Fuggit, work can wait, the first proposal is in final edit and the second
one is under control, so why delay my response.
Re: your question of what do I find ridiculous: Not the subject of the
referenced paper, certainly. Rather our little group's pronounced tendency
to niggle and (dare I say
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote:
snip
--TrollBoi
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Stephen Guerin
stephen.gue...@redfish.com wrote:
Ok Troll-Boy, I'll bite.
...
Nick: Just for fun, I looked Troll up for us: (slightly self referential ..
Whenever I go down to Portland State University, there's a
fundamentalist preacher standing on a bench asserting that all the
people walking around are morally in danger. He talks and talks, rails
and rails. Yet the students discuss their classes or their social
networks, study their books,
Wait, to be fair, Doug simply
1 - Presented a pointer to an interesting article
2 - Explained why the article was interesting to him
Where's the problem?
I'm amazed at the article and would love to see the stunts that the program
uses to increase entropy locally .. if I get it.
-- Owen
On
Oh, and I'm 200% with Doug about our deadly embrace tendency, quibbling
about words and sucking the life out of otherwise interesting
conversations. Now *that's* trolling!
-- Owen
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote:
Wait, to be fair, Doug simply
1 -
Well, to be *totally* fair, Owen, I wasn't just pointing out an article in
one of my interest areas. I was also using it as an opportunity to gently
criticize some of my FRIAM colleagues. Just a little bit.
--Doug
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote:
glen wrote:
or playing Amen, brother games with him
The preacher and entourage can be humiliated without cost. That's worse
than the preaching IMO.
I say step up and take them apart, point by point, or stay silent.
Marcus
FRIAM
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Fuggit, work can wait, the first proposal
Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Presented for FRIAMic Consideration
Whenever I go down to Portland State University, there's a fundamentalist
preacher standing on a bench asserting that all the people walking around
are morally in danger. He talks and talks, rails and rails. Yet the
students discuss
Oh dear, I have it bad .. I really would like to discuss the article!
Oh well,
-- Owen
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: [FRIAM] Presented for FRIAMic Consideration
Oh dear, I have it bad .. I really would like to discuss the article!
Oh well,
-- Owen
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Hi Doug,
I know this isn't the main point of the thread, and perhaps already stuff you
know, in which case apologies for redundancy:
Even the events after that instant of the big bang, where it is postulated
that our universe expanded from sub-atomic dimensions, through inflation
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote:
I've never heard of inflation being attributed to the Higg's boson.
Not looking something up in Wikipedia is almost as big a sin as not
googling something…
Douglas Roberts wrote at 04/23/2013 10:33 AM:
BEFORE THE BIG BANG, OUTSIDE THE UNIVERSE...
[...]
Another concept is that of a cyclic universe. Derived from string
theory, the hypothesis postulates that our Universe is a
four-dimensional brane in a higher-dimensional space. It repetitively
Actually, Alan Guth .. who started the whole inflation thing .. went after
it initially via a thermodynamic approach. Same mexican hat.
AG also thinks GUT is misspelled .. the T is a theory so therefore should
be GUTh.
-- Owen
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:45 PM, glen e. p. ropella
Thanks Robert and Owen too,
Yes, many sins. in all possible arenas. The only limit is how fast one can
commit them
E
On Apr 23, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Robert Holmes wrote:
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote:
I've never heard of inflation being
Actually, I did look at WP, just not at that entry. As an aside, it is
fascinating in its own way how little FRIAM bullshit matters, when viewed
from behind the comfortable haze produced by Rosarita served up at the
Dragon Room.
On Apr 23, 2013 5:09 PM, Eric Smith desm...@santafe.edu wrote:
As an aside, it is
fascinating in its own way how little FRIAM bullshit matters, when viewed
from behind the comfortable haze produced by Rosarita served up at the
Dragon Room.
Why don't you put down that Nexus 4 you love so much and be sociable?
Marcus
http://phys.org/news/2013-04-emergence-complex-behaviors-causal-entropic.html
It is with much anticipation that we await the detailed discussions that
are sure to follow which will cover the meanings of emergence, complex,
behaviors, through, causal entropic, and forces.
--Doug
--
*Doug
Popcorn is popped and buttered; knees are crossed in my Adirondack chair. Carry
on.
P.
On Apr 22, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote:
http://phys.org/news/2013-04-emergence-complex-behaviors-causal-entropic.html
It is with much anticipation that we await the
+1
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Pamela McCorduck pam...@well.com wrote:
Popcorn is popped and buttered; knees are crossed in my Adirondack chair.
Carry on.
P.
On Apr 22, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote:
I don't know about you, Pamela, but I've run clean out of popcorn, and I've
already re-crossed my knees twice. Truth be known, I'm particularly keen
to follow the exposition on the meaning of the word through.
Although forces is a close second, followed of course by causal.
--Doug
On Mon, Apr
Ok Troll-Boy, I'll bite.
Here's the paper referenced in the phys.org post:
http://www.alexwg.org/publications/PhysRevLett_110-168702.pdf
Are these concepts so foreign that you hope to watch a thread thrash on the
semantics and meanings of this theoretical worldview? Is there something in
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Stephen Guerin
stephen.gue...@redfish.comwrote:
Ok Troll-Boy, I'll bite.
[...]
Doug, where do you think intelligent behavior (ie life) comes from? Do you
have a view? a pet theory? too busy?
Never too busy to respond to you, G-man. A slight time delay
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