Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera Zen

2010-10-14 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Again, I suggest the evidence is exactly the opposite! You assert that the art expert needs lots of mental space to fill with his experiences of past real and fake statues. I suggest that he needs less and less mental space the more expert he gets (and that this is typically what we mean by

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera Zen

2010-10-14 Thread Roger Critchlow
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:51 AM, ERIC P. CHARLES e...@psu.edu wrote: To connect this with the other thread, and Rich's eloquent statement, the transcendent person is LESS complicated than the average person. They have let go of unnecessary complications. When you accept everyone and let them

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera Zen

2010-10-14 Thread Ted Carmichael
I think we are talking past each other. By mental space I'm talking about storage; you seem to be talking about processing. Yes, the expert can process faster, more efficiently. But that is because more mental space has been dedicated to storing specific patterns and their combinations, and

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera Zen

2010-10-14 Thread Raymond Parks
Ted Carmichael wrote: BTW - I wouldn't say the expert cannot explain why he has reached a certain conclusion. Largely speaking, she can. A blind person can tell you exactly what all the little raised dots and patterns mean. I just mean that, as expertise is built up, this process of

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera Zen

2010-10-14 Thread Carl Tollander
More complex, less complicated. Knowledge or ontology becomes more robust if it is independently *accessible*, whereas expertise is the fluidity of understanding what knowledge is most *reachable*, given some variety of current contexts. So its more topological (what's the most or least

Re: [FRIAM] Expertise, etcetera Zen

2010-10-14 Thread Prof David West
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:44 -0400, Ted Carmichael teds...@gmail.com wrote: BTW - I wouldn't say the expert cannot explain why he has reached a certain conclusion. Largely speaking, she can. A blind person can tell you exactly what all the little raised dots and patterns mean. I just mean