Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

>From what I was reading,I might have a problem (And potentially other users as well).Back in the FD 1.1 distro,I had my install directory as C:\SYSTEM\.When the installation finished,it would be C:\SYSTEM\BIN.If the installation is hard coded to install at C:\FDOS,users may end up having to EDIT

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

Hi Jayden, as far as I am concerned, the installer should NOT backup the entire drive - only the DOS directory which would get overwritten, plus any (config, kernel) files in the root directory that gets overwritten plus maybe the boot sector. As far as installing and updating individual

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 7:40 AM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU > wrote: > > From what I was reading,I might have a problem (And potentially other users > as well).Back in the FD 1.1 distro,I had my install directory as > C:\SYSTEM\.When the installation finished,it would be

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

What about the user's other data?Such as documents,extra programs,etc.?Are we going to assume they already backed it up? On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Jayden, > > as far as I am concerned, the installer should NOT backup > the entire drive - only

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jayden, > > as far as I am concerned, the installer should NOT backup > the entire drive - only the DOS directory which would get > overwritten, plus any (config, kernel) files in the root > directory that gets

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

Should we add a backup utility to the UTILS package?Like Microsoft's BACKUP command?So if the user wanted to backup everything (A command line option could be invoked to backup packages).I am not sure if we already have one,it has been a while since I ran a full installation on FreeDOS. On Thu,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 9:58 AM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU > wrote: > > Should we add a backup utility to the UTILS package?Like Microsoft's BACKUP > command?So if the user wanted to backup everything (A command line option > could be invoked to backup packages).I am not

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 12:00, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Unzip seems to work fine for the packages on the FreeDOS 1.1 CD. (excluding > JEMMEX, which has some > attribute issues) > I’m not sure what you mean by “too many details” ? Are you able to uninstall cleanly a package that you simply unzip?

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 3:07 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 10/11/2015 20:27, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> FDI is done to the point that Jim requested. When the packages for >> version 1.2 are ready, it could be deployed mostly as-is for the normal >> basic/standard install

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 13:34, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> Just FYI, %DOSDIR% will be C:\FDOS in basic/normal mode. At some point, >> whenI get around to writing vask in V8, advanced mode will allow setting a >> different target

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 18:19, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > I will probably add a pre-built floppy image to my download server > (http://up.lod.bz) > at some point. That would be awesome. > If FDI uses FDINST remove, how will it be able to tell if it failed to remove > a package because of an error or

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 18:19, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> I will probably add a pre-built floppy image to my download server >> (http://up.lod.bz) >> at some point. > > That would be awesome. > >> If FDI uses FDINST remove,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 17:23, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Converted FDI to use a single package for both binary and sources and > to use Mateusz’s all_cd.iso as the layout for packages and to use > FDINST instead of unzip. Sounds cool! So if I slap your boot floppy inside all_cd.iso's, we should end

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 17:23, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> Converted FDI to use a single package for both binary and sources and >> to use Mateusz’s all_cd.iso as the layout for packages and to use >> FDINST instead of unzip. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 13:34, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Just FYI, %DOSDIR% will be C:\FDOS in basic/normal mode. At some point, > whenI get around to writing vask in V8, advanced mode will allow setting a > different target for the install. Having a hardcoded location is fine, I guess... Although I,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

Converted FDI to use a single package for both binary and sources and to use Mateusz’s all_cd.iso as the layout for packages and to use FDINST instead of unzip. base package list was easy, just added all packages in the \BASE dir. no idea what to put in the “all” package list. However, there

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 12:52, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > I may be wrong, but it appears that the original FreeDOS 1.1 packages > include “deployed” versions of the packages that include all the data to > do what your asking. That's not the case. Only LSM files are provided. The listing of actually

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 6:24 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 12:00, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> Unzip seems to work fine for the packages on the FreeDOS 1.1 CD. (excluding >> JEMMEX, which has some >> attribute issues) >> I’m not sure what you mean by “too many

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 7:11 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 12:52, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> I may be wrong, but it appears that the original FreeDOS 1.1 packages >> include “deployed” versions of the packages that include all the data to >> do what your asking.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 19:25, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > It seems kind time consuming for the FDI to run through every installed > package with > "FDINST remove” prior to doing an install. What do you mean by "time consuming" ? FDINST REMOVE won't do anything if the package is not installed - it will

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 19:25, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> It seems kind time consuming for the FDI to run through every installed >> package with >> "FDINST remove” prior to doing an install. > > What do you mean by "time

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

On 11/11/2015 20:09, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> What do you mean by "time consuming" ? FDINST REMOVE won't do anything >> if the package is not installed - it will execute only a check >> determining whether or not said package is already installed. This is >> something that needs to be done

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

I see the problem - when you move the %DOSDIR% directory away (or backup it), you loose all meta information about potentially installed packages. In fact I wonder if there is a point in trying to solve such cases - after all, if the user has some packages installed, then he doesn't need the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > I see the problem - when you move the %DOSDIR% directory away (or backup > it), you loose all meta information about potentially installed packages. > > In fact I wonder if there is a point in trying to solve such cases

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

OK, I put the latest version of the FDI boot floppy image up on my download server. http://up.lod.bz/FDI Highly experimental still. So, I recommend only running it a virtual machine or on a test machine. NOTE: At any point that it is waiting for user input, CTRL-C will bring up a option box

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

Oh, one more thing on the FDI floppy image. If you want to customize what packages are in the “ALL Packages”, just update the A:\FDSETUP\SETUP\FDALLB.LST text file to include them. --