IBM workers start trade union
--- F R E N D Z of martian --- http://www.theregister.co.uk/990817-06.html Rich "All exercise of authority corrupts - All submission to authority degrades." (Bakunin) e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: +44 (0) 117 914 6217 -- Sent to you via the frendz list at marsbard.com The archive is at http://www.mail-archive.com/frendz@marsbard.com/
Re: Y2K compliance...
--- F R E N D Z of martian --- Quoting martian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is the funniest Y2K statement /I've/ seen... Er, what is? rich --- Disobedience, in the eyes of any one who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and through rebellion. -- Oscar Wilde e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: +44 (0) 117 914 6217 -- Sent to you via the frendz list at marsbard.com The archive is at http://www.mail-archive.com/frendz@marsbard.com/
Re: WinLinux2000
--- F R E N D Z of martian --- On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, martian bard wrote: --- F R E N D Z of martian --- Don't knock it - this is a positive step to Linux global domination. Yeah I know - at a guess I'd say it's an average linux distro built around the cygwin dll. I could be wrong but it seems likely. (cygwin.dll provides unix type library calls in a windows environment) How can it be Linux if it doesn't have the Linux part in it - the kernel? Is it a TM infringement? Does anyone care? Rich -- Lucas is the source of many of the components of the legendarily reliable British automotive electrical systems. Professionals call the company "The Prince of Darkness". Of course, if Lucas were to design and manufacture nuclear weapons, World War III would never get off the ground. The British don't like warm beer any more than the Americans do. The British drink warm beer because they have Lucas refrigerators. -- Sent to you via the frendz list at marsbard.com The archive is at http://www.mail-archive.com/frendz@marsbard.com/
Re: AppDev
--- F R E N D Z of martian --- On Tue, 09 Nov 1999, Martin Cosgrave wrote: Ah. A reaction. How gratifying. If it looks shit I presume one of you lot will tell me... You do know it's not finished yet, right? Anyway, I like basic. However, my own uninformed (and dismissive) opinion of marketing suggests that you might not want the words 'you just lost a sale' in big, bold italics smack in the middle of the front page. But, I know nothing. I like the logo. Is that dot in the middle of the A the dot in .com? Rich -- Obscene? Obscene is young men being trained to drop fire on people, but their commanders not allowing them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene. -- Sent to you via the frendz list at marsbard.com The archive is at http://www.mail-archive.com/frendz@marsbard.com/
Re: Fwd: [ISO] DRUG TESTING LOWERS PRODUCTIVITY
--- F R E N D Z of martian --- On Tue, 09 Nov 1999, Martin Cosgrave wrote: --- F R E N D Z of martian --- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/11/05/BU32908.DTL And AppDev's policy? Presumably, in order to placate the shareholders, all employees will be required to produce positive results, no? Rich -- "Just once, I wish we would encounter an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets" -- The Brigadier, "Dr. Who" -- Sent to you via the frendz list at marsbard.com The archive is at http://www.mail-archive.com/frendz@marsbard.com/
Fwd: Bilderberg: Secret minutes revealed for first time in 50 years
--- F R E N D Z of martian --- Frendz, I thought one or two on this list might be interested in the secret Bilderberg thang -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Bilderberg: Secret minutes revealed for first time in 50 years Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:08:04 + From: "News Desk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] No-WTO apologies for cross-posting Title: 'Bilderberg': Secret Minutes Revealed for the first time in 50 years Date: 15 NOV '99 Author: Gibby Zobel Source: The Big Issue, London Style: News Article For nearly 50 years an elite group of the West¹s most powerful men and women, including Bill Clinton and Tony Blair, has met in secret. Today The Big Issue can reveal for the first time the confidential minutes The Bilderberg Papers of what some commentators have called a ³shadow world government². The clandestine meetings do not make policy, yet directly inform the thinking of world leaders. This year¹s meeting took place in June under armed guard at the exclusive Caesar Park Hotel, Penha Longa, Portugal. Northern Ireland secretary of state Peter Mandelson, Conservative MP Kenneth Clarke, and environmentalist Jonathon Porritt attended and mixed with presidents, chairmen of multinational companies, world bankers, Nato chiefs and defence ministers. The 64-page leaked document reveals the group was advised that after Kosovo, ³Russia now has carte blanche to intervene in Chechnya. Nato will not bomb Moscow if Russia invades Chechnya.² Two hundred thousand Chechens have been forced to flee their homes since Russia began bombing last month. Last week the Clinton administration accused Russia of breaking international law. But the minutes make clear that world leaders are operating in an environment where international law has become obsolete and where Nato is in danger of effectively becoming a colonial power In another debate How Durable is the Current Rosy Complexion of European Politics?¹ Britain¹s cuts in welfare were put into sharp context. ³The new Left,² argued one Briton, was ³consolidating the victories of the Right. The electoral failures of the Right had largely been self-inflicted, and the Left may well prove to be better at reforming the welfare state. With 17 million unemployed, it might be easier for somebody who claimed to be a socialist to impose change.