Well ... by built up I mean the collecting of examples. Yes, each example
is part novel and part pattern. So I do get what you are saying, in regards
to how these specific examples allow a sort of mental pruning, down to the
essential aspects.
In Blink, Gladwell uses the example of an art
Yes ... I would have voted for a few Stephenson books as well, if I
weren't too busy trying to come up with new examples.
-t
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Victoria Hughes victo...@toryhughes.comwrote:
Would be interesting to see response to the same question in other venues.
Neil
Again, I suggest the evidence is exactly the opposite!
You assert that the art expert needs lots of mental space to fill with his
experiences of past real and fake statues. I suggest that he needs less and
less mental space the more expert he gets (and that this is typically what we
mean by
Overall an interesting thread. I'd like to offer a couple of
observations, however.
It is hard for me to think of the brain as a strongly conserved
quantity. Most people speak as if developing one set of skills or
proto-patterns to match from pushes some other set out... There is
lots
As I quoted earlier ... the best performance [expertise] came from
'compiled knowledge' which is intrinsically inexpressible. Sometimes,
we'd like to think it's pattern recognition. It definitely is in my
mind when I play Go. Being inexpressible means I can't tell that
there's a pattern in
Robert J. Cordingley wrote circa 10/14/2010 07:21 AM:
What's curious is that he believes we get a better feel for reality and
human nature by reading novels ( = made up stuff). I definitely
wouldn't want to draw conclusions too strongly about life, the intellect
or the mind that is based on
1. Anyone who thinks that art of any kind makes you a better person
had better explain why concentration camp commandants could listen to
Bach at night--with great appreciation. (And, for all I know, read
Goethe and Schiller). Furthermore, surely museum guards, exposed to
art daily, must
Re: Joseph Epstein:
He was the editor of The American
Scholar, the intellectual quarterly of
Phi Beta Kappa, between 1974 and 1997.
I read it during the earlier part of that
span (also before he became editor). It was
a piece of shit, as intellectual quarterlies
(or more-frequentlies) go, and
Lee,
Could you consider your rhetoric and your audience a bit before you hit
send? Are you trying to convince anybody of anything, or are you just
mooning the list?
Nick
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On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:51 AM, ERIC P. CHARLES e...@psu.edu wrote:
To connect this with the other thread, and Rich's eloquent statement, the
transcendent person is LESS complicated than the average person. They have
let go of unnecessary complications. When you accept everyone and let
them
Nothing is more made up than pure math. That's why we love it so
much. ;-)
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On 10/14/2010 10:23 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
Robert C. wrote:
What's curious is that he believes we get a
Nick,
That's my truth. Deal with it.
When one is considering how seriously to take
what someone has to say (whether that someone
be me or Joseph Epstein) on a given subject
(whether that subject be the value of Joseph
Epstein's writings or the value of a literary
education), it is reasonable
I think we are talking past each other. By mental space I'm talking about
storage; you seem to be talking about processing. Yes, the expert can
process faster, more efficiently. But that is because more mental space has
been dedicated to storing specific patterns and their combinations, and
Let's leave it to C.P. Snow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Cultures:
A good many times I have been present at gatherings of people who, by the
standards of the traditional culture, are thought highly educated and who
have with considerable gusto been expressing their incredulity at the
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Pamela McCorduck pam...@well.com wrote:
[snip]
3. I have also read what Robert read about the vision system taking up 40%
of our brain. (40%? 60%? a high very proportion). Small illustration: my
cousin had surgery to correct a vision defect she'd had all her
Lee,
I have no quibble with your truth, only with your rhetoric.
' That's my truth. Deal with it. ' is what freshman writers want to say
when you tell them that their bared soul is incomprehensible. To which the
only answer is, That's fine, if you don't care to be read or understood.
If
Ted Carmichael wrote:
BTW - I wouldn't say the expert cannot explain why he has reached a
certain conclusion. Largely speaking, she can. A blind person can
tell you exactly what all the little raised dots and patterns mean.
I just mean that, as expertise is built up, this process of
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:
The closest I have ever come to shading the truth in my writing is in a
series of essays under a pseudonym in which I included examples of events
that - blush - never quite actually happened. I
Dear all,
I apologize for sending responses to the list which were properly personal.
