Judi A. Kessler wrote:
From a PhD, RN, and sufferer of osteoporosis: Your "medical" news is
highly questionable.
This is not my news, this is news from a magazine edited by MDs and referring
to studies in peer-reviewed scientific journals. That you have osteoporosis
isn't exactly a good sign
The medico-industrial complex peddled osteoporosis tests/pills by writing
In Parade Magazine, March 19, 2000,
Debbie Reynolds, 67, actress-singer
"I was asked to be a spokesperson for osteoporosis but didn't quite
understand it. Then I took the bone density test and found that I do
have
Arthur Cordell wrote:
On a more brutal note, if an occupying force tries to keep an occupied
village of 100 in line by shooting one villager (and this to a large degree
is successful) do we say that those who get the message are now self
censoring or have effective selection processes taken
One reply I get, though, is that the only
faultless move a bureaucrat can make is to do nothing!!
Gee, and I thought doing nothing was the *main* fault of bureaucrats...
Most of the time they play "bureaucrat Mikado" -- the first one who moves
has lost!
;-)
Chris
Harry Pollard wrote:
You suggest that:
"The still-increasing excesses of
the medical-industrial complex in the West illustrate quite "well" that
public health and profit-making is rather *inversely* related."
In the US, medical and hospital services aren't bad at all. My experience
Tom Walker wrote:
I think we should also be paid when we do the corporation's work for
them--as in self-serve gas stations, wading through voice menus, and the
soon-to-come automated supermarket checkout.
The supermarkets would argue that we already are paid because they pass on
part
Ray E. Harrell replied:
Well, it had to come to this when the road was taken by the West that
relations with an object as a physical extension of the slave was the
meaning of life rather than the growth of consciousness. ... So Mr. Gates
is just the latest version of work for objects sake
Brad McCormick wrote:
I find
it rather remarkable that techies still have any [human]
interest in having mates, and that they make any effort to
find mates.
Well, what about all those DINKs (double income no kids) who
don't want to have their "standard of living" lowered by kids ?
(costs,
REH replied:
Are you serious about this?
Yes, just visit the URL. (You're right that the story sounds like one of
the many M$ jokes, and indeed it gets increasingly difficult to tell the
difference between the (sur)real developments at M$ and the jokes...)
There are a lot of Scientologists
I thought the bet was "Any wacko can start a multi-million biz in the U$."
;-)
Chris
Mike H wrote:
One story of the origins of Scientology goes as follows.
Ron Hubbard, the founder, was having a drink with the boys and shooting the
breeze about religion and Ron said "Anybody can start a
Microsoft cooperates with Scientology
Experts suspect Trojan Horse in Windows 2000
(Summary of an article in the renowned German computer magazine "c't",
full article at http://www.heise.de/ct/english/99/25/058/ )
An integrated operating system component of Microsoft Windows 2000, the
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This is rather frightening.
Arthur Cordell asked:
How about Capitalism with a human face?
That's what the "social-democrat" parties/leaders are there for (at least
so they say!)... Blair, Schroeder, Clinton, unfortunately it's a
big hoax... (Remember the anagram of "PM Tony Blair" ? "I'm Tory Plan B")
Chris
Ed Goertzen quoted Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia (which keyword?):
"...If the mass of the population
governed and they were virtuous, it was called a timocracy. (The Greek
timios means "worthy.") But if the many were not virtuous, it was called a
democracy. The Greeks generally had a
On Sat, 04 Dec 1999, Keith Hudson wrote:
On balance, and over the longer term, free trade is immensely beneficial
but, over the short to medium term, there are understandable worries
Sounds like those miracle-healers who tell patients "you must get worse
before you can get better" when the
Ed Goertzen replied:
A further point, Did you know that Bill Gates "stole" some of the basic
(oops) elements of the operating system that he coulsd not buy through an
interesting process called "reverse engineering"
Yup, but he didn't even invent *this* ! "Reverse Engineering" is the
old
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, Ed Goertzen wrote:
I don't know how many readers participated in the birth of the computer
era, but some may recall the part played by the old Vic 20 and the Commodor
64 with it's 1540 disk drive. Many a current geelk executive got their
start in computers because the
Brad McCormick replied:
Of course you are right that corporations *cause* a lot of
cancers, etc. But just because somebody's shooting at me
from in front doesn't mean somebody else isn't also shooting at
me from behind.
