Re: [FRIAM] 0 years ago today - Our Owen Densmore as a leading star on stage with Jobs unveiling the first Macintosh

2024-01-30 Thread Gillian Densmore 
Jobs and Dad (Owen) had some differences (being polite). Was one of the
reasons he went to SUN, IIRC it also had a infamously unhealthy work/life
balance. The mac team also was cutting it very close to get a working(ish)
computer for steve jobs to show off. The mac team had some 'unexpected
features' (bugs) at least on the software level, and IIRC hardware side as
well before it could be shipped. I always thought it sounded a little like
steve hawkings.

On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:54 PM Stephen Guerin 
wrote:

> The 1984 Macintosh Ad
> 
> shown during the Jan 22 Superbowl teased the Jan 26, 1984 introduction of
> the Mac at the  Apple Shareholders meeting (I don't have the video).  Jobs
> did a demo and then a panel discussion with 8 members of the software and
> hardware team  The whole presentation including the developer panel was
> repeated 4 days later at a Boston Computer Society meeting. Our Owen
> Densmore is one of those 8 as the software engineer lured from Xerox to
> work on WYSIWIG printing and embedding a software rendering engine in the
> printer itself. here's the time codes of these discussions
>
>- https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=1336 – Jobs explaining
>the printer
>- https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=1741 - Owen
>introduction
>- https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=2379 - Randy Wigginton
>nods to Owen’s printer work
>- https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=2683 - Printing
>question answered by Jobs and Owen
>- https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=3352 - Owen gets up to
>get a floppy disk :]
>- https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=3744 - Owen comments
>on the Mac’s multi-tasking abilities
>
> Owen left Apple to join Sun in the last half of the 80s and worked on NeWS
> - postscipt-based windowing system.
> NeXT would later adopt instead of QuickDraw for its windowing system.
>
> When Jobs was at NeXT, he gave this talk at MIT Sloan School
> 
>  ~8
> years later. In the talk, I find his observations interesting esp wrt to
> how important printing and desktop publishing would be for the Mac and they
> didn't predict it.
>
> *When we did the Macintosh, we never anticipated desktop publishing when we 
> created the Mac. Sounds funny, because that turned out to be the Mac's 
> compelling advantage, right? The thing that it did not one and a
> half or two times better than everything else, but four or five times better 
> than anything else, where you had to have one. We never anticipated it. We 
> anticipated bitmap displays and laser printers, but we never thought about 
> pagemaker, that whole industry really coming down to the desktop. Maybe we 
> weren't smart enough.*
>
>
> *But we were smart enough to see it start to happen nine to 12 months later. 
> And we changed our entire marketing and business strategy to focus on desktop 
> publishing, and it became the Trojan horse that eventually got the Mac into 
> corporate America, where it could show its owners all the other wonderful 
> things it could do.*
>
> Apple has Owen to thank for that!
>
> Redfish, btw, was an Apple VAR in the early 90s helping commercial
> printers to prepress - digital scanning, digital halftoning, color
> separation, digital imaging (early photoshop), plate-ready film printing,
> and page layout (QuarkXpress and PageMaker). Of course, I didn't know Owen
> yet - I would first meet him at the 2000 Complex Systems Summer School
> where we were both students from the BusNet. I was from BiosGroup and Owen
> from Sun R Labs.
>
> Mad respect for your changing the world, Owen! And you ain't done yet. :-)
>
> -Stephen
>
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Re: [FRIAM] 0 years ago today - Our Owen Densmore as a leading star on stage with Jobs unveiling the first Macintosh

2024-01-30 Thread Jochen Fromm 
Wow, the young Steve Jobs and Owen on the same stage, together with Andrew 
Hertzfeld and Bill Atkinson. I didn't know he knew all of them. Has he got 
Apple shares as compensation back then? Apple shares from 1984 must be worth a 
fortune now.-J.
 Original message From: Stephen Guerin 
 Date: 1/30/24  9:55 PM  (GMT+01:00) To: The 
Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group , 
"Wedtech@Redfish. Com"  Subject: [FRIAM] 0 years ago today 
- Our Owen Densmore as a leading star on stage with Jobs unveiling the first 
Macintosh The 1984 Macintosh Ad shown during the Jan 22 Superbowl teased the 
Jan 26, 1984 introduction of the Mac at the  Apple Shareholders meeting (I 
don't have the video). 

