[Freedos-devel] V8Power Tools

2015-08-14 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Greetings All, I wanted to let you all know, that I have recently begun developing V8Power Tools for FreeDOS. It is intended to expand the functionality of scripts written using batch files and to provide them with a better looking user interface with increased functionality.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-24 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:07 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > > I've found it varies widely upon the floppy used. The cheap ones used by > the previous owners of some systems I work with usually have very poor > integrity. On the other hand, the good quality ones used by

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-25 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, thanks for adding localization to VECHO, but: Like said, sort-of localization. It is not really localization. It is basically a formatted string lookup, parser and processor thingy. > >> vecho /t %FLANG%

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-25 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Well, I sort-of added localization support to V8Power Tools and part of FDI. I was going to do it like this; vlocal file.lng bin\vecho.com ID opt opt opt But, I changed my mind and built it straight into vecho. So, it looks more like this: vecho /t file.lng ID opt opt opt For example, in

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-26 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 8:56 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> wrote: > >> >> On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Jerome, thanks for adding localization to VECHO, but: > > Like sai

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-26 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Mercury, > >> Personally I would rather see an executable installer also and save any >> batch installers for a floppy distro, A batch would be perfect for a >> setting where every byte counts. > > Actually no:

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-27 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Jim, So, I don’t know if you missed my post on the current structure and file count for the batch installer. This has absolutely no relation to what the user sees during a the installation. Running the installer in Normal mode (Default): welcomes the user to the installer.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-27 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> > wrote: >> Jim, >> >> So, I don’t know if you missed my post on the current structure and file >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-27 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Eric Auer, A little follow up on the vecho strings stuff. I don’t know if you realized this. But, with the way vecho handles string lookups (localizations), the following demo is not only possible, but works pretty good and is very portable. Obviously, it would need to be set up to handle

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-26 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
code. If a "vendor” wants a custom version, they can literally just drop in there additions, additional questions and etc. :) > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> > wrote: > > > On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Eric Auer <e.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-26 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Well, do to the great performance of the vecho string lookup and parsing stuff. Nearly, all of the installers base text was moved into a “Language” file. So, up next: Remove the extra code to break up the text into separate files for the different stages in the main part of the installer. It

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-26 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > >> EN\STAGE300.DEF for the welcome screen. >> EN\STAGE400.DEF for partitioning screens. >> EN\FDINS100.DEF > > If you ask me, this is too much pain for too little performance. > Going through some text,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-26 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
ade >>> into one relatively small file,rather than 87 2KB batch files.Batch could >>> be used more for setting up the extra features EX. Post install,ask the >>> user if they want to install extra packages >> > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Jer

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-26 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
ade >>> into one relatively small file,rather than 87 2KB batch files.Batch could >>> be used more for setting up the extra features EX. Post install,ask the >>> user if they want to install extra packages >> > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Jer

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-23 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > indeed if you have a 386+ and un-bootable CD/DVD, then > you should be able to run the installer after opening > the CD/DVD with CD/DVD drivers of your previous DOS :-) Yep. > > What I mean is that if

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-21 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 20, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi, at the risk of being controversial: > >>> I do know that the new version needs to support 16bit >>> legacy systems. >> >> The installer certainly do. FDNPKG being 16bit sure would be "cool", >> but I don't see it

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-21 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Mercury Thirteen <mercury0x0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 10/21/2015 8:31 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> ... >> Basically, the new installer uses a list of packages for BASE and ALL >> binaries, and >> a list for BASE and

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 3:07 AM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > > On 10/11/2015 20:27, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> FDI is done to the point that Jim requested. When the packages for >> version 1.2 are ready, it could be deployed mostly as-is for the norma

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Media Layout

2015-11-10 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
\SETUP.BAT - Main entry point into the installer. \FDSETUP\ - Primary subdirectory on install floppy and other media and is basically a stripped down FDOS. With included BIN\, HELP\ and etc sub directories. \FDSETUP\SETUP\ - Directory containing all of the other

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 13:34, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> Just FYI, %DOSDIR% will be C:\FDOS in basic/normal mode. At some point, >> whenI get around to writing vask in V8, advanced mode will allow se

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 18:19, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> I will probably add a pre-built floppy image to my download server >> (http://up.lod.bz) >> at some point. > > That would be a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 17:23, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> Converted FDI to use a single package for both binary and sources and >> to use Mateusz’s all_cd.iso as the layout for packages and to use

