on 27/01/2010 22:26 Tommi Lätti said the following:
Seems that the performance is indeed atrocious. I recently (like 2
days ago) had to rescue my zfs pool under opensolaris to spare disks.
The performance under OpenSol was what I was expecting, 70MB/s reading
and writing at the same time.
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:45:10 +0200 Dan Naumov wrote:
This discussion made me have a look at my 2tb WD Green disks...
So did I. Hm, it's a nice feature:
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Model Family: Western Digital RE2-GP family
Device Model: WDC WD1000FYPS-01ZKB0
Firmware Version: 02.01B01
User Capacity:1
On 2010-01-27 00:15, Dan Naumov wrote:
Can anyone confirm that using the WDIDLE3 utility on the 2TB WD20EADS
discs will not cause any issues if these disks are part of a ZFS
mirror pool? I do have backups of data, but I would rather not spend
the time rebuilding the entire system and restoring
Seems that the performance is indeed atrocious. I recently (like 2
days ago) had to rescue my zfs pool under opensolaris to spare disks.
The performance under OpenSol was what I was expecting, 70MB/s reading
and writing at the same time.
Now that I'm restoring the stuff back under FreeBSD 8.0-p2
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:25:58PM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote:
On 2010-01-27 00:15, Dan Naumov wrote:
Sorry to bump into this thread so late, but for some of my servers I
have been using a patch for atacontrol, to turn the APM features of the
disk(s) off, for a long time. This is mostly
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:24:49 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick
free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote about Re: immense delayed write to file
system (ZFS and UFS2), performance issues:
JC So which drive models above are experiencing a continual increase in
JC SMART attribute 193 (Load Cycle Count)? My guess
:I'm experiencing the same thing, except in my case it's most noticeable
:when writing to a USB flash drive with a FAT32 filesystem. It slows the
:entire system down, even if the data being written is coming from cache
:or a memory file system.
:
:I don't know if it's related. I'm running
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:28:58 +0100
Morgan Wesström freebsd-questi...@pp.dyndns.biz wrote:
Garrett Moore wrote:
The drives being discussed in my related thread (regarding poor
performance) are all WD Green drives. I have used wdidle3 to set
all of my drive timeouts to 5 minutes. I'll see
You're welcome. I just feel as bad for you as for everyone else who
has bought these obviously Windoze optimized harddrives. Unfortunately
neither wdidle3 nor an updated firmware is available or functioning on
the latest models in the Green series. At least that's what I've read
from other
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:45:10 +0200
Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote:
The disks are of exact same model and look to be same firmware. Should
I be worried that the newer disk has, in 136 hours reached a higher
Load Cycle count twice as big as on the disk thats 5253 hours old?
There's a
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
Always - 136
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 199 199 000 Old_age
Always - 5908
The disks are of exact same model and look to be same firmware. Should
I be worried that the newer disk has, in
Hi--
On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Dan Naumov wrote:
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age
Always - 136
193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032 199 199 000Old_age
Always - 5908
The disks are of exact same model and look to be same
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:53:20 +0900 Tommi Lätti s...@iki.fi wrote about
Re: immense delayed write to file system (ZFS and UFS2), performance
issues:
TL Well AFAIK WD certifies that there's no extra risk involved unless you
TL go over 300.000 park cycles. On the other hand, my 9 month 1.5tb green
Can anyone confirm that using the WDIDLE3 utility on the 2TB WD20EADS
discs will not cause any issues if these disks are part of a ZFS
mirror pool? I do have backups of data, but I would rather not spend
the time rebuilding the entire system and restoring enormous amounts
of data over a 100mbit
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 01:15:17AM +0200, Dan Naumov wrote:
Can anyone confirm that using the WDIDLE3 utility on the 2TB WD20EADS
discs will not cause any issues if these disks are part of a ZFS
mirror pool? I do have backups of data, but I would rather not spend
the time rebuilding the entire
Adrian Wontroba wrote:
: How about using the write every 5 seconds python script posted earlier
: in this thread by e...@tefre.com? Works nicely for me and stops the load
: cycle count increase.
I have a WD2003FYPS sitting in a system, to be used for testing. Bought it
just before this thread
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Now I neither have to worry about premature death of my disks, nor do
I have to endure the loud clicking noises (I have a NAS with these in
my living room)!
