From: dos386 <dos...@gmail.com>
> > The bloat increase is just incredible :-D and sure RAM and CPU
> > consumption grows too
> One man's bloat is another's feature. I've been running Mozilla code
> since it was still an internal Netscape
COOL ... at that time they refuse
From: dos386 <dos...@gmail.com>
> On 21 July Eric Auer said:
> indeed I am trying to motivate people to use TLS/SSL
This (and without HeartBleed's, MD5-certificates, crippled 40-bit keys,...)
definitely makes sense when hunting around big bucks or sensitive
personal data ... howeve
From: dos386 <dos...@gmail.com>
> > There must be SOME browsers for DOS which can handle it!
> You talk as if you know for sure there is one.
> Is this the case ?
Links (well ... 2.13 works after minimal tests, but not tested on
80386 with < 16 MiO RAM)
DOSLYNX (HTTPS work
From: dos386 <dos...@gmail.com>
> Can I have the good old paper mail of FreeDOS lists?
I meant: Can I have the good old paper mail __address__ of FreeDOS lists?
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> > The bloat increase is just incredible :-D and sure RAM and CPU
> > consumption grows too
> One man's bloat is another's feature. I've been running Mozilla code
> since it was still an internal Netscape
COOL ... at that time they refused to add support for MNG as it
would add 10 KiO of bloat
> Can I have the good old paper mail of FreeDOS lists?
I meant: Can I have the good old paper mail __address__ of FreeDOS lists?
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> > There must be SOME browsers for DOS which can handle it!
> You talk as if you know for sure there is one.
> Is this the case ?
Links (well ... 2.13 works after minimal tests, but not tested on
80386 with < 16 MiO RAM)
DOSLYNX (HTTPS works, but has some other flaws, hopefully needs less
RAM
> I've never used QB64 but have heard some stuff about it.
> For one, it uses a C++ compiler as backend, no?
http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=8785 (shots and
links are dead, unfortunately)
http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=8891
> doing some reading on the
> mouse pointer in Edit with a file open is almost invisible
http://sf.net/p/freedos/bugs/2
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> > Problem solved!
> Well, not really.
Damne ... kial ???
> There are obscure corner cases where you don't want DPMI loaded.
Some WATCOM-like extenders like DOS32/A.
### HDPMI32 -u
Problem solved!
> Although to be fair, it is somewhat better than CWSDPMI
> here because it supports those
How do I rename one of the files so I can treat them separately
Any disk editor will do, try WDe:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/wde
pick your volume, [F3] goto [F6] root ... find affected file (you can
go into subdirectories too) ... patch the name (you can
I have used Arachne for many years without any problems
Nice to read this :-)
Error messages are of the type:
Page fault cr2=1002 at eio=11f0
This message seems to originate from desperately
obsolete CWSDPMI bundled with Arachne. Solutions:
[0] Get HDPMI32 and make it resident
HDPMI32
it's better this way https://mistranslate.google.com
Unfortunately the thing sometimes negates statements, reverses the
causality, or performs other funny tweaks. Especially useful for
crucial legal texts :-)
PS: Thanks to Christian
Hi
The FreeDOS wiki has now been moved! The wiki now lives at
http://www.freedos.org/wiki
YES, it's there ... there is only one edit for this year (2014-Jan-18)
and only 5 edits during 2013:
www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesdays=1000hidebots=0
Could I have edit
So where-in-HELL did THIS come from?, and my
doctor said it still hits 1 of 30,000 people with no other risk factors
True :-(
Good luck for your fight against the cancer __AND__ the doctors.
If so, you all have XMGR/RDISK/UIDE/etc. in essentially mature form
Thank you :-)
DOS programs, which are still maintained, are mostly supposed to be run
under windows and their authors often complement them with windows programs
True :-(
which did some in DOS problematic tasks (e.g. print to windows printer
Indeed a problem
sent e-mail, find free disk space, download
are we ok and alive?
YES. XP is dead, FreeDOS is alive.
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easy download video-music with ytcrack-apm,
but I have no idea how to do it in Dillo or Links
the ytcrack-apm can only be used with Arachne just
as the other apm's.
Well, Arachne APM's can't be used as-is with other browsers, but the core
EXE of YTCRACK should be usable with any other
Some hints, for FreeDOS lovers, or HowTo Create a Nice
Multimedia System from Old Hardware
http://www.xaver.me/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Mplayer
if you have corrections or additions let me know ...
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Try something like ImageShack (see below):
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/lynx3.png/
AFAIK ImageShark already stopped working ... and maybe a DOS shot
would be less bloated?
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uses 64KB clusters, but it probably isn't accessible from DOS.
