Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-19 Thread glen
Owen Densmore wrote at 03/18/2012 12:02 PM: Larry Lessig apparently has two interesting views on AE 1 - Anonymous contributions: He's not bothered by them, mainly because not even the AE candidates will know who they are, thus not having power over the candidate. Re: Lessig's anonymity

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-18 Thread Owen Densmore
Larry Lessig apparently has two interesting views on AE 1 - Anonymous contributions: He's not bothered by them, mainly because not even the AE candidates will know who they are, thus not having power over the candidate. 2 - Occupy AE: If enough of us jump on AE, it could swing it in a favorable

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-16 Thread glen
I don't think it would help me. An e-mail directly to me might make me feel like one of the cool kids. But my main concern is the sense that Americans Elect is a corporation, not a democratic process. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for corporations to the right purpose and context. But AECorp

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-16 Thread Douglas Roberts
This article sums up my feelings on the subject: http://www.cnbc.com/id/46692982 --Doug On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:58 AM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote: I don't think it would help me. An e-mail directly to me might make me feel like one of the cool kids. But my main concern is the sense

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-16 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect? This article sums up my feelings on the subject: http://www.cnbc.com/id/46692982 --Doug On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:58 AM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote: I don't think it would help me. An e-mail directly to me might make

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-16 Thread Steve Smith
I share your (various) doubts about the people behind the AE process, but I *do* welcome the concept of a more open and engaged and egalitarian process for supporting existing politicians who are not insiders at the big show (e.g. Kucenich, Gary Johnson) and for maybe

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-16 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Steve Smith wrote at 03/16/2012 10:54 AM: But to be honest, the important question is what *would* be a better process/circumstance for all of this? Who *could* foster/muster something like this. I'd be equally (differently) scared if it were GoogleZon doing it... like Vote.Google.com ?

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-16 Thread Gillian Densmore
I feer the only way to 'get things' done is to convert to a technocracyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracyand possible a parimenatarian one at that-but short of that--yeah my issue with AECorp is it isn't transparent-not that the democracts/repubs are but that'd be a start if possible-i'm

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-16 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - I agree that winner-take-all system highly reinforces a (superficially) polarized 2-party circumstance... Gil - I used to be pro-Technocracy, but as a Technologist myself, I don't trust/believe in my own peers any more than than I do the *rest* of the unwashed masses. While I find

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-15 Thread Gillian Densmore
That might help. I know I used to get emails from them mostly about what to make there logo to look like. Part of the problem at least on my end is lac of transperency and comunication. Maybe I needed to somehow know I needed to watch the forums or something. Even then discus ala FRIAM would(V)

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-14 Thread Steve Smith
What is everyone (else's) current take on the Americans Elect at this point? I just took the time to (re)sign up and go through about 100 questions and then looked at the draft candidates and at the questions being put forth for debate by the candidates somewhere down the line. Overall I was

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-03-14 Thread glen
I'm still waiting for them to say something interesting. I'm watching some candidates. I won't commit to sending them my social security number and birth date until I have evidence that they're credible. FYI, I enjoy this website re: americans elect:

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-01-09 Thread glen
Steve Smith wrote circa 12-01-09 01:51 PM: Isn't this what Americans Elect (among other things) trying to address? After the initial flurry of discussion about this group, I've seen nothing else here. I was disturbed by certain things about them but as an alternative mechanism, maybe

Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?

2012-01-09 Thread Greg Sonnenfeld
I wouldn't worry about their bad questions or money requests. Just ignore those until they are fixed and vote in the primary :P Greg Sonnenfeld “The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and