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Converted FDI to use a single package for both binary and sources and to use Mateusz’s all_cd.iso as the layout for packages and to use FDINST instead of unzip. base package list was easy, just added all packages in the \BASE dir. no idea what to put in the “all” package list. However, there

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 6:24 AM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 12:00, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> Unzip seems to work fine for the packages on the FreeDOS 1.1 CD. (excluding >> JEMMEX, which has some >> attribute issues) >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 7:11 AM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 12:52, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> I may be wrong, but it appears that the original FreeDOS 1.1 packages >> include “deployed” versions of the packages that include all the dat

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-08 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Well, I was very busy lately and didn’t have any time to get to complete some changes to FDI until recently. Anyhow, finished adding multi-language support to the installer. (Excluding some additional error message stuff. I probably won’t make those support multi-laguage. Most of those messages

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-12 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
g FDINST REMOVE on large packages like FPC, PERL…. > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> > wrote: > > Oh, one more thing on the FDI floppy image. > > If you want to customiz

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Media Layout

2015-11-12 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
a more complex option is to add a FDINS???.BAT to the installer to handle additional setup requirements. > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> > wrote: > > \SETUP.BAT - Main entry point into the installer. > \FDSETUP\

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-16 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: >> >>> This is what I have for the “BASE” install: >>> https://github.com/shidel/FDI/blob/master/INSFILES/FDBASEB.LST > > All the various

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-15 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Had a few minutes today and did some enhancements to internals and package handling in FDI. New pre-made preview disk image available: http://up.lod.bz/FDI/latest Mostly, “Basic Mode” is done. "Advanced mode" target and package selection is just waiting for me to have time to complete the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-12 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Nov 12, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jayden, > > as far as I am concerned, the installer should NOT backup > the entire drive - only the DOS directory which would get > overwritten, plus any (config, kernel) files in the root > directory that gets

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-12 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
ays add whatever the community wants. There is a pretty good FreeDOS software repo at http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1/repos/ It’s all_cd.iso is currently what FDI is using for the FreeDOS packages. > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > > On 11/11/2015 19:25, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> It seems kind time consuming for the FDI to run through every installed >> package with >> "FDINST remove” prior to doing an i

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
et. if the user (in advanced mode), selects to keep their old %DOSDIR%, then it uninstalls base packages as well. Then, if it is going to dump %DOSDIR% it does it next. This seems to resolve the issues. > > Mateusz > > > > On 11/11/2015 20:36, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> >&

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
OK, I put the latest version of the FDI boot floppy image up on my download server. http://up.lod.bz/FDI Highly experimental still. So, I recommend only running it a virtual machine or on a test machine. NOTE: At any point that it is waiting for user input, CTRL-C will bring up a option box

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Roadmap

2015-11-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Oh, one more thing on the FDI floppy image. If you want to customize what packages are in the “ALL Packages”, just update the A:\FDSETUP\SETUP\FDALLB.LST text file to include them. --

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-20 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
able and willing to do the work. >>> >>> I'd be glad to hear some constructive feedback on this. >>> >> >> I'd be more than happy to not have to assemble it. If I must do it, release >> time will range from late 11/15 to mid to late 2016. Mostly,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-20 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 20, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > > On 20/10/2015 20:29, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> At present, I know very little about the FDNPKG. However, I thought it >> was 32-bit+ only. > > The tool itself - yes. The package b

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-20 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
f I must do it, release >> time will range from late 11/15 to mid to late 2016. Mostly, this is due to >> my "work" week being on average 80+ hours and other commitments. With "free" >> time coming in small to large chunks. >> >> >>>&g

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-21 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
d probably be changed and updated for version 1.2. More or less, you just add a package to the lists and it gets installed. > > On 10/20/2015 3:32 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: >>> >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS

2015-10-17 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 17, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > >> That is why it would be a Super Scary Halloween Release!. Just finished, >> completely untested. Probably full of creepy bugs and scary ghosts. :) > > That is a preview or technology demo, not a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS

2015-10-17 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 17, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: > > Disclaimer: All final judgement is withheld until the final product is > available. The video looks reasonable so far. Just wait until you see a video of what goes on in “Advanced” mode. :) > > > I think we