Did you test? EDR-DOS AFAIK does support 64 KiB clusters on FAT16, but
I never tested.
See http://support.macro$oft.com/kb/310561
See drdos.org and drdosprojects.de (latter
Hi
I just visited every link on the FreeDOS Links page, and fixed/removed these
Thanks ... drdos.org is still commented out despite it works again ... it just
redirects elsewhere (and is sometimes lazy).
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Granted that you can, it may simply be more trouble than it's worth.
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(somewhat late and somewhat related)
0. I didn't notice any problems with ibiblio (apart from already
discussed bad directory timestamps)
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/
1. for years until now I've been having issues with
http://users.ohiohills.com/fmacall/ ... worx
PS: 7-ZIP 9.33-buggy-alpha is out. What's new: dropped support for
Windaube ME (finally, not yet tested in DOS).
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but if MT.COM is not found, i search a simple exe program for dos as MT.COM
I program with FreeBasic for DOS, if a runtime or coroutines
for this compiler, This could help me
Note that reliable and useful multitasking needs a thorough design
from the ground ... so be prepared for
Several months ago, I did a quick DJGPP ports of GNU Ocrad and
GOCR. Didn't thoroughly test them, but quick tests were successfull
http://bocke.na.rs/djgpp/ports/misc/gocr049.zip (240 KiB)
http://bocke.na.rs/djgpp/ports/misc/ocrad.zip (380 KiB)
COOL ... thanks :-)
You'll need CWSDPMI to run
Hi
the biggest problem was the keyboard that you could mostly fix ;-)
Other smaller problems were the PNG's and TFM (mention DOS support using HX).
BTW, I tried to play it on my COOL Pentium1 200 MHz PC too.
Result: illegal instruction (CMOVNTQ) in SDL.DLL, and older SDL.DLL
doesn't work.
://users.freebasic-portal.de/dos386/optimized.zip
(I hope I didn't cancel any transparency, 2 of them could be optimized
even more but I couldn't do it due to strange transparency design ...)
For next version there are at least 3 issues:
- Keyboard
- PNG's
- Docs about OS support: My version of Atomix can't
Hi
I don't have this problem... Neither on the linux build, nor on the
windows build (tested right now via virtualbox)
probably you have 3 GHz CPU
Keypresses are queued indeed, and I purposely don't 'eat them away'
because it allows to play in advance (esp. useful when moving an atom
Thanks, I'll test (can you run all your Atomar PNG's through PNGOUT or
OPTIPNG+PNGZOPFLI in the meantime?).
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There is an assortment of web content that _requires_ flash
Isn't the Google document viewer among them ? AFAIK
It is not. Look stuff up.
I did. Last time I checked it pressured me to enable JS, when it
got JS, it asked for Flash ... this was the EOD for me.
Email is the principal vector for _v_i_r_u_s_ delivery, by attachments all
reside on Google's servers too, and never reach my machine.
Funny ...
Google has viewers for all common file types
Really? How does it work? How do you see the file on Gooogle's server?
Maybe you have the ADOBE FLUSH
I do have the Adobe Flash player installed, but it's not involved in
the transaction. The attachments in question are not SWF objects.
But Google maybe translates them into SWF ... does the attach
viewer still work when you disable or remove Adobe Flash ?
There is an assortment of web
Well, what program do you want written maybe I can help out with it
Ideas, if you want to deal with HTML:
1. HTML to text converter (with nice output) ... TOTALCOMMANDER has
a such HTML viewer
2. Simple offline HTML viewer, HTML to pixels (BMP or PNG) ... with
tables and simple styles
3. Wiki
tinf is a small library implementing the decompression algorithm for
the deflate compressed data format (called 'inflate'). Deflate
compression is used in e.g. zlib, gzip, zip and png. Source included
Kick ZLIB and LIBPNG and use this one ;-)
BTW, not sure if you knew, but the original 1.0
OpenWatcom probably doesn't use Microsoft VC runtime library
well known fact
Same as MinGW in recent years
evidence please ;-)
It does not run on DOS
WRONG. It DOES run. See shot: http://s8.postimg.org/8oq1qirb9/ATOMSHDS.png
only Linux Windows (and should build on any modern platform
Atomiks runs in DOS with HX?
YES ... why don't you test? Got no DOS (evil grin) ?
* keyboard is buggy ... it buffers too much
Does it work better with Atomiks in other OS?
NO. Same BUG with XP and HX ... NOT a HX BUG :-)
(HX bugs are bunched elsewhere:
Conclusion:
1. Registering a project at SF is easy
2. Programming is hard
3. Programming something that other people love is very hard
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It does not run on DOS
only Linux Windows (and should build on any modern
platform where SDL is available
Can''t you make it HX compatible ? I'll test ...
