[FRIAM] 55 Conversations Later, Here’s What Our Data-And-Society Podcast Taught Me | FiveThirtyEight

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/55-conversations-later-heres-what-our-data-and-society-podcast-taught-me/ Some topics here you may find of interest. Perhaps we should livestream the Friday morning sessions. Well, some and even just parts of that. Tom (in Kuala Lumpur, soon headed to Penang

Re: [FRIAM] Model of induction

All three (Aaron Clauset and Cosma R. Shalizi and Mark E. J. Newman) have given great courses at the SFI summer school. On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 8:41 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Hi, Russell S., > > It's a long time since the old days of the Three Russell's, isn't it? >

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

Don't think about choosing. The axiom of choice says that there is a function from each set (subset) to an element of itself, as I recall. Frank Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 wimber...@gmail.com wimbe...@cal.berkeley.edu Phone: (505) 995-8715 Cell: (505)

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

Ack! Well... I guess now we're in the muck of what the heck probability and statistics are for mathematicians vs. scientists. Of note, my understanding is that statistics was a field for at least a few decades before it was specified in a formal enough way to be invited into the hallows of

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

And I completely agree with Eric. But we can language it real simply and intuitively by just looking at what a probability space is. For further simplicity lets keep it to a finite probability space. (Neither a finite nor an infinite one says anything about "time".) A finite probability space

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

Hi Glen, et al, Thanks for cashing mu $0.02 check. :-) When I wrote that "but it doesn't have to be" I wasn't asserting that probability theory is devoid of events. Events are fundamental to probability theory. They are the outcomes to which probability is assigned. In a nutshell, the

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

Well, sure. But the point is that the axiom of choice asserts, merely, the existence of the ability to choose a subset. They call them "choice functions", as if there exists some "chooser". But there's no sense of time (before the choice function is applied versus after it's applied). The

[FRIAM] Fwd: In Memoriam: Thomas C. Schelling

A message from Yaneer: In Memoriam: Thomas C. Schelling December 13, 2016 Tom Schelling, master of the important idea in a complex world, passed away, Tuesday, December 13, 2016. His work on mutual assured destruction and on segregation showed he knew what the most important questions were and

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

Glen, Okay, given some of the later postings against the original question, I am thinking that your question may have morphed or that I have completely misunderstood what you are asking. Not sure. For example, somehow we have gone from probability theory and its ontological status to the

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: In Memoriam: Thomas C. Schelling

Thanks so much for the memory--one of my first aha! moments as I discovered Complexity science was watching Schelling's segregation ABM. On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: > A message from Yaneer: > > > In Memoriam: Thomas C. Schelling >

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

Well, my question hasn't been addressed satisfactorily. But I sincerely appreciate all the different ways everyone has tried to talk about it. My question is about language, not math or statistics. I'm adept enough at those. What I'm having trouble with in the argument (the guy's name is

Re: [FRIAM] Model of induction

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 08:41:12PM -0700, Nick Thompson wrote: > Hi, Russell S., > > It's a long time since the old days of the Three Russell's, isn't it? Where > have all the Russell's gone? Good to hear from you. > > This has been a humbling experience. My brother was a mathematician and

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: In Memoriam: Thomas C. Schelling

Ah, the mortality is getting thick. My high school buddy Aaron had a fatal massive heart attack in August. My sister-in-law Mimi succumbed to cancer on October 30 while I was flying back from visiting her and my brother. Dave Weininger, master of chemical information, passed away on November 2.

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: In Memoriam: Thomas C. Schelling

Yes, having left Carnegie Mellon in 1998 I occasionally inquire about former colleagues only to learn that they are deceased. Fienberg's office was down the hall from mine but I didn't know him well. On the other hand I can count about 10 whom I did know well. Most were younger than I. Did you

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

Hey Glen, Yes, on the first issue with respect to the Axiom of Choice, I think the word "choice" there does not map one-for-one to the same word used in probability theory. I think the two concepts are mutually exclusive, but this may be beyond my "pay grade" to worry or talk about. 蘿 However, I

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: In Memoriam: Thomas C. Schelling

You're right, Roger. We must pay more attention to the dearest live ones. On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 7:45 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > Ah, the mortality is getting thick. My high school buddy Aaron had a > fatal massive heart attack in August. My sister-in-law Mimi succumbed to >

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: In Memoriam: Thomas C. Schelling

All the old men (and women) are dying! Is it a sign or is it a portent of things to come that Leonard Cohen and Fidel Castro both checked out soon with the election!? Thanks Roger for letting us know about Weininger and Fienberg... I hadn't heard. On 12/14/16 7:45 PM, Roger Critchlow

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

Ha! Yay! Yes, now I feel like we're discussing the radicality (radicalness?) of Platonic math ... and how weird mathematicians sound (to me) when they say we're discovering theorems rather than constructing them. 8^) Perhaps it's helpful to think about the "axiom of choice"? Is a

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

Thanks! Everything you say seems to land squarely in my opponent's camp, with the focus on the concept of an action or event, requiring some sort of partially ordered index (like time). But you included the clause "but doesn't have to be". I'd like to hear more about what you conceive

Re: [FRIAM] (amused): Re: Spam solutions

Yeah. I think the blurbs I read talk sugested them. YAR! Their was some other company I can't remember the name of sugested in my search. They're working with google somehow so as Google-Voice works with them somehow. One part of the issue is these guys (illegally) use fake names and numbers. The