It gets absurd when the guy who's shooting at you from in front with a
John Courtneidge wrote:
Ä Firstly, all knowledge pre-exists our discovery of it, and, so, any
^
individual or group claim upon it, is theft from the commonweal.
(Issac Newton, for example, didn't invent gravity nor the various
Brad McCormick wrote:
No doubt it is true that genetic engineering -- especially
under conditions of late-capitalism, will create
many not just problems, but straightforward
injury and harm. But I fail to see where
the pre- diagnosed/manipulated genes that cause
hemophilia, various
The NYT wrote:
In other words, the 21st century will have its Marx. This next great
challenger of the governing ideological paradigm, this hypothetical
cyber-Marx, is one of our children or grandchildren or
great-grandchildren, and he or she could appear in Shandong Province
or Cairo or
Arthur forwarded:
The Dream Society : How the Coming Shift from Information to Imagination
Will Transform Your Business
by Rolf Jensen (Introduction)
[...]
companies of the future will have to differentiate
themselves from the competition by creating
Brad wrote:
The thought comes to my mind: "Facts" are
little information-warfare bullets. I like the idea --
what better camouflage for *values* than to call them "facts"!
So true. There's even a "news" magazine named "FACTS" -- and guess what,
it's full of propaganda. Reminds me of that
M$ excludes non-customers from voting...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/99-14.html
Posted 11/11/99 2:34pm by Graham Lea
MSNBC blunders over poll position
Polls conducted on the Internet are prone to being invaded by
afficionados who wish their view to prevail. There are, of course,
ajority of citizens in these entities, but alas, their oppressive and
anti-democratic ruling class does not like the Swiss model.
Sincerely,
Christoph Reuss
[Well, the head of WTO is well-versed in misleading PR !!]
From: http://www.msnbc.com/news/323185.asp?cp1=1
WTO report focuses on environment
GENEVA, Oct. 14 - Rebuffing criticism by environmentalists, the
head of the World Trade Organization claimed Thursday that a
new WTO report shows that
So I would say make more and better attachments!
REH, no point in argueing about this: Sending attachments to a list
violates the official Netiquette, is a waste of bandwidth and
clutters up the harddisks of hundreds of users, many of which
can't decode the attachment anyway and/or don't even
Victor Milne replied:
| If you look at the job ads in the newspapers etc. here, there are many more
| jobs looking for people than people looking for jobs. The problem is that
| the qualifications of the vacant jobs are different (usually higher) than
| the qualifications of the
To paraphrase Rosa Luxemburg: Freedom is always the freedom of the muggers.
Couldn't resist...
Chris
Melanie Milanich asked:
Who is still advocating it and where?
Guess what, the German trade union of metal workers (IG Metall) now advocates
the _30_ hour week !
Harry wrote:
There is plenty of work to be done. More important is the
ability to choose to work or not.
More important is the
http://www.rprogress.org/java/footpdist/footpdist.html
Correct URL is http://www.rprogress.org/java/Footpdist/Footpdist.html
(case sensitive!)
Chris
Franklin Wayne Poley asked:
Two questions: (1) In Switzerland do workfare recipients have as much
choice in their workfare situations as other people have in selecting
pre-employment, education or employment?
No, but I think this applies to all countries... Basically, they can
select the
[In reply to Steve's 28-Aug-1999 forward on the Evolution ban ;-)]
Kansas State Board of Education bans teaching of economics:
"There's no proof of an invisible hand."
The Kansas State Board of Education voted to
ban economics from the curriculum of its
public schools citing a
Brad McCormick forwarded
some experts are concerned that the ability to publish
immediately on the Internet will lead to journalistic
carelessness. (Washington Post 09/07/99)
OTOH, the old fixed deadlines can *also* (or even more so?) lead to
journalistic carelessness: I remember a case
TUN MYINT forwarded:
Don't forget about the food revolution that is going on right now!
www.thehungersite.com
Go there, click on a button, and give food to hungry people through the UN
food program. Sponsoring companies are paying for the feast.