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Should I make it a dos version too ?
DOS versions of useful stuff are always welcome :-)
Makehtml is at http://sourceforge.net/projects/makehtml
What is it supposed to do ? Registered 5 days ago and source code is
just 2 KiB :-)
and there is a BUG inside:
fprintf(f,a href=%simg src=%s
I got an old laptop with Windows 2000 Professional (NT). I will
now change the file system to FAT16, and install FreeDOS
Cool :-)
Would such drivers for Windows be of any use in FreeDOS?
MSVCRT.DLL, other MSVC*.DLL, CRTDLL.DLL, GLUE32.DLL ... maybe ReaCTOS
will replace them one day? WHINE
I found that there are almost no desktop GUIs being developed
There used to be and are many GUI's ... just most of them
are abandoned as buggy and IIRC Jim Hall removed them all
from FreeDOS list some time ago.
http://www.freedos.org/software/?cat=gui {{deleted}}
a Freedos 32bit defrag program for DOS
FreeDOS DEFRAG is NOT a 32-bit program, but it should support FAT28
(at your own risk).
DOS (7.0 for 32 bit file system
Where did you get it?
How is defrag deciding that it is running under Windows
(when it really is not)?
The detection indeed is
Actually you will have to disable all DPMI hosts completely,
HDPMI=16384 will only switch the whining from Windaube to DPMI :-(
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yesterday) badly:
http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/hexed.png
scrolling is broken, editing too ...
I am curious why textcolor() isnt working right in dosem
Is the green really needed?
// biosdisk(int cmd, int drive, int head, int track, int sector, int nsects,
void *buffer
, there are already 1'000'000'000'000 hex viewers
and editors around ... so the market is rather saturated, but most of
them are rather unusable, so you could beat them all one day :-)
Some ideas: http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/filedit.txt
I usually don't use the installers, try to install manually:
- Copy KERNEL.SYS + FREECOM.COM + SYS.COM + WDE.COM
- Backup B.S. with WDE
- SYS C: /BOOTONLY
On 2/9/13, Ray Davison ray...@charter.net wrote:
A little background. My first PC ran DOS 3.3 on a 28M HDD that I broke
into three
I had thought to use FreeDOS to do the DOS work or play, then
reboot back into Windows for other things.
Make space for FreeDOS:
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.PartErase
The ultra easiest way to play DOS games is DOSBox (emulator)
Saves you from the
detects,asm,basic,c,c
Try INFOPAD from CC386 and FASM IDE :-)
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News/Blog stuff is back ... but permissions are bugged ... I can't
edit it (shows me editing page, but after Submit, it asks for PWD
again).
Have you heard anything from King Udo recently? His forum is spammed
and dead :-(
Would Microsoft please distribute an activation crack and
let people freely use 32 bit Windows XP at will?
I prefer dumb programming questions (stack overflow) here ;-)
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But the Warcraft II that I`m familiar with did run under
plain DOS (well... with DOS4GW).
Then the complete ReactOS discussion is pointless.
1. Get WC II working under FreeDOS (troubleshoot DOG4/SW or try DOS32/A)
2. Get the network working
Only the included map editor needed Windows (3.1 or
Microsoft should have skipped Windows 9x in favor of
bringing everyone into an NT environment sooner.
Right ... and even better skip Win16 and MS-DOG too ;-)
HX probably won't run Warcraft II
You still didn't reveal whether the thing is a DOS or Win16 or Win32
binary :WtF:
open source
I am curious if you can run Warcraft II under Wine
I never tested this WC II at all :-|
ReactOS used to an effort to clone Windows 95
YO ... FreeWin95 IIRC tried to clone 95, ReactOS always
NT (but moving: NT4 - 2K - XP - Wi$ta - 7 - 8 - ???)
until that was abandoned in favor of the NT
[Freedos-user] Windows 98SE screwing up Freedos 1.1
Worx for me with METAKERN.
Is there a simple way to repair the freedos installation so
that Windows and Freedos can happily coexist?
YES. Backup Windaube98 BS, fix FreeDOS, backup FreeDOS BS,
set up METAKERN with those 2 BS's.
Looks like
I'm not even sure there's a reason to have FreeDOS in the mix.
Sure there is, especially if your 98 copy isn't legal.
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Another late comment:
- When anouncing a bugfix release of something that hasn't been fully
announced recently, write 1 or 2 sentences about what it actually is,
before discussing the improvements.