Jobs did a demo and then a panel discussion with 8 members of the software and 
hardware team  The whole presentation including the developer panel was 
repeated 4 days later at a Boston Computer Society meeting. Our Owen Densmore 
is one of those 8 as the software engineer lured from Xerox to work on WYSIWIG 
printing and embedding a software rendering engine in the printer itself. 
here's the time codes of these 
discussionshttps://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=1336 – Jobs explaining 
the printerhttps://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=1741 - Owen 
introductionhttps://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=2379 - Randy 
Wigginton nods to Owen’s printer 
workhttps://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=2683 - Printing question 
answered by Jobs and Owenhttps://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=3352 - 
Owen gets up to get a floppy disk 
:]https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=3744 - Owen comments on the 
Mac’s multi-tasking abilitiesOwen left Apple to join Sun in the last half of 
the 80s and worked on NeWS - postscipt-based windowing system.  NeXT would 
later adopt instead of QuickDraw for its windowing system.When Jobs was at 
NeXT, he gave this talk at MIT Sloan School ~8 years later. In the talk, I find 
his observations interesting esp wrt to how important printing and desktop 
publishing would be for the Mac and they didn't predict it. When we did the 
Macintosh, we never anticipated desktop publishing when we created the Mac. 
Sounds funny, because that turned out to be the Mac's compelling advantage, 
right? The thing that it did not one and a half or two times better than 
everything else, but four or five times better than anything else, where you 
had to have one. We never anticipated it. We anticipated bitmap displays and 
laser printers, but we never thought about pagemaker, that whole industry 
really coming down to the desktop. Maybe we weren't smart enough.But we were 
smart enough to see it start to happen nine to 12 months later. And we changed 
our entire marketing and business strategy to focus on desktop publishing, and 
it became the Trojan horse that eventually got the Mac into corporate America, 
where it could show its owners all the other wonderful things it could do.Apple 
has Owen to thank for that!Redfish, btw, was an Apple VAR in the early 90s 
helping commercial printers to prepress - digital scanning, digital halftoning, 
color separation, digital imaging (early photoshop), plate-ready film printing, 
and page layout (QuarkXpress and PageMaker). Of course, I didn't know Owen yet 
- I would first meet him at the 2000 Complex Systems Summer School where we 
were both students from the BusNet. I was from BiosGroup and Owen from Sun R 
Labs.Mad respect for your changing the world, Owen! And you ain't done yet. 
:-)-stephen_stephen.gue...@simtable.com
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[FRIAM] 0 years ago today - Our Owen Densmore as a leading star on stage with Jobs unveiling the first Macintosh

2024-01-30 Thread Stephen Guerin 
The 1984 Macintosh Ad

shown during the Jan 22 Superbowl teased the Jan 26, 1984 introduction of
the Mac at the  Apple Shareholders meeting (I don't have the video).  Jobs
did a demo and then a panel discussion with 8 members of the software and
hardware team  The whole presentation including the developer panel was
repeated 4 days later at a Boston Computer Society meeting. Our Owen
Densmore is one of those 8 as the software engineer lured from Xerox to
work on WYSIWIG printing and embedding a software rendering engine in the
printer itself. here's the time codes of these discussions

   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=1336 – Jobs explaining
   the printer
   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=1741 - Owen introduction
   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=2379 - Randy Wigginton
   nods to Owen’s printer work
   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=2683 - Printing question
   answered by Jobs and Owen
   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=3352 - Owen gets up to
   get a floppy disk :]
   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=3744 - Owen comments on
   the Mac’s multi-tasking abilities

Owen left Apple to join Sun in the last half of the 80s and worked on NeWS
- postscipt-based windowing system.
NeXT would later adopt instead of QuickDraw for its windowing system.

When Jobs was at NeXT, he gave this talk at MIT Sloan School

~8
years later. In the talk, I find his observations interesting esp wrt to
how important printing and desktop publishing would be for the Mac and they
didn't predict it.

*When we did the Macintosh, we never anticipated desktop publishing
when we created the Mac. Sounds funny, because that turned out to be
the Mac's compelling advantage, right? The thing that it did not one
and a
half or two times better than everything else, but four or five times
better than anything else, where you had to have one. We never
anticipated it. We anticipated bitmap displays and laser printers, but
we never thought about pagemaker, that whole industry really coming
down to the desktop. Maybe we weren't smart enough.*

*But we were smart enough to see it start to happen nine to 12 months
later. And we changed our entire marketing and business strategy to
focus on desktop publishing, and it became the Trojan horse that
eventually got the Mac into corporate America, where it could show its
owners all the other wonderful things it could do.*

Apple has Owen to thank for that!

Redfish, btw, was an Apple VAR in the early 90s helping commercial printers
to prepress - digital scanning, digital halftoning, color separation,
digital imaging (early photoshop), plate-ready film printing, and page
layout (QuarkXpress and PageMaker). Of course, I didn't know Owen yet - I
would first meet him at the 2000 Complex Systems Summer School where we
were both students from the BusNet. I was from BiosGroup and Owen from Sun
R Labs.

Mad respect for your changing the world, Owen! And you ain't done yet. :-)

-Stephen
_
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stephengue...@fas.harvard.edu
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