² Welfare, one panellist thought, would be the ³Red man¹s burden². Governments had to ³think like business people². But not every socialist government in Europe has bitten the bullet the group talked of Germany, France and Italy¹s lack of ³guts² for welfare cuts. Governments¹ fear of social unrest was the major reason for lack of action. As a British panellist noted: ³Things would only change when the cost of not doing anything really did seem larger than that of doing something.² Most of the group thought the new European Left was just a ³genetically modified version² of the old one. ³It is simply a rotation of power,² said one German. ³In many cases the real power lies with central banks.² This idea was given greater emphasis by discussions about the introduction of dollarisation. The Bilderberg papers reveal: - Nato has ³given Russia carte blanche to intervene in Chechnya² - After the euro, a global currency dollarisation¹ may be the next step - Post-Kosovo, Nato is in danger of mimicking a colonial empire - It¹s easier to cut welfare benefits if you call yourself a socialist HIDDEN AGENDA - FEATURE In the first of a two-part series, Gibby Zobel uncovers how the global power elite decides our future at the shadowy Bilderberg Summit each year. Documents from the secret summit - leaked to The Big Issue - reveal what they said about money and war For nearly 50 years an elite group of the West¹s most powerful men and women, a shadow world government, have met in secret. Tony Blair is in the club. Every US president since Ike Eisenhower has been too. So are top members of the British Government. So are the people who control what you watch and read the media barons. Which is why you may never have heard of Bilderberg. ³Lines of black limousines, unmarked except for a B¹ on the windscreen, swept in, sometimes accompanied by police escorts, sometimes not,² says an eyewitness of this year¹s meeting in Portugal. ³A helicopter was overhead, and other security officers were prudently patrolling the hillsides. The policy on duty at the gates made it crystal clear that they were only the tip of the security iceberg.² For two-and-a-half days, relaxing in exclusive luxury amid vast armed security, the powerful leaders discussed past and future wars, a European superstate, a global currency, genetics, and the dismantling of the welfare state. Unaccountable, untroubled and unreported, the Bilderberg meetings have formed the basis of international policy for decades. Last year freelance journalist Campbell Thomas was arrested just for knocking on doors near the clandestine gathering in Turnberry, Scotland. He remained in
Fw: N30 Black Bloc Communique
--- F R E N D Z of martian --- From Seattle's bane of private property - Original Message - From: Yang Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; purple penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ann Goncalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lily [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brian Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Shiraz Dindar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Joseph Veilleux Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brishen Viaud [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alexander Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maren hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED]; julian [EMAIL PROTECTED]; andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]; oshan cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Shawntel Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jamie Doucette [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Larissa Buijs [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 2:49 AM Subject: N30 Black Bloc Communique No-WTO there's been a lot of discussion and speculation among anti-WTO protesters as to the police violence being the result of "anarchist agents" who are somehow allied with the authorities to incite people to violence and property damage so that the police would have an excuse to use force. do the police usually need an excuse to use force??? (ask the oppressed communities who see it daily). do we really want to keep supporting the "logic" that the police only use force when "necessary"? cuz that ain't true by a very long shot. i can't believe people are buying into this hype, also pushed by the corporate media. after all, it was in a pre-WTO f.b.i. press-release where corporations were warned of possible "anarchist-induced violence" in seattle. i also don't believe that the corporate media or the fbi have any understanding of what anarchism is (would you trust them to define 'socialism'?). here's a Communique from one of the anarchist groups active in seattle that day. they aren't trying to account for ALL the property damage, but try instead to dispel myths and articulate the philosophies behind their actions. note: noam chomsky and howard zinn are just two of the many self-described anarchists. --- from: www.indymedia.org --- N30 Black Bloc Communique by ACME Collective 10:48am Sat Dec 4 '99 A communique from one section of the black bloc of N30 in Seattle On November 30, several groups of individuals in black bloc attacked various corporate targets in downtown Seattle. Among them were (to name just a few): Fidelity Investment (major investor in Occidental Petroleum, the bane of the U'wa tribe in Columbia). Bank of America, US Bancorp, Key Bank and