Example:
WCD 5.2.0
Erwin Waterlander has released wcd 5.2.0. The new option '-I' (ignore
Voila: http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/fdorgara.png
With Arachne, I can see the answers ... and ONLY
the answers, but not the questions.
Eric wrote:
...
...
...
Agree :-)
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(sorry for the lack of feedback, I've been dead)
Thanks for your work, looks good, no deep test.
What I miss is a news archive (now the oldest item is
dos2unix 6.0 2012-05-07 10:35, how to see the older stuff ???).
Also it links to the Wiki ... maybe the Wiki should have
info about how to
There is a link to the news archive.
It is at the bottom of the last news item, called 'Read more'.
Right :-(
Would the link be more obvious if it were called 'News archive' or 'More
news'?
What link text would make the most sense?
Or FreeDOS news list at SF (with archive).
happy to
wish VMware's video feature would use standard codecs so
something could be posted to Youtube or
Please provide your movies in OGV or WebM files, not Loo-Tube.
- It fails to find any HD (see middle shot)
In the normal configurations or the dedication one?
Both, but in normal configurations
Please try to empty FDCONFIG.SYS and FDAUTO.BAT, and re-add USEFUL
things piece after piece ... and supply shot of the crash ... it
crashes AFTER the boot has finished is NOT very informative.
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COOL :-)
http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/freeds11.png
Problems:
- What's the purpose of the menu item Pasquale (see top shot) ?
- It fails to find any HD (see middle shot)
- Using the menu item install to harddisk, it starts installing but
hangs
What's the purpose of the menu item Pasquale (see top shot) ?
Are you such an idiot or are you just trying to play the troll here?
It should be obvious to almost everyone that this is not an active menu item
Idiot yourself. It is active. Just try to select it and push ENTER :-D
I can install and update FreeDOS manually (and I've been
having it for years), so the problems don't really hurt me,
but for potential new users, I'd prefer a well working distro.
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Thanks ...
It is not a menu item, just a dedication :-(
the same respect to Pat can be shown even
without the highlighting of that item/line
and allowing to select it ;-)
What types of HD do you have? IDE, SATA, USB?
IDE, and there is a FAT16 partition on.
Maybe because there actually is
My criticism addressed the fact that you can select
Pat as a menu item, not the respect to Pat ... EOD @Ralf.
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I can't find any.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/lynx3.png/
http://imageshack.us/f/832/lynx3.png/
Now I can see something (Windaube?).
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ew lynx for dos.
where ?
But will pick a few people who write me privately for this goal.
If you are running freedos only, not under a windows structure
I do.
use ms dos 7.1. Doug has tested it already under Windows 7
did it successfully wipe C: partition ???
almost forgot, here's
I wonder if a workaround would be to detect Dillo on the web site
Please don't do it like that ... it's just recycling this B.S. technology:
if (detectIE5)
make IE5 happy
else
if (detectIE5.5)
make IE5.5 happy
else
if (detectIE6)
make IE6 happy
else
if
I'm assuming the screenshot is from Dillo for DOS
Right ... shot in DOS with Dillo-DOS, uploaded in Windaube with Dillo-Win32.
Dillo is rendering all text in fixed-pitch (monospace) font,
and all in the same font size.
Shot please.
I'm *not* loading DOSLFN since I got the SFN version of
Thanks :-) It does something ... upload doesn't work (in Win32 version
it works with minor trouble) ... HTTPS doesn't work ... posting in
FASM forum works (without attachments only) ... FTP is strange ...
and there are hangers (temporary and permanent) ...
Here is a screenshot of Dillo for DOS running
Another one (shot in DOS but uploaded in Windaube):
http://board.flatassembler.net/files/d_948.png
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Just curious, does the rest of the FreeDOS site render correctly on Dillo?
The stuff on the left side is far below (bad, not visible on the
shot), no further tests.
FASM forum (php-BB2) looks good (as long as no big images inside) but
produces warns after posting ... php-BB3 looks a bit messy.
Long messages have appeared from people that want a multitasking DOS
How about developing more TSRs for multitasking?
???
A more realistic goal to Freedos may be to expand the batch
programming language to be compatible with newer windows
versions, but keeping retro compatible with DOS
M.R. wrote:
Thing is, DOS doesn't make sense at all in the multicore era as a
primary operating system
drop it, problem gone ;-)
M.B. wrote:
DOS enthusiasts can choose to remain on older hardware, live in
emulation environments
until finding how useless they are ...
or roll up their
http://www.mevis-research.de/~ritter/awakeideas/desktop.html
COOL :) Got it ... it is very nice ... and very buggy :-(
We used to link to this in the FreeDOS software list, long ago. As a desktop,
Desktop2 was okay. It didn't support any advanced features
What is missing ?
