Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > >>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Antony Gordon wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think the best solution would probably be two setup programs. A quick >>> setup like Jim wants and then a more advanced setup

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > So we boot the live CD with a message to the effect of, "Welcome to the live > environment! Type "install" to install FreeDOS on your system." and then the > user can type install (or install /a or advanced mode)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

Hi Mateusz and Michael, the installer should NOT try to be more clever or automatic than we can SAFELY make that. I disagree with Mateusz about the "simply give me a button to destroy my harddisk contents and put DOS on it" because that is too destructive. Default should be to ADD DOS to an

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

Hi! > Disc boots: > > Offers to install or quit. What happens if you select "install"? > (note: if DOS is already installed, setup does no “launch”. > The installer does this specifically for the disc to be used for recovery and > whatnot. > What makes a better recovery disc than a live

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

Also, what if the user has a partition which is utilized by another OS but isn't crucial? (Linux swap comes to mind.) Yes, they can easily set it back up again if they trash it with their FreeDOS installing, but in a perfect world the installer would check the partition signatures to see if

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 18, 2015, at 4:08 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Mateusz and Michael, > > the installer should NOT try to be more clever or automatic > than we can SAFELY make that. I disagree with Mateusz about > the "simply give me a button to destroy my harddisk contents > and

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 18, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > > Also, what if the user has a partition which is utilized by another OS > but isn't crucial? (Linux swap comes to mind.) Yes, they can easily set > it back up again if they trash it with their FreeDOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 18, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > > So we boot the live CD with a message to the effect of, "Welcome to the live > environment! Type "install" to install FreeDOS on your system." and then the > user can type install (or install /a or advanced

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

I think this is a late thing, sorry for that. Op 16 sep. 2015 11:17 schreef "Jerome Shidel" : > > > On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > >> Could we just give the user the option? > > > I could. But, Jim wants super simple. So, I

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

I agree with antony.Two installers,which can be downloaded,or something,to setup FDOS 1.2.Some users need an advanced setup.Some users willjust use the easy installer.So,perhaps two different installers would be a great idea.I mean,I prefer advanced installations,so I have more power/control over

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

There could be a secret (e.g. not listed anywhere on the installer screens) key or key combination (F8 or shift-F8 perhaps?) which plops the user into /Advanced Mode/ (put on sunglasses and rev engine here) which would allow all the extra choices, but wouldn't clutter the interface for average

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 17, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > > There could be a secret (e.g. not listed anywhere on the installer screens) > key or key combination (F8 or shift-F8 perhaps?) which plops the user into > Advanced Mode (put on sunglasses and rev engine here)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

Alright,because I haven't programmed anythig for the FD 1.2 distro yet,and I'm on the development team. On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > > On Sep 17, 2015, at 5:45 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU < > jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org> wrote: > > > > YES!PLEASE!I

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

YES!PLEASE!I think we found ourselves a solution.Oh,and is there anything to be programmed?I haven't been ale to add anything yet... On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > There could be a secret (e.g. not listed anywhere on the installer > screens)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 17, 2015, at 5:45 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU > wrote: > > YES!PLEASE!I think we found ourselves a solution. Only, if Jim gives the OK. > Oh,and is there anything to be programmed?I haven't been ale to add anything > yet… I can’t think of anything at present.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

Perfect! A command line switch is efficient and effective. On 9/17/2015 6:12 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> On Sep 17, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Mercury Thirteen >> wrote: >> >> There could be a secret (e.g. not listed anywhere on the installer screens) >> key or key

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

As far as I'm concerned, I agree with Jim on that one. Creating a super-power installer is pointless - it will take months to release (if it happens at all), while what I personally need is just an intro screen that warns me about all my disk going to be flushed, some 'OK' button so I give it

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > > Could we just give the user the option? I could. But, Jim wants super simple. So, I guess I will have to see if he wants it to ask or not. But, I am really thinking purge the FDOS dir and install new

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

Hi, Unlike MS-DOS proper, FreeDOS comes with custom configuration files to optimize for different things, I have my personal opinion on this, but I digress. Given that the user may have modified the configuration files and there is no easy way to merge the changes of a vanilla FreeDOS config to a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

Hi guys, Unlike MS-DOS proper, FreeDOS comes with custom configuration files to optimize for different things, I have my personal opinion on this, but I digress. Given that the user may have modified the configuration files and there is no easy way to merge the changes of a vanilla FreeDOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

I prefer as many advanced options as possible.I keep a backup of my ENTIRE network in FreeDOS (I'm funny like that,I guess.FreeDOS can't be affected by windows viruses.).So if data were to be erased,I would have a mental breakdown (In a sarcastic sense.).So,yeah. On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:39 AM,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

Hi, I think the best solution would probably be two setup programs. A quick setup like Jim wants and then a more advanced setup that provides all the advanced tools, disk image creation that more technical users would want. Simple version is the batch file, advanced version is C (or some other

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi, plenty of interesting discussion points in this thread and in the > metados thread (combining both topics as they are both about distros). > > * I agree with Joe that DOS should not overwrite anything by default, >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > Hi, > > Unlike MS-DOS proper, FreeDOS comes with custom configuration files to > optimize for different things, I have my personal opinion on this, but I > digress. Given that the user may have modified the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

Hi! >> * for the same reason, there could be an option to just RENAME the >> old DOS directory instead of moving the contents into a zip file, >> as suggested by Mercury. > > And if there is already an FDOS.OLD? :-) As with your ZIP solution: In that case, rename to another name, such as

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > Hi, > > I think the best solution would probably be two setup programs. A quick setup > like Jim wants and then a more advanced setup that provides all the advanced > tools, disk image creation that more technical

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! > >>> * for the same reason, there could be an option to just RENAME the >>> old DOS directory instead of moving the contents into a zip file, >>> as suggested by Mercury. >> >> And if there is already an

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

BTW, thank you all for your comments on this topic. I do appreciate EACH and EVERY one of them. Also, I hope I do not upset any of you with my slightly odd sense of humor. -- Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

Could we just give the user the option? Also, you could call the backup FDOS folder /fdos.old/ a'la Windows and its /windows.old/ directory. At least that way some folks would know what it's for when they see it again months down the road. On 9/15/2015 8:53 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: The

[Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

The installer is going well and is about 50% done. But, I have two questions. Situation: User is doing an upgrade install from FD1.1. FDI already prompts to backup. Then will backup config files and the c:\FDOS directory. 1) should FDI purge the c:\fdos directory before it installs the new