The idea is interesting, but since the site
On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:25 +0100, M.Blackmore wrote:
I think where this original comment was going was something along the
lines of the political struggle against global corporatism (etc.) being
essentially a political struggle that has to be engaged with upon American
territory - cultural,
YOU KNOW YOU WORKED DURING THE 90's IF...
You've sat at the same desk for 4 years and worked for
3 different organizations.
Your resume is in a diskette in your pocket.
You get really excited about a 2% pay raise.
You learn about your layoff on the news.
Your supervisor doesn't have the
REH asked:
Just a question. Who pays the salaries for all of these [Linux]
folks doing free things and giving up their ideas for nothing?
The KGB. After all, Linux is a communist plot to destroy the greatest
free enterprise of all times (Micro$oft).
No, wait, that was the Cato Institute's
REH wrote:
An interesting post Chris,
I feel like the average driver who wants his "dictulena" car
to get him to and from work while talking to a race car
mechanic about his problems with General Motors.
I have been talking all the time about the impact of M$ bugs on the
*average* PC user
REH wrote:
Most of the people that I talk to about this says much the same
about Gates and Micro-soft. However, for the record I was not speaking
of Gates only but the Libertarian Party cell that inhabits almost all of
silicone valley. They fund anti community initiatives all over the
REH wrote:
We all notice the immense contradiction between
people greedily taking everything they can, declaring
that everyone is only responsible to themselves while
building an internet of sites where the "butterfly effect"
is more the rule than their hyper individuality.
For the record:
On Mon, 3 Aug "2099", Douglas P. Wilson wrote:
Oddly enough my sent-messages box clearly shows the date as Aug. 2, 2099,
which my computer thinks is correct. I keep setting it back to 1999, but
every few months it suddenly decides it is 2099. I am told that the
person who owns the company
Thomas Lunde wrote in response to Douglas P. Wilson:
Thanks for your detailed comments. On one point we have agreement Douglas,
we have both got our dates set wrong on our computer. I was puzzeled that
your message was at the bottom of my date ordered inbox - really, Friday,
Feb 27, 1920
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Keith Hudson wrote:
To this extent there is a global culture. Nevertheless,
cultural diversity may be growing. Perhaps we are looking in the wrong
places for it. For the active, curious, intelligent 30% of the population
there have never been as many different sorts of
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Doug Schaff wrote:
I do know that when I was working in Saudi
Arabia 16 years ago, the cost of getting a barrel of oil from the ground to
the super-tanker loading platforms at Ros Tanora - where the per barrel
price is paid - was $.25 US. TWENTY-FIVE CENTS - to
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Keith Hudson wrote:
For better or for worse, we recreate society much as it was before whenever
we have passed through technological/economic change. OK, we might well
lose picturesque customs and metaphors (such as 7 or 70 different names of
snow -- and it's important
Concerning the recent topic of war and the economy:
In a NYT article of 28-Mar-1999, Thomas Friedman (Madeleine Albright's
adviser) bluntly admits that "The hidden hand of the market will never work
without a hidden fist. McDonald's cannot flourish without McDonnell Douglas,
the designer of the
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Thomas Lunde wrote:
With regret, I cannot find a posting, I'm sure I saved which stated that the
real cost of a gallon of gasoline was $15, when all the subsidies, tax
breaks and special regulatory exemptions were added into the price of crude
oil.
The International
Brad wrote:
I have a friend who is either a computer genius or close to it.
...
He would often say (in a somewhat pointed tone of voice:):
Time for a work break!
Do you know why those big computers are called "workstation" ?
A trainstation is where the train stops.
A workstation is
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Thomas Lunde wrote:
I know it has been postulated before, but I think it is time, perhaps
evolutionary to make a conscious decision to outlaw war. If that requires a
world police force, so be it.
Both already exists for some time: The U.N. has outlawed war and the U$
On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, Brad McCormick wrote:
I am generally as suspicious of "virtue" as I am of vice.
This is basically a wise attitude, but it shouldn't turn into paranoia. ;-)
The self-styled "simple living"
movement is one of those things of
which I am a priori suspicious. I
certainly
AC forwarded:
In other words, a digital monoculture makes us vulnerable to all
sorts of manipulations that have not been possible before. The more
ubiquitous this monoculture becomes, the more vulnerable we will be.