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS

2015-10-17 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 17, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > >>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 01:50:22 +0200, Jerome Shidel >>> wrote: Hopefully, over the next couple days, I expect to have some free time to finish the FDI 1.2 batch installer. This does not include a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS

2015-10-18 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Link to Advanced Mode Demo Video: https://www.facebook.com/jshidel/videos/10208053573046278/ Demonstrates the extra options available (at present) compared to the default normal “Basic” install. --

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS

2015-10-18 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 18, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > >>> That is a preview or technology demo, not a release. > > Not joking... In the past, we had release candidates. This > had the advantage that people were AWARE that by trying a > RC, they made

[Freedos-devel] FDI is done.

2015-10-18 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Well, basically the initial development of FDI is done now. (I say it is done, because it does what Jim asked for it to do.) Obviously, it will now need testing and fine tuning. It currently installs packages from the FreeDOS 1.1 CD. This will also probably need some tweaking for the 1.2

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS

2015-10-17 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 17, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Matej Horvat > wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 01:50:22 +0200, Jerome Shidel > wrote: > >> Hopefully, over the next couple days, I expect to have some free time to >> finish the FDI 1.2 batch installer. This

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS

2015-10-17 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 17, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: > > +1 > > Also, I personally think the 'batch file setup' idea is deeply flawed. > > There is a balance to achieve. The more complicated a task is, the more the > complexity should be hidden away in a few key

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-10-20 Thread Jerome E . Shidel Jr .
I don’t see any volunteers for assembling the next release of FreeDOS. So, as my limited free time permits this is my roadmap. Complete version 1.0 of V8Power Tools. https://github.com/LoopZ/V8Power Implement items remaining on FDI Roadmap.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-10-06 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 5, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > combining 20 tools of 1-2 kilobytes each into one tool of 10 kB > sounds like a good plan and using "residency" sounds even better: > Yes and maybe there will be an edition that does that at some point.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-10-06 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > Hi, > > Sometimes doing the "needful" exceeds the "requested". Jim has a vision of > what he wants, basically a batch file based simplified install. You (Jerome) > have created some very useful utilities for

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-10-06 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, for clarification: I was referring to > the specific case where your tools are used as a > part of the install process of FreeDOS :-) I know, I was just using an easy to state example. :) > > In your given

[Freedos-devel] CheckHDD for FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-08-30 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello to all you of you FreeDOS experts. I’m working on a utility to check the state of the hard disk drives prior to the installation of FreeDOS. This utility “CheckHDD” will scan the system and figure out what the FreeDOS installer needs to do to the drives for a successful install. I’ve got

[Freedos-devel] Fwd: CheckHDD for FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-08-30 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
for install. On Aug 30, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. jer...@shidel.net wrote: I’m working on a utility to check the state of the hard disk drives prior to the installation of FreeDOS. This utility “CheckHDD

Re: [Freedos-devel] V8Power Tools

2015-09-01 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
. Having them all in a busybox-like package would > probably take one tenth of that. > > cheers, > Mateusz > > > > > On 01/09/2015 16:45, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I’ve done a little bit of restructuring. >> >&

[Freedos-devel] CheckHDD development suspended

2015-08-31 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
After further consideration, I will be suspending development of the CheckHDD utility. I think that the functionality built into the vinfo utility should be sufficient for the FreeDOS installer to determine a course of action. example: vinfo /dC returns the following ERRORLEVEL

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Who is making the Batch file based installer for FreeDOS 1.2? I will be more than happy to answer any questions on V8Power Tools implementation, theory and advanced techniques for building the FreeDOS Installers User Interface.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
If it is alright,I will make the installer.I haven't made any PHYSICAL > programs yet (besides making suggestions).So I will do it. > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> > wrote: > Who is making the Batch file based installer for Free

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Maybe, I should just write it. > On Sep 7, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> wrote: > > I just checked Jim’s FreeDOS blog posts. They currently only go back a little > over 2 years. But, other than Jim’s desires for the batch based installer and >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
ste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure anymore, but I vaguely recall "Mercury Thirteen" > saying he's working on v1.2 (there was also an announcement on the FD > website at some point about that). > > Mateusz > > > > On 07/09/2015 13

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-08 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 8, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> wrote: > > > Ok, this is my thought process on the logic of the Installer batch. > (That demo installer I shared does stages 2, 3 and 4) Oops, I meant the demo installer batc

