Re: [FRIAM] Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread Alfredo Covaleda Vélez
Tom In Argentina and Uruguay Y is pronounced almost like your sh in shopping. In general in Colombia there isn´t difference in the pronunciation of LL an Y. 2014-02-23 23:40 GMT-05:00 Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com: Well, since we've gone this far... I have yet to land on a singular

Re: [FRIAM] Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread lrudolph
Nick, Don't apologize--take the tack that Wayne O'Neil took in his lexicographic introduction to (at least the first edition of) the American Heritage dictionary: English spelling includes a *lot* of useful information about the history and otherwise-hidden relationships of our words. (I'd

Re: [FRIAM] Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
Alfredo, Unfortunately, most documents in the U.S., including newspapers, social security cards, etc., omit the accents and tildes. I suspect that the New Mexico driver’s license of my friend Iván Ordóñez says “Ivan Ordonez”. I wonder whether the New York Times follows this tradition. Do

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread Parks, Raymond
Nick needs to switch to Lojban - http://www.lojban.org/ - then his written language will perfectly match his spoken language and he will be unintelligible to all but a small fraction of the human race. The pronunciation vs. spelling problem is like the QWERTY vs Dvorak problem is like the

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Tufte on Users (via twitter)

2014-02-24 Thread Parks, Raymond
Perhaps I'm naive, but what is the other industry? Ray Parks Consilient Heuristician/IDART Program Manager V: 505-844-4024 M: 505-238-9359 P: 505-951-6084 NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov SIPR: rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov (send NIPR reminder) JWICS: dopa...@doe.ic.gov (send NIPR reminder) On Feb

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Tufte on Users (via twitter)

2014-02-24 Thread Owen Densmore
Drugs On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Parks, Raymond rcpa...@sandia.gov wrote: Perhaps I'm naive, but what is the other industry? Ray Parks Consilient Heuristician/IDART Program Manager V: 505-844-4024 M: 505-238-9359 P: 505-951-6084 NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov SIPR:

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Tufte on Users (via twitter)

2014-02-24 Thread Parks, Raymond
Hmmm… that's true for both legal and illegal drugs. And computers have an addictive aspect, both for individual humans as well as corporate persons. Ray Parks Consilient Heuristician/IDART Program Manager V: 505-844-4024 M: 505-238-9359 P: 505-951-6084 NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov SIPR:

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Parks, Raymond
Because I end up providing tech support, I suggest that they use what I use. I use the cheapest technology, with the best future, that supports my existing activity (i.e. legacy/backwards compatibility). By best future, I mean both future-proofing (i.e. it won't transition to the backwards

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread Nick Thompson
Ray, And Russia under the Bolshevik's, right? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Parks, Raymond

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: FPI 210

2014-02-24 Thread Parks, Raymond
Mike Hightower and others at Sandia have been predicting that water will be (perhaps already is) the critical resource at the root of social unrest and change in our era. Water is needed for life sustainment, it's needed for food production, and it's heavily intertwined with energy production.

Re: [FRIAM] Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread Alfredo Covaleda Vélez
Yes, and you always use the accent in the first syllable. 2014-02-24 11:30 GMT-05:00 Frank Wimberly wimber...@gmail.com: Alfredo, Unfortunately, most documents in the U.S., including newspapers, social security cards, etc., omit the accents and tildes. I suspect that the New Mexico

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread glen
On 02/22/2014 04:32 PM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: On 2/21/14 8:50 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: But what? They really want to know. If they don't know what they want, why do they want it? Marcus' question is critical. Any answer I give will depend on their answer to that. On 02/21/2014 07:50

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: FPI 210

2014-02-24 Thread Roger Critchlow
The IEEE noticed that peak copper is coming this century, too. 1 years we've been mining all the copper we wanted, no trouble, but sometime before 2100 the tide turns. If you think there's been a lot of copper theft lately, just wait till the prices double a few more times. But the real

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-24 Thread Parks, Raymond
If you want real MEGO, try keeping track of buzzword-intensive, copycat, security theatre, snake oil products. Actually, I should describe them as hydra products - when we assess one and point out the problems, it gets sold to someone higher up the corporate food chain, rebranded, and a new

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: FPI 210

2014-02-24 Thread Merle Lefkoff
Is this really news? I think we already know that humans are rapidly diminishing the resources of Mother Earth, the community on which our own existence and well-being depends. Enough with predictions about the coming catastrophe. Enough with the blah, blah. We're running out of time, guys.

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 02/24/2014 10:12 AM, glen wrote: Email? Buy your own domain name and a virtual private server from a local hosting company ... again, have them install Debian on it for you. Pay them to set it up, if you have to. Use that for your e-mail.

