Re: [FRIAM] a further tangent

2012-03-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
This is a great idea. But ONLY if we think of it as a remedy, not as a remediation. I would always argue for the minimalification of latinate suffixes. But it really is a great idea. Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On

Re: [FRIAM] a further tangent

2012-03-27 Thread lrudolph
Nick, I didn't (and wouldn't) use the noun remediation (at least, not to mean remedy). As verbs, remediate and remedy have different senses to me (and to the OED). In particular, the OED says (and I agree--though I don't claim this was in my mind) that remediate includes the sense of

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Dear Doug, I am afraid that the black hole example is already too technologically dense for me, so I am going to punt on the project of luring you inside my walls and slaughtering you there, and just out-right tell you what I think . The argument began with my detecting in you (perhaps

Re: [FRIAM] a further tangent

2012-03-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
With apologies to everyone but Lee: The word remediation could be two entirely different words, one arising from remedy and the other arising from mediate. The first mediation failed, so we agreed to remedy the situation by conducting a remediation is a perfectly intelligible sentence without

[FRIAM] tangents upon tangents!

2012-03-27 Thread lrudolph
With apologies to everyone but Lee: The word remediation could be two entirely different words, one arising from remedy and the other arising from mediate. The first mediation failed, so we agreed to remedy the situation by conducting a remediation is a perfectly intelligible sentence

[FRIAM] Depth peeling successfully implemented in WebGL

2012-03-27 Thread Bruce Sherwood
In the easy-to-use WebGL-based GlowScript 3D programming environment (glowscript.org) you can now specify the opacity of an object (other than curve, ring, and helix). The following statement creates a cyan-colored cube that has low opacity (high transparency): box( {color.cyan, opacity:0.2 } )

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-27 Thread Douglas Roberts
Thanks, Nick, you describe an interesting way of establishing a life-view. Not quite sure how to answer, except to say that if I have faith in anything, it is in evidence. If I have accrued a sufficient pile of evidence that supports a conclusion about some observation, then I'll probably

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Doug wrote In retrospect, I suppose I do have faith in one other fairly immutable quality -- the accuracy of my bullshit detector Well, why not. it's always worked in the past .. . Nick From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Douglas

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-27 Thread Douglas Roberts
Very clever. --Doug On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Doug wrote ** ** In retrospect, I suppose I do have faith in one other fairly immutable quality -- the accuracy of my bullshit detector ** ** Well, why not. it’s

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-27 Thread Russ Abbott
Nice gloss of Goodman. But it also suggests a problem with philosophy: the need to make *demonstrably true* statements. Induction in mathematics is a proof technique. When applied to reality it doesn't work because the axiom of induction isn't available for reality. But then notion of a *true

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Dear Doug and Russ, Russ, I have been reading a lot of CS Peirce who defines truth as what will in the long run be agreed upon if we keep doing science about the world, and “real’ as all that is true, as that upon which rational inquiry converges. It’s a strange view, but it seems to

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-27 Thread Robert Holmes
I like C D Broad's take on this: Induction is the glory of science and the scandal of philosophy. (1926, The Philosophy of Francis Bacon). I think there's a lot of truth in this... induction is simply not a problem for science and scientists. Scientists have used induction to give the most

[FRIAM] Clarifying Induction Threads

2012-03-27 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Owen, As I understand it: Doug announced his ordination. After a bit of banter, Doug made some generalizations about religious and non-religious people based on his past experience but... the ability to draw conclusions from past experience is a bit philosophically mysterious. The seeming

Re: [FRIAM] Clarifying Induction Threads

2012-03-27 Thread Russ Abbott
The inductive argument for induction [paraphrased from Eric]: The fact that induction has been so successful in the past should convince of its usefulness in the future. *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State