting problems,
and
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:49:45 +0300
Daniel Kalchev dan...@digsys.bg wrote:
On 04.06.12 18:04, xenophon\+freebsd wrote:
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From: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
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Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 12:48:20 Mark Andrews wrote:
In message 3506767.fvm2kmt...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
On 05 June 2012 11:24:25 Mark Andrews wrote:
It's already there. If you want the ports as of FreeBSD 4.x EOL
then the tag is RELEASE_4_EOL. If you want ports as of
In message 2490439.ec638ti...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
Hi,
On 05 June 2012 12:48:20 Mark Andrews wrote:
In message 3506767.fvm2kmt...@x220.ovitrap.com, Erich writes:
On 05 June 2012 11:24:25 Mark Andrews wrote:
It's already there. If you want the ports as of
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