And the worst part is that this monoculture is authored by the company with
Of course, in the old days, an email propagated "virus" would not be
worthy of comment, as it would be felt that anyone stupid enough to
open an executable from an unknown source shouldn't be operating a
computer, and deserved whatever resulted - sort of technological
darwinism.
Colin Stark forwarded:
Campaign for Digital Democracy
...
The wireless broadband digital internet communications web that would be
created using cellular or related technologies would, in conjunction with
a good, basic, Pentium III-based laptop computer, enable every resident to
How
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:08:54 -0400, Helmut (Ken) Burkhardt wrote:
If we are right, and can't get rational action in time, then the ethnic
cleansing solution will be globalized. Central Europeans, including the
Serbs, have not learned it in the painful lesson of WW2. What are our
chances to
Ed Weick wrote:
And today, more than we realize, much of the technology which we use, and
on which we will have to rely heavily in future, such as the computer, jet
propulsion and nuclear energy, owe much of their development to the creation
of weapons of mass destruction. Where would we be
Official Unemployment Rates
SPAIN 18.6%
FRANCE 11.9%
ITALY 12.3%
GERMANY 9.5%
CANADA 8.3 %
NEW ZEALAND 7.2%
AUSTRALIA 8.1%
OECD AVERAGE 7.0%
BRITAIN 6.3%
UNITED STATES 4.6%
JAPAN 4.3 %
Aren't these numbers a bit misleading, because the way they're calculated
differs among countries
Ed Weick replied:
How beautifully smug! I understand that your bankers made quite a lot of
money from the gold and jewelry that the Nazis took from death-camp victims.
Europe, if you read its history, was a cesspool of wars, repressions and
mass exterminations. And it was Europeans who
REH wrote:
Basically my smug description of Europe was a parody of Ray's smug
description of America (or vice-versa for the negative descriptions).
I have no idea how you could see
anything that I have written as defending the history of
European Americans on this continent past present
REH asked:
Chris you said:
Greetings from a multi-cultural European country
that had _2_ short (defense) wars in the last 500 years
(but I guess this can't be read in your informative NYT),
What country is that? Where does it get it's wealth? Do
they immigrate people to America? If
On Fri, 14 May 1999 02:26:20 -0400, Ray E. Harrell wrote:
One point in all of this is that as an immigrant New Yorker
I am prone to cynicism around the ability of
Europeans to live together, (one war every 25 years for
the past 1000 years). e.g. From the usefulness of the window
shutters in
P.S. Charlton Heston and the N.R.A. have
stated that they intend to go ahead with their
national convention next week in Denver.
This deserves nothing less than a massive,
direct response from all sane yet thoroughly
disgusted Americans. What do you propose
that we do to stop these gun
On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:20:28 -0400, Brad McCormick wrote:
Christoph Reuss wrote:
Worldwide conformity kills Kiwis' GM-free option
Sunday Star Times, NZ
March 21, 1999
THE genetically modified food controversy is not just about what we eat.
There are far larger dimensions t
This institution has failed. For we, the people, have not spoken yet
By Jonathan Freedland
Guardian Wednesday March 17, 1999
...
For the heart of the malaise is the fact that the European Union fails the
two basic tests of any political institution. It is neither effective nor
democratic.
REH forwarded:
Questioning the calendar
By Stephen Jay Gould
...
MYSTERIES OF THE CALENDAR
Why do we base calendars on cycles at all? Why do we recognize a
thousand-year interval with no tie to any natural cycle?
Being "a distinguished professor of zoology", Stephen Jay Gould should know
Thomas Lunde wrote:
I enter this fray with some trepitation, but I have a point to make.
Have no fear, I don't bite. :-) (Not even those who make wrong points, har
har)
One of
the myth's of capitalism is stated by Chris above. The implication is that
there would be no or limited
Eva wrote:
I agree totally with what you say the EU is about.
It is the sign of a next stage of capitalism, as you say,
fighting it, seems to me, is as futile as the Luddites
attacking machines.
