[FRIAM] Husserl and James: Gift of the Magi - Stanislaw GPT

2023-06-05 Thread Steve Smith
OK... so I took my own bait.   Anyone familiar with James and Husserl will probably see the "obvious" flaws in GPT's characterization of their relationship. In my own humble opinion, GPT did not fully rise to the occasion of overlaying Lem's style (or his primary characters Trurl and

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-05 Thread Steve Smith
On 6/5/23 12:24 PM, glen wrote: I try to be careful about my allusions to "openness". I attribute (perhaps wrongly) the openness of science to Critical Rationalism (Popper, but better described by David Miller). Good (and bad) ideas can come from *anywhere*. The "problem with having an open

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-05 Thread glen
I try to be careful about my allusions to "openness". I attribute (perhaps wrongly) the openness of science to Critical Rationalism (Popper, but better described by David Miller). Good (and bad) ideas can come from *anywhere*. Even those miracle people like FGJ Perey can come up with bad

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-05 Thread Marcus Daniels
One might guess that we have independent minds because of the risk of a shared mind going mad. Oh wait, people are going mad anyway. From: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:14 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism What expertise I have

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-05 Thread Steve Smith
What expertise I have is often manifest by a gut instinct that something is a bad idea.   I’m curious what daydreaming or brainstorming is like with gut feelings informed by all the things GPT systems have seen.    To me that sounds much more efficient than trying to communicate with Siri or

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-05 Thread Steve Smith
If/when/as AI (such a broad term, no?) can be used in the mode you describe here somewhat transparently I would likely be open to an "augmented intuition" mode of use and as a point of gratuitous contention, how *does* one tell the difference between "stupid nonsense" and "an abductive

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-05 Thread Marcus Daniels
What expertise I have is often manifest by a gut instinct that something is a bad idea. I’m curious what daydreaming or brainstorming is like with gut feelings informed by all the things GPT systems have seen.To me that sounds much more efficient than trying to communicate with Siri or

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-05 Thread glen
But this misses the point, I think. And, in fact, I think it's a mistake to focus too much on (natural) language models at all, even for things that *seem* to be all about language, like philosophy. I'm most interested in the concept of an embedding .

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-05 Thread Steve Smith
Marcus - Even though I play the Luddite most of the time, I am in fact fascinated with the possibilities of post/transhumanism, at least in the sense that it feels "inevitable".   With the implied magnitude of qualitative change in Homo this-n-that to /Homo postHomo /or maybe /Homo Cyborgis/

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-05 Thread Prof David West
What James is talking about / alluding to: A - Hallucinogens (which he did experience) where the "preconceived notions of theories" are disrupted, and one gropes to make sense of what is apprehended. But, this is only a partial example as multiple perceptual filters, "oh wow the colors, the

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-05 Thread David Eric Smith
Very good Frank. Smacked for making generalizations. As it should be. Eric > On Jun 5, 2023, at 10:48 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > As one of the few, if not the only, person who has been a full time employee > of a philosophy department for multiple years, I am quick to defend my former