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: FPI 210

2014-02-24 Thread Parks, Raymond
Unfortunately, water is not a renewable resource - there is a limit on the amount of water on the Earth (barring minor variances). There is a lot of water on the Earth that is not potable (i.e. the oceans) and it is possible to convert that water to potable, but that conversion requires

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Tufte on Users (via twitter)

2014-02-24 Thread Arlo Barnes
I was just reading an articlehttp://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail_pr.html from 2004 in WIRED magazine about the Long Tail - the idea that most of a market is not the most popular items, but the mass of niche items that specific people will buy. In conventional brick-and-mortar stores, it

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread glen
Well, it's less about grudges or even disagreements about business practices or technology, and more about what you _learn_ from using a service/tool. If the objective is to learn, which I argue it should be, at least to some satisficing extent, then you want translucent tools/services. If

Re: [FRIAM] QRE: Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread Tom Carter
Credited on the InterWeb to Mark Twain: A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling: For example, in Year 1 that useless letter c would be dropped to be replased either by k or s, and likewise x would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which c would be retained would be

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 2/24/14, 12:03 PM, glen wrote: Well, it's less about grudges or even disagreements about business practices or technology, and more about what you _learn_ from using a service/tool. If the objective is to learn, which I argue it should be, at least to some satisficing extent, then you

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Arlo Barnes
.aspx, so you can see the disdain before clicking ;) I liked that post, it seemed sincere - but the (extensive) comments provide more depth. You have people commenting that never use MS, always use MS, or use a mix. In each of those categories, there are various levels of animosity or lack

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread glen
On 02/24/2014 11:27 AM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: Well, I want to know about compilers, because I depend on compilers for my work. For me, a satisfactory understanding there is a higher bar than understanding, say, how a car works. For that I can understand enough to type the 1-800 number for

Re: [FRIAM] QRE: Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread Arlo Barnes
While I certainly would not try making the US (or any Anglophone country) convert, I kinda like how post-year-20 English looks. A friend of mine made a conlang called v0tgil http://reddit.com/r/v0tgil#LookInTheSidebar, which uses some of the same alterations. -Arlo James Barnes

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 02/24/2014 01:00 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote: but current things like UEFI deals (which gave me an annoying several nights a few months back) and the all-or-nothing manner in which their programs interact; because the community college here bought institutional Office licenses, their

Re: [FRIAM] QRE: Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread lrudolph
Nick: Nyaaah! Nyaaah! As we used to say when we were six. In 1968, my then-girlfriend (long since become a Mad Bomber at Los Alamos--her graduate degree was in astrophysics) provided what is has just now become fresh evidence of something-or-other relevant to this thread: having learned

[FRIAM] IS: Blather about English pronunciation, WAS: QRE: Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread Nick Thompson
Lee, Subject Line changed to unbend Frank's thread. Your last post is such a wonderful example of itself, I will leave it as the last word on the subject of language education and orthography. (which, come to think of it, has not very much to do with the spelling of Spanish surnames. By

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 01:47:48PM -0700, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: On 02/24/2014 01:00 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote: but current things like UEFI deals (which gave me an annoying several nights a few months back) and the all-or-nothing manner in which their programs interact; because the community

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 02/24/2014 04:01 PM, Russell Standish wrote: If and when it becomes important, I'll try to pick up a cheap license from Microsoft, and install it in a Virtual Machine. Isn't that the sane thing to do anyway? Secure booting into Linux? Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 03:59:41PM -0700, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: On 02/24/2014 04:01 PM, Russell Standish wrote: If and when it becomes important, I'll try to pick up a cheap license from Microsoft, and install it in a Virtual Machine. Isn't that the sane thing to do anyway? Secure

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 02/24/2014 04:27 PM, Russell Standish wrote: Not necessarily. Sometimes Linux on Windows is better, which I have done occasionally. Anyway, Apple hardware uses UEFI too, so it's a non-argument to blame Microsoft for advocating that firmware standards should progress. And the SteamOS game

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 04:36:46PM -0700, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: On 02/24/2014 04:27 PM, Russell Standish wrote: Not necessarily. Sometimes Linux on Windows is better, which I have done occasionally. Anyway, Apple hardware uses UEFI too, so it's a non-argument to blame Microsoft for

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Spelling of Spanish Surnames

2014-02-24 Thread Parks, Raymond
What flame wars did the Bolsheviks settle? Ray Parks Consilient Heuristician/IDART Program Manager V: 505-844-4024 M: 505-238-9359 P: 505-951-6084 NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov SIPR: rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov (send NIPR reminder) JWICS: dopa...@doe.ic.gov (send NIPR reminder) On Feb 24, 2014,

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-24 Thread Gary Schiltz
Knowing the limits of one’s own knowledge is an admirable trait, i.e. the more you know, the more you realize how much you don’t know. What really gripes me are people who seem to get some kind of perverse pleasure in their own ignorance. “Oh, that’s way too complex for me to understand” is not