If either of you (or both) want me to Paypal you money for a beer,
send me details offlist :)
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I have a WD2003FYPS sitting in a system, to be used for testing. Bought it
just before this thread started, and here's what it looks like right now:
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always -
508
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000Old_age
Dan Naumov wrote:
: This drive is sitting, unused, with no filesystem, and I've performed
: approximately zero writes to the disk.
:
: Having a script kick off and write to a disk will help so long as that
: disk is writable; if it's being used as a hot spare in a raidz array, it's
: not going to
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 07:49:05PM -0500, Damian Gerow wrote:
Specific cases aside, writing to the FS is a workaround to a rather
inconvenient issue. I, too, would like to see if the problem is fixed, not
avoided, by using wdidle -- but I suspect I'll have to contact WD myself to
get that
Here's what I got from one of my 2TB WD green drives. This one
is Firmware 01.00A01. Load_Cycle_Count is 26... seems under
control.
It gets hit with a lot of activity separated by a lot of time
(several minutes to several hours), depending on what is going on.
The box is
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:12:01 -0500 Damian Gerow dge...@afflictions.org
wrote about Re: immense delayed write to file system (ZFS and UFS2),
performance issues:
DG Adrian Wontroba wrote:
DG Having a script kick off and write to a disk will help so long as that
DG disk is writable; if it's being
On 01/18/10 22:13, O. Hartmann wrote:
Symptome: All boxes have ZFS and UFS2 filesystems. Since two weeks or
so, sometimes the I/O performance drops massively when doing 'svn
update', 'make world' or even 'make kernel'. It doesn't matter what
memory and how many cpu the box has, it get stuck for
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:41:53 -0500 Garrett Moore garrettmo...@gmail.com
wrote about Re: immense delayed write to file system (ZFS and UFS2),
performance issues:
GM The drives being discussed in my related thread (regarding poor
GM performance) are all WD Green drives. I have used wdidle3 to set
Garrett Moore wrote:
The drives being discussed in my related thread (regarding poor performance)
are all WD Green drives. I have used wdidle3 to set all of my drive timeouts
to 5 minutes. I'll see what sort of difference this makes for performance.
Even if it makes no difference to
2010/1/18 Morgan Wesström freebsd-questi...@pp.dyndns.biz
O. Hartmann wrote:
I realise a strange behaviour of several FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE/amd64 boxes.
All boxes have the most recent STABLE. One box is a UP system, two
others SMP boxes, one with a Q6600 4-core, another XEON with 2x 4-cores
Gerrit Kühn wrote:
Thanks for bringing up this topic here. I have drives showing up close to
80 load cycle counts here. Guess it's time for that fix... :-|
Just note that the utility is officially for WD's Raid Edition GP drives
and not for the regular consumer models although some users
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:28:58AM +0100, Morgan Wesström wrote:
Garrett Moore wrote:
The drives being discussed in my related thread (regarding poor performance)
are all WD Green drives. I have used wdidle3 to set all of my drive timeouts
to 5 minutes. I'll see what sort of difference this
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:57:36 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick
free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote about Re: immense delayed write to file
system (ZFS and UFS2), performance issues:
JC If you want a consumer-edition drive that's better tuned for server
JC work, you should really be looking at the WD Caviar Black
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
No offence intended by this statement, but: the Green drives are
specifically intended for workstations. I don't believe in the whole
segregation of drive model thing, but the fact of the matter is, the
Green drives are variable-RPM and have numerous firmware-level
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:07:24AM +0100, Gerrit Kühn wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:57:36 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick
free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote about Re: immense delayed write to file
system (ZFS and UFS2), performance issues:
JC If you want a consumer-edition drive that's better tuned
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:24:49 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick
free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote about Re: immense delayed write to file
system (ZFS and UFS2), performance issues:
JC JC If you want a consumer-edition drive that's better tuned for
JC JC server work, you should really be looking at the WD
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 09:16:41AM +0100, Gerrit K?hn wrote:
Thanks for bringing up this topic here. I have drives showing up close to
80 load cycle counts here. Guess it's time for that fix... :-|
Device Model: WDC WD10EACS-00ZJB0
Firmware Version: 01.01B01
Serial Number:
Emil Mikulic wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 09:16:41AM +0100, Gerrit K?hn wrote:
Thanks for bringing up this topic here. I have drives showing up close to
80 load cycle counts here. Guess it's time for that fix... :-|
Device Model: WDC WD10EACS-00ZJB0
Firmware Version: 01.01B01
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:24:49AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
WD2001FAAS - WD Caviar Black, 2TB, 64MB, 7200rpm
Do you mean WD2001FASS? I can't find a WD2001FAAS.
Thanks,
Gary
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:44:59AM -0500, Gary Palmer wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:24:49AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
WD2001FAAS - WD Caviar Black, 2TB, 64MB, 7200rpm
Do you mean WD2001FASS? I can't find a WD2001FAAS.
Yup, typo -- bound to be at least one given the amount of data
Hi,
it seems that I'm not experiencing this at all...
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
WD10EACS - WD Caviar Green, 1TB, 16MB, variable rpm
have one (external HDD, always powered on)
Model = WDC WD10EAVS-00D7B1
Firmware Version = 01.01A01
Power_On_Hours 5757
Power_Cycle_Count 75
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Gerrit Kühn wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:24:49 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick
free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote about Re: immense delayed write to file
system (ZFS and UFS2), performance issues:
JC JC If you want a consumer-edition drive that's better tuned for
JC JC server work
Morgan Wesström wrote:
Garrett Moore wrote:
The drives being discussed in my related thread (regarding poor performance)
are all WD Green drives. I have used wdidle3 to set all of my drive timeouts
to 5 minutes. I'll see what sort of difference this makes for performance.
Even if it makes no
2010/1/19 Daniel O'Connor docon...@gsoft.com.au
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Morgan Wesström wrote:
The disks involved don't happen to be Western Digital Green Power
disks, do they? The Intelli-Park function in these disks are wrecking
havoc with I/O in Linux-land at least, causing massive stalls
On 01/18/10 21:34, � wrote:
O. Hartmann wrote:
I realise a strange behaviour of several FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE/amd64 boxes.
All boxes have the most recent STABLE. One box is a UP system, two
others SMP boxes, one with a Q6600 4-core, another XEON with 2x 4-cores
(Dell Poweredge III).
Symptome: All
On 01/19/10 10:09, krad wrote:
2010/1/18 Morgan Wesstr�mfreebsd-questi...@pp.dyndns.biz
O. Hartmann wrote:
I realise a strange behaviour of several FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE/amd64 boxes.
All boxes have the most recent STABLE. One box is a UP system, two
others SMP boxes, one with a Q6600 4-core,
--On Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:16 AM +0100 O. Hartmann
ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
This could end in a bad situation, where one process writes a files, say
with some arbitrary stuff and another successing process is intended to
read this file. even if the processes are run
I realise a strange behaviour of several FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE/amd64 boxes.
All boxes have the most recent STABLE. One box is a UP system, two
others SMP boxes, one with a Q6600 4-core, another XEON with 2x 4-cores
(Dell Poweredge III).
Symptome: All boxes have ZFS and UFS2 filesystems. Since
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:13:52PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote:
I realise a strange behaviour of several FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE/amd64
boxes. All boxes have the most recent STABLE. One box is a UP
system, two others SMP boxes, one with a Q6600 4-core, another XEON
with 2x 4-cores (Dell Poweredge III).
O. Hartmann wrote:
I realise a strange behaviour of several FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE/amd64 boxes.
All boxes have the most recent STABLE. One box is a UP system, two
others SMP boxes, one with a Q6600 4-core, another XEON with 2x 4-cores
(Dell Poweredge III).
Symptome: All boxes have ZFS and UFS2
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Morgan Wesström wrote:
The disks involved don't happen to be Western Digital Green Power
disks, do they? The Intelli-Park function in these disks are wrecking
havoc with I/O in Linux-land at least, causing massive stalls and
iowait through the roof during the 25-30 seconds
The drives being discussed in my related thread (regarding poor performance)
are all WD Green drives. I have used wdidle3 to set all of my drive timeouts
to 5 minutes. I'll see what sort of difference this makes for performance.
Even if it makes no difference to performance, thank you for
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Garrett Moore wrote:
The drives being discussed in my related thread (regarding poor
performance) are all WD Green drives. I have used wdidle3 to set all
of my drive timeouts to 5 minutes. I'll see what sort of difference
this makes for performance.
Even if it makes no
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