I removed it
Eigenlijk komt zelfs erger. freedos.org is soms onbereikbaar, zelfs
met de www, zie geschoten:
http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/fdorgxms.png :-D
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list, not trash list for those banned from ROS ... but I might be
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Is there a way I can complain about the reactos.org site and get them
sanctioned?
Tell Mr. Bush that ReactOS cooperates with AL-Qaeda :-D
In the land of FreeDOS we have the following problems:
+1:
- People refusing to boot DOS (and leave Windaube) + too much
virtualization crap
All other pages worked that day :-D
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is there anyone who did develop the desktop2 program (by F. Ritter?)
I didn't :-(
Please post shot, license, download link or something useful ;-)
The most stable GUI depends on what you need. If you are wanting to run
Windows applications, 16 bit ones that is, you are somewhat out of luck
Japheth wrote:
So faithfully expect point 1. to be realized
somewhere in the second half of this decade!
I do (BTW, I have 2 CPU cores ... located in 2 PC's located
cca 20 Km from each other ... total frequency is 800 MHz).
Are yu going to complain about this?
Sure. But not today. Expect
Same for bttr-software.de :-D
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I would imagine that Freedos in 16 bit mode can't use multiple cores
It can't actively take benefit from them, but it still runs, FYI :shock:
One of the problems with DOS that I recall is a total
lack of hardware protection
Right.
Unfortunately, accessing hardware directly
instead of
Interesting, how far did they get?
public plans ...
What stopped the plans?
Only Japheth knows ...
No. BZIP2 has a maximum block size of 900k anyway and
Deflate and LZMA have no block limit ;-)
2. How do you glue the out fragments then ???
See above.
Not really. You don't know the
forgot to mention: FAT performance will suck if you try
to create 6 thumb files in parallel with your 6 core CPU
Known issue. Is Linux able to share the file I/O ?
Windaube XP definitely can't (2 tasks on 1 core).
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Copy gig files or archive and compress then.
Personally, I'd probably just burn the files to
Jim wrote:
I like this one:
2011-08-02 18:09:06
just make it the default ;-)
cm wrote:
Except if a 12-hour time format is desired
no point ;-)
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Why not 18'446'744'073'709'551'615 ??? Comma and dot
are usually used to separate fractional part: PI = 3.14159265358979
That's a nice idea, though at first glance a bit odd looking. Any
systems using this upper [`] or ['] ?
FASM :-) Using it in all my sources :-) The ASCII code is 39. The
Lots of software (especially driver installers) still depends on
CONFIG.SYS existing
Bad hehaviour. Probably for same reason NTVDM always brews
empty MSDOS.SYS and IO.SYS files whenever launched.
Apparently there is at least one app checking for existence of those
2 files to make sure it is
COOL :
%ifdef OLDSTYLE
fdreplace db FDKERN
fdreplacecnt db ELSYS
%else
fdreplace db KERNEL
fdreplacecnt db SYS
%endif
NOT COOL :
; must match order of search strings:
searchlist dw fdtype, mstype, ibmtype, wintype, othertype
No ^^^ EDR-DOS
* number: nnn.nnn.nnn,xyz (european)
Why not 18'446'744'073'709'551'615 ??? Comma and dot
are usually used to separate fractional part: PI = 3.14159265358979
* separater: ehm no idea.
Of who or what ?
* keyboard: QWERTY with EURO (858 thus), still not managed to get a
euro-sign in DOS but
Could someone tell me if it's possible to have multiple instances
of (Free)DOS installed to the same partition?
YES.
Unfortunately, the kernel looks for FDCONFIG.SYS and CONFIG.SYS
only (I'd kick the latter, BTW), so all FreeDOS kernels will share this
one file, except you patch the kernel.
Over $49,000 which did not include
separate bills by all doctors involved!!
I asked that hospital's people why they charge
so much. Because we CAN charge so much!!
:kalashnikov:
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That one doesn't sort very well either (puts April next to August)
Indeed :-(
so
2011-08-02 18:09:06
or
2011-08(Aug)-02 (Tue) 18:09:06
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... or all the other date formattings
No point of existence ;-)
German dd.mm. hh:mm 1.000,00 for COUNTRY
than BIOS default US QWERTY) are totally different
I prefer to keep things simple (QWERTY, @ and \ discoverable)
and convenient (-MM-DD HH:MM:SS) - no need for messing
up
intentionally, as far as I remember for mimicking MS style
EDR-DOS doesn't have this bug ;-)
If MS COMMAND.COM for DOS didn't have a setting for 4-digit year
Another one: all dates should be -MM-DD and times without the
silly a and p
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