Washington Mutual Bank (financial institutions key in the expansion of corporate repression). Old Navy, Banana Republic and the GAP (as Fisher family businesses, rapers of Northwest forest lands and sweatshop laborers). NikeTown and Levi's (whose overpriced products are made in sweatshops). McDonald's (slave-wage fast-food peddlers responsible for destruction of tropical rainforests for grazing land and slaughter of animals). Starbucks (peddlers of an addictive substance whose products are harvested at below-poverty wages by farmers who are forced to destroy their own forests in the process) Warner Bros. (media monopolists). Planet Hollywood (for being Planet Hollywood). This activity lasted for over 5 hours and involved the breaking of storefront windows and doors and defacing of facades. Slingshots, newspaper boxes, sledge hammers, mallets, crowbars and nail-pullers were used to strategically destroy corporate property and gain access (one of the three targeted Starbucks and Niketown were looted). Eggs filled with glass etching solution, paint-balls and spray-paint were also used. The black bloc was a loosely organized cluster of affinity groups and individuals who roamed around downtown, pulled this way by a vulnerable and significant storefront and that way by the sight of a police formation. Unlike the vast majority of activists who were pepper-sprayed, tear-gassed and shot at with rubber bullets on several occasions, most of our section of the black bloc escaped serious injury by remaining constantly in motion and avoiding engagement with the police. We buddied up, kept tight and watched each others' backs. Those attacked by federal thugs were un-arrested by quick-thinking and organized members of the black bloc. The sense of solidarity was awe-inspiring. THE PEACE POLICE Unfortunately, the presence and persistence of "peace police" was quite disturbing. On at least 6 separate occasions, so-called "non-violent" activists physically attacked individuals who targeted corporate property. Some even went so far as to stand in front of the Niketown super store and tackle and shove the black bloc away. Indeed, such self-described "peace-keepers" posed a much greater threat to individuals in the black bloc than the notoriously violent uniformed "peace-keepers" sanctioned by the state (undercover officers have even used the cover of the
RE: [daboyz] mad shit.....
--- F R E N D Z of martian --- NO! Bring back the birch, then we can do it over and over again. rich -Original Message- From: Robert Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 17:03 To: multiple recipients of Subject: RE: [daboyz] mad shit. --- F R E N D Z of martian --- When are they bringing back hanging - we do with it for Rigby. ;) -Original Message- From: Martin Cosgrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 February 2000 16:48 To: multiple recipients of Subject:Fwd: [daboyz] mad shit. --- F R E N D Z of martian --- Hague proposes 1/4m drugs exclusion zone around schools... bet Jack Straw wishes he'd thought of it first. This is a forwarded message From: Nick Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000, 4:05:58 PM Subject: [daboyz] mad shit. ===8==Original message text=== http://www.msn.co.uk/exredir.asp?STARTID=242URL=http://www.thisislondon.com /dynamic/news/news_story_msn.html%3Fin_review_id%3D253856 Regards Nick E:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M:07970 082367 To Post a message, send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===8===End of original message text=== Best regards, Martin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent to you via the frendz list at marsbard.com The archive is at http://www.mail-archive.com/frendz@marsbard.com/ -- Sent to you via the frendz list at marsbard.com The archive is at http://www.mail-archive.com/frendz@marsbard.com/ -- Sent to you via the frendz list at marsbard.com The archive is at http://www.mail-archive.com/frendz@marsbard.com/
RE: Transport
--- F R E N D Z of martian --- Everyone knows that the rail companies aren't into railways. Many of them are property developers. The railway is simply a distraction from their core business of extracting profit from the prime location of their largest assets. Just think of all the main line stations smack in the middle of the largest (and smallest) cities in the country. The only reason they keep the railways is because the government would (probably) refuse to give the massive subsidies they currently receive. After all, they are businesses whose sole aim must be to extract as much value as possible for shareholders, on penalty of law. They have no other choice! rich --- Minors in Kansas City, Missouri, are not allowed to purchase cap pistols; they may buy shotguns freely, however. PGP fingerprint: AE32 1C0A DF2E 3FCD 9E11 B9D9 808D 2BA1 687D C70E -- Sent to you via the frendz list at marsbard.com The archive is at http://www.mail-archive.com/frendz@marsbard.com/
RE: Here's a question then... (one for the techies)
