Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/17/13 6:32 PM, Parks, Raymond wrote: Sooner or later, someone will steal one of the cameras, RE it, and find some sort of common password, backdoor, or other vulnerability. With a firmware update, Linksys boxes that can do 1000mw (about a 35 fold increase in power). Seems like jamming

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/17/13 11:19 AM, glen wrote: The problem with this part of the discussion is that because of the Information Age, etc. (aka population density ;-), the composition of polite behavior changes rapidly within an individual's lifetime. Add to that the mobility of individuals, and there are

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
Marcus G. Daniels wrote at 01/18/2013 08:47 AM: Politics tends to make cliques fragile because individual powerful people defect and one slightly weaker clique can quickly become a powerful clique. The rules they make to lend legitimacy to their endless conflicts can help the little guy!

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/18/13 10:14 AM, glen wrote: And that means polite behavior _must_ change because of the Information Age, etc. Yes, I see I overstated that for no good reason. Thanks. Still, I think it is important to try to push any enduring group toward polite behavior, however short-lived. Tyranny

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
Marcus G. Daniels wrote at 01/18/2013 09:19 AM: Still, I think it is important to try to push any enduring group toward polite behavior, however short-lived. OK. But the deeper problem is the definition of politeness, especially as a vanishing point ideal. To stress the point, I could argue

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/18/13 10:32 AM, glen wrote: To stress the point, I could argue that, if the clique endures, then whatever behavior they engage in already defines politeness, regardless of how impolite their behavior may seem to an outsider. I think there is a distinction. Organizations that seek to

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
Marcus G. Daniels wrote at 01/18/2013 10:12 AM: I think there is a distinction. Organizations that seek to endure need to prevent bully cliques if for no other reason than so that their officials maintain their authority, e.g. The President needs to tell the Generals what to do, not the

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/18/13 11:33 AM, glen wrote: I submit that they must have at least 2 definitions of [im]polite, one for members and one for non-members. And they'll likely have a 3rd for the boss No argument really. Just that the definitions probably at least have some constraints -- and that if they

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
Marcus G. Daniels wrote at 01/18/2013 10:47 AM: No argument really. Just that the definitions probably at least have some constraints -- and that if they aren't somehow reconcilable with the definitions of those in the out-group and the boss, then there may be trouble that damages the

[FRIAM] I simply don't understand why people call me tenacious.

2013-01-18 Thread Douglas Roberts
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Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread Steve Smith
OK... so as an example of insider/outsider behaviour, my cartoons starring Doug are a form of ribbing that has the same quality as practical jokes. I feel I know Doug well enough on and off list to know what he would find rude or hurtful and what he would not, so I am comfortable poking a

Re: [FRIAM] I simply don't understand why people call me tenacious.

2013-01-18 Thread Steve Smith
Miss the blogging days, Dr. S ... um ...? STEVE! I was going to say Dr. Steve... Hell yes (obviously), and I think you should be very askeered. Imagine if Ivan the Terrible had used a lampoon instead of a harpoon? FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] I simply don't understand why people call me tenacious.

2013-01-18 Thread Douglas Roberts
It's still fun, but it's different these days. Back then, in the bad old days, we had in essence cornered the market. Blogs were still brand new in 2004, and there had never ever been a widely available publicly available source of news about the real goings on inside a National Nuke Lab. Voila,

Re: [FRIAM] I simply don't understand why people call metenacious.

2013-01-18 Thread Douglas Roberts
The Google already offered to hire me, but that was a few months ago, and before I became tenacious on them. I believe there probably are not any user-space Android, nor kernel hacks that can completely fix the ARP dropout bug that the Qualcomm driver introduces. There are some hacks that will

Re: [FRIAM] I simply don't understand why people call metenacious.

2013-01-18 Thread mar...@snoutfarm.com
I believe there probably are not any user-space Android, nor kernel hacks that can completely fix the ARP dropout bug that the Qualcomm driver introduces. The Qualcomm driver is not in an Google public source Linux kernel tree? Is there proprietary firmware or something? If that's so, yes, burn

Re: [FRIAM] I simply don't understand why people call metenacious.

2013-01-18 Thread Douglas Roberts
Feeling the heat over here. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, mar...@snoutfarm.com mar...@snoutfarm.comwrote: I believe there probably are not any user-space Android, nor kernel hacks that can completely fix the ARP dropout bug that the Qualcomm driver introduces. The Qualcomm driver is not

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
The interesting thing about making fun of people is the amount of peripheral or contextual information that's necessary. I'm not really a fan of Louis C.K. But if you watch his stand-up, you can see him say the nastiest things without it seeming so nasty. He says these things while smiling or

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread Douglas Roberts
Well, (he said with a twinkle in his, yet hoping for a friendly riposte in return), that explains a lot. :) --Doug On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:30 PM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote: The interesting thing about making fun of people is the amount of peripheral or contextual information that's

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread Douglas Roberts
EYE! TWINKEL IN HIS FUCKING EYE! On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Well, (he said with a twinkle in his, yet hoping for a friendly riposte in return), that explains a lot. :) --Doug On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:30 PM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread Douglas Roberts
i'VE BEEN CODING ALL DAY. cAN'T SEE STRAIGHT. nOR FIND THE caps KEY. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: EYE! TWINKEL IN HIS FUCKING EYE! On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Well, (he said with a twinkle in

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread glen
Douglas Roberts wrote at 01/18/2013 02:34 PM: Well, (he said with a twinkle in his, yet hoping for a friendly riposte in return), that explains a lot. Ha! Were we in close proximity, I'd stick you in the chest with my rapier and call it a day. Alas, all I have are my ham-handed, context-free

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy vs Open Public Data

2013-01-18 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - Thanks for sharing the personal anecdote. It provides context and fodder for later ribbing if it comes to that. [*] I was practically reared in a bar called Lloyd's. Lloyd was a one-armed bartender who taught me how to open a beer with one hand at the age of about 8. Oh,

Re: [FRIAM] here we go

2013-01-18 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - Nice! You wax poetic in the latter part, which I'm incapable of paralleling. But I'll try to mimic the spirit. Well, I definitely tend to wax, I'm not quite sure how poetic it is :^) 1. Is concept space discrete or continuous (Axiom of Choice vs Landscape)? I agree that we can safely

[FRIAM] Cliques, public, private.

2013-01-18 Thread Steve Smith
Glen wrote (in response to my recent massive missive) - I will briefly match your story with one of my own, then jump to a conclusion. I used to do more tunneling than I do now. All growing up I maintained (almost disjoint) sets of acquaintances. In high school they had names: heads, jocks,