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-08 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Ok, this is my thought process on the logic of the Installer batch. (That demo installer I shared does stages 2, 3 and 4) -- STAGE 1: This will enable auto setup if

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

2015-09-08 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Ok, I’ve decided that I will probably build the installer, or at least a working prototype that could be used for installer. Sorry, to anyone who may have been considering doing it. But, as Mercury Thirteen said: "That would probably be the most efficient solution, yes. :)”

[Freedos-devel] V8Power Tools

2015-09-01 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello all, I’ve done a little bit of restructuring. The http://up.lod.bz/V8Power precompiled version will no longer include the source files. Those will be maintained over at http://github.com/LoopZ/V8Power Also, I have started making detailed examples on usage of V8PT. They are in both

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
After playing around with a making prototype installer this is a more or less first part. It is extremely slow running from a floppy (even in vmware). It might be a good idea for whoever makes the installer to first copy stuff to a ram drive or enable disk caching or something to boost

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

2015-09-08 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
? Just about everything. Project URL: http://github.com/shidel/FDI Current Demo Video on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jshidel/videos/o.5985782886/10207791496094518/?type=2 > On Sep 8, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> wrote: > > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

2015-09-10 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: >> >> - about RAMDisk: it might come handy indeed, but remember that >> FreeDOS should still be able to install on old machines, ie. from a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

2015-09-10 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi, nitpicking and ideas coming up :-) > >> This gives the user the ability to partition and format elsewhere. >> But, you cannot do an install without the drive C:. > > Actually a "live CD" mode would be nice. Give

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-10 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
;>> into a zip. Jim himself said there is an installer he's working on, >>>>> which is what's I've been waiting on. Since Jim doesn't seem to have >>>>> much free time (like many of us) I would say go for it. So, are you the one who is going to assemble the 1.2

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

2015-09-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 11/09/2015 16:39, Jim Hall wrote: >> (...) then use FDNPKG or >> UNZIP afterwards to install the other packages that you want. > > To avoid confusion, I will add that using UNZIP is not a one-to-one > alternative to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

2015-09-11 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
E you no longer have that version of FreeDOS. You would have your own version that is BASE’d on a version of FreeDOS. :) > > On 11/09/2015 18:40, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> >>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: >>>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-16 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi, plenty of interesting discussion points in this thread and in the > metados thread (combining both topics as they are both about distros). > > * I agree with Joe that DOS should not overwrite anything by default, >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-16 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > Hi, > > Unlike MS-DOS proper, FreeDOS comes with custom configuration files to > optimize for different things, I have my personal opinion on this, but I > digress. Given that the user may have modified the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-16 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > Hi, > > I think the best solution would probably be two setup programs. A quick setup > like Jim wants and then a more advanced setup that provides all the advanced > tools, disk image creation that more technical

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-16 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! > >>> * for the same reason, there could be an option to just RENAME the >>> old DOS directory instead of moving the contents into a zip file, >>> as suggested by Mercury. >> >> And if there is already an

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-16 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
BTW, thank you all for your comments on this topic. I do appreciate EACH and EVERY one of them. Also, I hope I do not upset any of you with my slightly odd sense of humor. -- Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-17 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > > There could be a secret (e.g. not listed anywhere on the installer screens) > key or key combination (F8 or shift-F8 perhaps?) which plops the user into > Advanced Mode (put on sunglasses and rev engine here)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-17 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 5:45 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU > wrote: > > YES!PLEASE!I think we found ourselves a solution. Only, if Jim gives the OK. > Oh,and is there anything to be programmed?I haven't been ale to add anything > yet… I can’t think of anything at present.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project.

2015-09-09 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 9, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> > wrote: >> >>Unless I’m using it wrong RDISK doesn’t work with any reliability. >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project.

2015-09-09 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
ought. I also thought about faking it by writing a wrapper app that shell execute the command could force feed through stdin interrupts. > > On 9/9/2015 6:33 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> A minor snag in development is driving me nuts. >> >> First remember: >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project.

