Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
I am constantly amazed at posts like this where you make yourself sound like some sort of statistical genius because you were able to predict that since last year was %243, that this year would be %243. Wow. Really? And for the record, these claims of 'inherent insecurity' in Windows are

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread Peter Besenbruch
On Sat, 15 May 2010 14:40:29 + Thor (Hammer of God) t...@hammerofgod.com wrote: And for the record, these claims of 'inherent insecurity' in Windows are simply ignorant. If you are still running Windows 95 that's your problem. Do a little research before post assertions based on 10 or

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread Thor (Hammer Of God)
That kind of goes for everything, doesn't it? T On May 15, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Peter Besenbruch p...@lava.net wrote: On Sat, 15 May 2010 14:40:29 + Thor (Hammer of God) t...@hammerofgod.com wrote: And for the record, these claims of 'inherent insecurity' in Windows are simply

Re: [Full-disclosure] Mathematica on Linux /tmp/MathLink vulnerability

2010-05-15 Thread Marsh Ray
On 5/14/2010 6:19 AM, paul.sz...@sydney.edu.au wrote: Dear Marsh, Personal opinions (hoping not to start a flame war) on your questions: Thanks. A. Does anyone think there would be much gained by me requesting (or insisting on) a CVE number? I do not see the need for CVEs for such

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread lsi
Is that you, Bill? I think you misunderstand. 9 months ago, I measured the growth rate at 243%, using Symantec's stats. 9 months ago I posted that number here, together with a prediction of this year's stats. Recently, I got this year's stats and compared them with that prediction. I

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread lsi
An interesting point - Unicode? I don't think 5Mb files are infeasible, especially as time passes, that'll be just a blip before long. Stu On 15 May 2010 at 14:59, Christian Sciberras wrote: Date sent: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:59:46 +0100 Subject:Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows'

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
My main reason for claiming that Windows is inherently insecure is because it's closed source. As opposed to crowd sourcing, which some claim is inherently more secure because more [uneducated] eyes review the source code? This is along the lines of, 'Linux does not get viruses' argument. Give

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread BMF
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Thor (Hammer of God) t...@hammerofgod.com wrote: I am constantly amazed at posts like this where you make yourself sound like some sort of statistical genius because you were able to predict that since last year was %243, that this year would be %243. Wow.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
No, It's Tim Mullen. No Bill here. No, I don't misunderstand: You said You may recall that last year, the average annual growth rate of new threats (as defined by Symantec) was 243%. This enabled me to predict that the number of new threats in this year's Symantec Threat Report would be

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread BMF
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote: As opposed to crowd sourcing, which some claim is inherently more secure because more [uneducated] eyes review the source code? There are far more educated eyes able to review the Linux source code than the Windows source

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread rdsears
And what of the pass the hash group of attacks, not to mention the insecure hashing to begin with? Combine that with token manipulation and process migration and you have a very deadly combination to almost any windows network that you don't see anywhere else. Exploiting windows networks

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread shawn Davison
Sent from my HTC Touch Pro2 on the Now Network from SprintĀ®. -Original Message- From: BMF badmotherfs...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 4:54 PM To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise) On

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread Peter Besenbruch
On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:22:26 -0400 Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote: This is along the lines of, 'Linux does not get viruses' argument. Give me a break... I set up a dual boot arrangement on a friend's machine. The Windows side promptly got infected. The guy was furious and blamed his

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread lsi
IOW, you took what Symantec's numbers were for one year, and guessed they would be the same for this year, and then posted how you were almost right. You definitely misunderstand. AFAIK, Symantec do not publish the number 243%. I calculated it myself, using this sum: (0.92 + 3.67 + 1.64 +

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
This just gets better all the time. I have to admit, it was fun at first, but now's I grow weary, mostly because this is just sad. For you to actually think that one can't find out how much free drive space in Windows would be funny it were not so ridiculous. And it's been built into DIR

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 16 May 2010, at 04:06, Thor (Hammer of God) wrote: Oh, one last thing - your dear Pegasus 4.51 Windows-based program that you hypocritically hold on to while demonizing Windows and .NET was... wait for it wait for it written with Visual Studio 2008 C++ - a proud Microsoft

Re: [Full-disclosure] Windows' future (reprise)

2010-05-15 Thread lsi
Hi Bill! Thanks for the tip on the DIR command, I did in fact notice that, however it doesn't give percentages (or total space), AFAIK, and my monitoring bot wants percentages. My df also reports the computer name (so I can make sense of the output when the space on multiple machines is