Re: [FRIAM] My Work On Earth Is Not Yet Done

2022-10-19 Thread thompnickson2
Hi, Dave, See Larding below Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 2:05 PM To:

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

2022-10-19 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: < So we might be able to measure the "emotion" of a chatbot by observing something like "stress" in the execution of the algorithm. If, for example, there's a recursive "subroutine" inside it, a deep iteration of that "subroutine" might indicate a more "stressful" prompt, whereas

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

2022-10-19 Thread Frank Wimberly
Based on his Facebook info, Jan died. One of his friends gives the details. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Oct 19, 2022, 2:13 PM Douglass Carmichael wrote: > Hard to imagine a computer saying “that’s disgusting” with

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

2022-10-19 Thread Douglass Carmichael
Hard to imagine a computer saying “that’s disgusting” with conviction. Ps: anyone know what happened to Jan Hauser? I can’t reach him from California.He did have a heart event' > On Oct 19, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: > > The test is whether reasonably appropriate emotions arise

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

2022-10-19 Thread Russ Abbott
The test is whether reasonably appropriate emotions arise without the entity being told which emotions it should have--not whether it can generate text consistent with a specified emotion. -- Russ On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 4:55 PM Prof David West wrote: > Maybe lack of emotion, but ability to

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

2022-10-19 Thread Jochen Fromm
Emotions are related to a body. I don't think they are absolutely necessary, but I think some kind of body is indeed necessary to develop a form of consciousness. A body which can move around in two different but interconnected worlds, for instance the physical or a virtual world and the world

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

2022-10-19 Thread Gillian Densmore
Umm fun fact: the reason so much Ai development uses female models first is because of a much easier timer 'reading' the Ai's emotions. Yeah yeah. back in the day geeks being single males, was why. Now it turns out it's much easier to predict and model female ai's . Male Ai's for what ever

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

2022-10-19 Thread Steve Smith
On 10/18/22 10:21 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: A deep learning system set up for next sentence prediction, one that consumed gigabytes of literature, would learn to mimic emotions as expressed in writing.   It would likely have mappings of context and events to plausible emotional

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2022-10-19 Thread Stephen Guerin
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Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

2022-10-19 Thread glen
This is another example of where List's "Levels of Description and Levels of Reality" paper might help. In chronic pain research, they have a severe disadvantage compared to many other medical fields because it straddles biological and psycho-social domains. Psycho-social measures are (mostly)