It depends on how hard-core he wants to be in programming, whether he wants to continue using basic, and whether he wants to be able to faff about with windows dialog boxes - easily. VBis pretty good at knocking up windows for the basic programmer; my Grandfather was extremely happy with this (the rest of Windows is another matter;)hewrote all sorts of stock-tracking software for his self. If your Uncle fancies learning about programming on a "real" operating system, and how a computer really works, then C or C++ on Linuxcould be the answer (Visual C++ on Windows is extremely expensive, I believe) - if he wants to develop GUI applications and stuff then he could stick a scripting language (such as Perl or Tcl/Tk) on top of that - this could be a challenge! On the practical front, how much RAM does he have? Linux will need _at_least_ 8MB - and will run like a dog if X is loaded, in only 8MBWindows 95 could also be a problem. If he has Win3.1, getting hold of compatible version of VB could be a problem. rich -Original Message-From: Kip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 03 December 2000 21:12To: multiple recipients ofSubject: Here's a question then... (one for the techies) My Uncle, who up till now has been quite happy programming basic with his Sinclair QL (yes, that's right), has just been given a fairly old Windows machine (486), and wants to know how he can start coding stuff with it, and not being much of an applications person myself, I didn't know what to tell him. So, do you reckon he should get Visual Basic and have a go with that, or is it better to learn C++, or should he just forget about Windows and stick Linux on it? Thanks, Kip
FW: Trade in your Teddy Bear for an AK47 (fwd)
--- F R E N D Z of martian --- DIST's 4th demand is, laudably, 4) Worldwide revolution with eternal grooviness as its only goal read on... -Original Message- From: Yang Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 May 2001 21:51 Subject: Trade in your Teddy Bear for an AK47 (fwd) No-WTO --- ListBot Sponsor -- Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb -- Begin Forwarded Message Date:5/1/01 10:39 PM From:wrench, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [please distribute widely] Turn in your teddy bear for an AK47 Demand Conjugal Visits for all Political Prisoner Now! On April 20th, during protests against the Summit of the Americas, Jaggi Singh was nabbed by undercover police and charged with several offenses, the most serious being possession of a dangerous weapon. The weapon in question was an enormous catapult used to launch helpless teddy bears across the security perimeter. Those responsible for this heinous crime have denied that Singh had anything to do with their glorious catapult, and today will be sending in signed confessions of guilt to the authorities, and turning in their stuffed comrades to local police stations across the country. Meanwhile, Singh has been denied bail, and will be held for several months until his trial. DIST, the group behind the catapult action, has also learned that Singh and other political prisoners are being denied conjugal visits. Needless to say, this is a clear violation of the Geneva Convention, and DIST has asked that Amnesty International investigate this terrible abuse of human rights. DIST is also announcing a campaign of teddy bear rage aimed at freeing the prisoners captured during the Summit of the Americas. They are asking people to catch as many stuffed animals as they can, and mail them to Le Grande Fromage, Jean Chretien (this can be done free of charge), and to Quebec Justice Minister Paul Begin (addresses below). In order to encourage the public to send in their stuffed animals, DIST has sent out a fake press release and set up a fake web page, announcing a teddy bear exchange program, similar to the gun exchanges which occur in the United States. DIST is demanding the following: 1) We want our catapult back! 2) Free Jaggi Singh and other POW's 3) Conjugal visits for all political prisoners 4) Worldwide revolution with eternal grooviness as its only goal We ask that people turn in their stuffed animals until all demands are met. emails of rage can be sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information can be found at http://tao.ca/~wrench/dist - fake press release--- For Immediate Release Wednesday, May 2nd Last week, during the Summit of Americas, citizens of this country were shocked to see teddy bears being launched from a catapult at our brave security forces. While our police were protected by their riot armour (thankfully!), we feel it is incumbent upon us to ensure that never again, will the lives of our officers be put in jeopardy by teddy bear violence. One of the suspected catapulters has been apprehended, and we will spare no effort to ensure that he is brought to justice. However, the prosecution of those involved in this act of teddy terror is not enough. Today, the Justice Department is announcing a new program to get dangerous teddy bears off the streets. For the safety of our children, and for the safety of all, we need to act. Today, we are kick-starting our teddy bear exchange program. We ask that our fellow citizens send us their teddy bears, in exchange for items ranging from tear gas canisters, to batons, to AK47's We do not seek to ban teddy bears. We know that good, law-abiding citizens sometimes own teddy bears for legitimate purposes. Rather, we seek to reduce the number of teddy bears out there, to ensure that a plague of teddy bear atrocities will not infect this great country of ours. It is astounding that anyone can walk into a thrift shop, Salvation Army or toy store, and buy, without a license, or background check, as many stuffed animals as they want. That is why we are working with Parliament, to enact strong teddy bear legislation, to ensure that teddy bears do not fall into the hands of criminals. More importantly, we will continue to enforce existing teddy bear control laws, in order to stem the tide of teddy-violence. In the meantime, we implore our fellow citizens to send in their stuffed animals. Canadians can mail them for free to: Stop Teddy Violence c/o Jean Chretien, Le Grande Fromage House of Commons, Ottawa Ontario Or those with money can send them to:
