Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox Mesh Network Simulator

2012-06-22 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/20/2012 04:16 PM, Markus Sabadello wrote: I've been told though that olsr is still the way to go for large networks. Kind of. If the mesh nodes pushing the packets have a fair amount of RAM olsrd is okay. The thing about that particular

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox Mesh Network Simulator

2012-06-22 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/20/2012 10:12 AM, Dave Taht wrote: There are plenty of mesh protocols available - 802.11s, batman, olsr, and my own fav babel. 802.11s operates at layer 2, is limited to 32 There are over 70 mesh routing protocols; not all of them have been

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox Mesh Network Simulator

2012-06-22 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/20/2012 02:13 PM, John Gilmore wrote: Internet while the problem is happening, to debug it. Many, many OLPC mesh problems occurred in the field which could not be replicated in the lab, which made them 10x or 100x harder to fix. This meant

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox Mesh Network Simulator

2012-06-22 Thread Sam Hartman
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the security implications of this discussion. I think that's in part because goals like censorship-resistant-connectivity and privacy seem in conflict. To the best of my understanding these routing protocols have not been designed with the goal of

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox Mesh Network Simulator

2012-06-22 Thread Ben Mendis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sam, I am one of the developers of Project Byzantium and heard about this discussion from The Doctor. Freedombox is not our project so we have no authority to direct which way the project goes, but we have done some significant research and

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FBx Configuration Management

2012-06-22 Thread Nick M. Daly
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:16:32 -0400 (EDT), bnewb...@robocracy.org wrote: General purpose Configuration Management seems to be a crucial component of the FreedomBox software stack/distribution. It needs to be secure, accessible (elegant user experience for diverse userbase), reliable,