2015-09-09 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > if you want to store temp results in your batch, you could > work with errorlevels, the FreeCOM magic errorlevel variable > or indeed a ramdrive. In the past, we often used "memdisk", > which is a BOOTABLE

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-09-30 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Should work with new one. As long as dos doesn’t think the flash drive is drive C:. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> > wrote: > > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-09-30 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
rograms for their version numbers and figure it out from there. With the previous id file, at worst the user deletes it. Then if they boot from the install media, the installer will assume it is not installed and ask if they want to do it again. > >> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Jerome

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-10-01 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 1, 2015, at 5:46 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, thanks for your work on your installer :-) Welcome. :^) > >> 1) boots from floppy or floppy image (like boot CD) >> >> (Note: if user manually lauches installer, skip 2 and goto 3) >> >> 2) Detects if

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-10-01 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 1, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > basically the "is the newest DOS already installed" check > has to wait for the target selection. Plus it should not > be necessary to use black magic* for this: I would prefer > if the installer only

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-10-04 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
ard command.com in FreeDOS and with MS-DOS >> (I think 7, with XP), you can do smithing like this to hide and restore the >> current cursor. >> >> vcursor | set /p OldCursor= >> vcursor hide >> rem do stuff with hidden cursor >> vcursor %OldCursor% >&g

[Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-10-02 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Well, best guess. I’m 70% done with the installer. Just need to port the backup creation code, the system files transfer stuff and example package/zip installer portion. But, the readme on using it for the OS release is mostly done. https://github.com/shidel/FDI/blob/master/README.md

[Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-09-28 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
After discussing “Advanced” mode a little with Jim, I will be adding additional functionality into the FreeDOS 1.2 installer batch file. Starting of with a complete restructure of how it structured in the file system. Instead of a single do it all installer batch file, it will now be broken

[Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-09-30 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Did a little more restructuring. So now, the setup files make a little more sense now for future updates to the installer. So far this is what happens: 1) boots from floppy or floppy image (like bottle CD) (Note: if user manually lauches installer, skip 2 and goto 3)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-09-30 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> wrote: > > Did a little more restructuring. So now, the setup files make a little more > sense now for future updates to the installer. > > So far this is what happens: > > 1) boo

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-09-30 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
At present the installer, SETUP.BAT should support installing from: Boot from floppy/CD, with CD installer. Install from any directory as long as V8Power Tools are present. (I’ll probably modify it, to adapt and use V8PT that will ship with the installer automatically.)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-09-28 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Well, before starting this major structural redesign of the FreeDOS Installer it was at about 50% complete. At present, most of functionality has been ported over. (Except, the backup generator) However, I figure it is now at approximately 30% complete. Please don’t confuse FDI’s progress

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-09-28 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
rd drive that is formatted. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> > wrote: > After discussing “Advanced” mode a little with Jim, I will be adding > additional functionality into the FreeDOS 1.2 installer batch file. > > Starti

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-09-30 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
FreeDOS from a flash drive,using RUFUS.Didn't work.Again,we should add USB > support so people could install the OS from flash drives and such. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <jer...@shidel.net> > wrote: > At present the installer, SETUP.BAT should

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2

2015-10-05 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > Hi, > > set /p is a Windows NT feature of CMD.EXE. It was not available in MS-DOS or > Windows 9x. Ok, I knew it is in a Windows DOS somewhere. Didn’t really pay much attention to which one. > > I even double

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-18 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
quick >>> setup like Jim wants and then a more advanced setup that provides all the >>> advanced tools, disk image creation that more technical users would want. >>> >>> Simple version is the batch file, advanced version is C (or some other high >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-18 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 4:08 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Mateusz and Michael, > > the installer should NOT try to be more clever or automatic > than we can SAFELY make that. I disagree with Mateusz about > the "simply give me a button to destroy my harddisk contents > and

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-18 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
FS, HPFS+ and Xenix partitions scattered all over the place, they probably have already setup a drive C: for FD to just install. Or, at least, they should know better than to run fdisk, :-) > > On 9/18/2015 9:42 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >>> On Sep 18, 2015, at

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

2015-09-18 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > > So we boot the live CD with a message to the effect of, "Welcome to the live > environment! Type "install" to install FreeDOS on your system." and then the > user can type install (or install /a or advanced

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDINST

2015-11-27 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Nov 27, 2015, at 3:58 AM, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > > On 27/11/2015 05:55, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> Unfortunately, I don’t have access to any functional gopher clients. > > You can use a gopher proxy :) Here is a link: > &

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