Re: [FRIAM] When is something complex

2007-09-19 Thread Glen E. P. Ropella
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mikhail Gorelkin wrote: ...let's use this: the minimal description, which works. ? --Mikhail The problem is whether or not complexity is an inherent property or an ascribed attribute. If it's an ascribed attribute, then the above is as good a

Re: [FRIAM] When is something complex

2007-09-19 Thread Günther Greindl
Hi, Mikhail Gorelkin wrote: Just two thoughts: 1) it seems that complexity is a more fundamental category than linearity / non-linearity, which are parts of a sophisticated ***formal*** system; How would you imagine a complex system which is not non-linear? I would say that linear =

Re: [FRIAM] When is something complex

2007-09-19 Thread Mikhail Gorelkin
Hi Günther, That article in Wiki about Kolmogorov complexity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolmogorov_complexity answers all these questions perfectly - better than me :-( ? Regards, --Mikhail - Original Message - From: Günther Greindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Friday Morning Applied

Re: [FRIAM] When is something complex

2007-09-19 Thread Carl Tollander
Could you say why those points are 'problems'? It seems to me that a situated explanatory complexity (as opposed to descriptive) works fine (I'm not necessarily suggesting it's better) so long as you have situated the equivalences sufficiently. Ascribed (interesting word) can be just as