Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-08 Thread Joao Silva
Hi. I think is a good idea not to let "die" dos software. I still have some dos sofware (games and programs) on cds... i think. If is legal to upload to archive.org i'm up for it. I'm from Portugal by the way. Thanks! On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:54 AM Martin Iturbide wrote: > Hi > > To

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-07 Thread Martin Iturbide
Hi To preserve all old DOS software (freeware, shareware, demo, for non-commercial use, open source, etc) I recommend creating individual accounts on archive.org and uploading it there. The Internet Archive is a non-profit public library in the US that can store copies of books and archives

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-07 Thread Thomas Desi
Liam, WordTsar looks indeed „funny“ on my iMac. Thx for pointing it out. Regarding Raskin’s Editor: There are builds for Windows, Mac and Linux: https://web.archive.org/web/20080224100142/http://rchi.raskincenter.org/index.php?title=Download A recent Tribute to his ZOOM World is nice to try

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-07 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 18:29, Thomas Desi wrote: > > Maybe those legacy editors are still around in discussion because of their > „paradigmas“ they created > around editing text on a computer. Well, yes. > Editor „Brief“ refers maybe besides other features to „incremental“ Home / > End Keys

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-07 Thread Thomas Desi
Maybe those legacy editors are still around in discussion because of their „paradigmas“ they created around editing text on a computer. Editor „Brief“ refers maybe besides other features to „incremental“ Home / End Keys (e.g. first HOME press moves caret to Start-Of-Line, a second press moves

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-07 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 03:58, dmccunney wrote: > Once upon a time, an outfit called Mark of the Unicorn made an editor > for CP/M called Mince, which was an acronym for Mince Is Not Complete > Emacs. It used the Emacs design and keyboard mappings, but there were > limits to what you could do in

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-06 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 5:52 PM Jim Hall wrote: > On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 4:00 PM dmccunney wrote: > > You don't host non open source software on Ibiblio. > > I am principal maintainer for a site called TextEditors.org The focus > > is what it says in the site name. It's a wiki anyone can

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 4:35 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jim, > > the current Diskman website links to archive.org for some of > the content and "inside" the archived website you can jump to > > http://web.archive.org/web/20070206182142/http://www.diskman.co.uk/license.aspx > > Which contains the

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 5:17 PM Thomas Desi wrote: > > Hi Dennis, I *love* your TextEditors.org site! Thanks for your work! Thank you. I don't believe the site is high volume, but I don't care. Every once in a while I get an email from someone thanking me because TextEdiors provided info or a

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 4:00 PM dmccunney wrote: >[..] > You don't host non open source software on Ibiblio. > > Fair enough, but there needs to be a place to put "Free to use" but > *not* open source that will be of use to Freedos (and DOS in general > users) and useful used on DOS/Freedos. It

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jim, the current Diskman website links to archive.org for some of the content and "inside" the archived website you can jump to http://web.archive.org/web/20070206182142/http://www.diskman.co.uk/license.aspx Which contains the following, as of 2/2007, emphasis added by me: "- Diskman is

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Thomas Desi
Hi Dennis, I *love* your TextEditors.org site! Thanks for your work! Coincidentally, I was just this moment browsing http://www.lanet.lv/simtel.net/msdos/editor-pre.html and it looks like all are broken links. -Thomas NB: Some authors of an earlier era still living up to the idea that holding

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 3:25 PM Eric Auer wrote: >[..] > > I downloaded 4.2.a3 from the author's website > > http://www.diskman.co.uk/ and while there's no Readme > > file, running the program prints this notice: > > > >> Licensed to : ALPHA RELEASE. DO NOT DISTRIBUTE... > > The list of versions

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Eric, > interesting that the DISKMAN website just WORKED. > The idea to view it using archive.org came from > Robert, maybe it did not work from his area? Odd. It's not odd: In private mail, at first, I cited something from . Then I sent two archive.org links,

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jim Hall wrote: > On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 10:59 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > > Hi! Recently I have noticed that our ibiblio contains "DM21" > I'm not sure why that was on Ibiblio. We can only include open source > software on the Ibiblio site. You don't host non open

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jim, interesting that the DISKMAN website just WORKED. The idea to view it using archive.org came from Robert, maybe it did not work from his area? Odd. > I downloaded 4.2.a3 from the author's website > http://www.diskman.co.uk/ and while there's no Readme > file, running the program prints

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 10:59 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! Recently I have noticed that our ibiblio contains "DM21" > > https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/dm/ > > which has only bare binaries inside. So I wondered what it is. > Now Robert, who says I should not

[Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Recently I have noticed that our ibiblio contains "DM21" https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/dm/ which has only bare binaries inside. So I wondered what it is. Now Robert, who says I should not thank him, has found the URL