For some reason, recently, while the name in the reply box is the person who
sent me the note, the reply I write is sent to the list! When it happened
before last spring, I developed the habit of NEVER
More complex, less complicated. Knowledge or ontology becomes more
robust if it is independently *accessible*, whereas expertise is the
fluidity of understanding what knowledge is most *reachable*, given some
variety of current contexts. So its more topological (what's the
most or least
At the time I said I was reminded of what the critic
John Simon had said about CP Snow: 'He sees two cultures
where I see barely one.' (Raymond Sokolov, _Why We Eat
What We Eat: How Columbus Changed the Way the World
Eats_, thanks to Google Books)
I remember the quotation attributed to Simon
Dear all,
As of November, Google Groups is dumping all its blackboard like features
and becoming just a listserv, near as I can figure out. They suggest that
you scrape your gg site of all its content and migrate it to a google site
or to google docs. This, of course, is done
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:44 -0400, Ted Carmichael
teds...@gmail.com wrote:
BTW - I wouldn't say the expert cannot explain why he has reached
a certain conclusion. Largely speaking, she can. A blind person
can tell you exactly what all the little raised dots and patterns
mean. I just mean
lrudo...@meganet.net wrote circa 10/14/2010 10:31 AM:
Having
myself come to the conclusion that _The American
Scholar_ was a piece of shit (during at least
part of Epstein's tenure as editor), I have
good reason to conclude that he's not a very
good editor, pretty good reason (I think)
to
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:56 -0700, glen e. p. ropella
g...@agent-based-modeling.com wrote:
I'll say that it would be
interesting to study the extent to which attack or negative
political ads lower the credibility of their target versus when (beyond
what threshold) they actually lower the
On 14 Oct 2010 at 14:56, glen e. p. ropella wrote:
lrudo...@meganet.net wrote circa 10/14/2010 10:31 AM:
Having
myself come to the conclusion that _The American
Scholar_ was a piece of shit (during at least
part of Epstein's tenure as editor), I have
good reason to conclude that he's
If you look at poling figures in realclearpolitics.com you can see the
effect of extensive advertising on the public. Assume that everybody is
using negative adds in the last two weeks. Watch the curves move.
The conventional wisdom is that negative advertising drags the shooter down
with the
Back to the original purpose of the 10 literary fiction works one
should read to
be considered literature literate: what was the purpose of the
original question?
What does it mean to be literate in literature?
1. Just to have read the 'great works' of fiction?
2. To read a great example
a well known quote -- it's the on fourth page of Joyce's masterpiece, as I trow
all Friamers must know. I loved the bestbeloved bestbook bash, and was
amazed that Ulysses headed the list. It is indeed great literature, or so they
say, but how does an ordinary yobbo read it? I was educated
I doubt it.
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:15 PM, plissa...@comcast.net wrote:
Am I alone in my ignorance?
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As the poser of the original question...
The Case for a Literary Education (as portrayed in my Joseph Epstein
post) did little to justify the effort in my mind. I felt I could come
up with a better justification. But then I reflected that it depends on
one's time of life.
For college age
May be Art is a personality amplifier. If you have a great
personality Art makes it better. If you are as wicked as sin, through
Art you will become more so. A little like computers are productivity
amplifiers (but I don't know who said this first). If you are a time
waster... there's an
Apart from a bunch of neat stuff, see The Mix Reality Goban at:
http://www.dcexpo.jp/en/
At the Digital Contents Expo 2010 in Tokyo which goes through
October 17 a man plays go as the images of the pieces are placed
and moved by a projector with
Ambient Pixel, LLC (formalization of AnySurface(tm) technology ala
SimTable(tm) ) needs more people to pursue more vertical markets
(e.g. the GO market, or board games, or ...) any GO enthusiasts
ready to go?
Is there a (paid) market?
Imagine on step
Ok, so what would be the value proposition (VP) in such a device?
If there's no VP there's no way to do the marketing. With the
Kindle you can have thousands of books with you in just a few ounces
of hardware - a big improvement in that sense.
For the board games
Maybe instrument the stones? There is something satisfying about
their physicality. I can see using the projection for a remote
game, but I want to use 'real' stones on my side of the virtual
world. Some network interface through the board where they could
talk to their
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