I think this comparison isn't correct, because the machines represented
true progress, whereas
Eva Durant wrote:
Since the Scandinavian nations (except Norway) and the Netherlands are now
in the EU, democracy is 'working' less and less in them. All important
decisions are increasingly "shifted" to Brussels and [thus] the
international
big biz. ("The United States of Europe" is
Eva Durant's fellow socialist wrote:
Now to answer the second question of how can there be successful production
without competition? Of course under capitalism there cannot be. The
Meriden co-operative in the Midlands and scores of other co-ops prove it
that you cannot have a socialist
FWP wrote:
Satire aside, it is obvious that fully developed direct electronic
democracy is just a few years away.
And we can expect the computer companies to develop special
software to accommodate it.
And we can expect the computer hackers to develop special software to
fake the votes.
Eva wrote:
And we can expect the computer hackers to develop special software to
fake the votes. Like video telephones, electronic voting is a technical
solution that won't be feasible due to the "human factor".
Yes, you're right, it could only worked if
power and privilages were not
Eva wrote:
No, competition is not necessary in the economic structure.
Competition is an enormous waste of human and material
resources.
Hey, Microsoft software is a good pre-taste of an economy without
competition. Does anybody (except the monopolist) want that ?? ;-)
The USSR et al
Thomas Lunde persisted:
and for that you need some guys to sit in front of terminals for
months at a time, making corrections and hoping that they are not making the
problem worse. I want to know about those guys? Do we have them?
India has them, for instance. India is one of the main
REH wrote:
It seems that micro-waves kill enzymes that are necessary for
digestion and her digestion was the one thing that showed up on
the tests. She also had enjoyed cooking her own meals since
she was a baby, in the micro-wave oven. He explained that food
was her first medicine and
REH wrote:
Christoph Reuss wrote:
Basically, all enzymes are destroyed above 42 degrees Celsius, no matter
whether in conventional ovens or in microwave ovens. But there are 3 other
differences between microwave and conventional cooking:
- Pathogens like salmonellae, E.coli etc. survive
Mike Gurstein forwarded:
Government case vs. Microsoft looks solid Jan. 10, 1999
BY DAN GILLMOR
Mercury News Technology Columnist
...
[Microsoft]'s a culture of hard work and superb talent, without a doubt.
The talent shines through in documents that show penetrating strategic
insight
Tom Walker wrote:
Pete Vincent wrote,
Most importantly, the simulation will be of no value if it is
algorithm-driven. To reflect the true picture, it must be an FSA
(Finite State Automata) model. Algorithms may be deduced from its
results, but not ordained in its construction. The
The London OBSERVER wrote:
Instead of trying to subvert Linux, what Gates should do is release
the NT code and let the collective IQ of the Net fix it for him.
I think the collective IQ of the Net is high enough to STAY AWAY from NT! ;-)
(that's the idea behind Linux, after all...)
Brad McCormick wrote:
I will again repeat what a psychotherapist once told me:
To be a good therapist,
you need to be well paid and well laid.
I guess this gives a new meaning to the word "laypeople".
;-)
Chris
MG quoted the Guardian:
The Greens will not be given any key economic Ministry and some of
their wilder proposals will be vetoed by the dominant Social
Democrats.
Schröder has declared himself a "car man" (literal quote!) -- aka hostage
of the strong German car industry --, and
Ray E. Harrell wrote:
[big snip]
All of this being said, I am not an anti-European or an anti-Scientist.
[big snip]
While it is true that many scientists are "in for the money" and many
technicians wear blinkers, we should keep in mind that not all scientists/
technicians are like that, and
Eva wrote:
In my definition (sorry I'm an engineer/CS..), a (technical or social or
whatever) system works if it behaves in the way and achieves the goal
that its inventor/constructor/maintainer intended it to. Thus, capitalism
works but socialism doesn't.
so if there was/is a conscious
Ed Weick wrote:
All we know is that many are self-serving and that, as my friend
said, power corrupts. What we have learned - or some of us have - is that
we cannot trust our leaders, and that is why we must circumscribe their
behaviour by laws and process.
The problem is:
On Sun, 18 Jan 1998 08:17:13 GMT, Colin Stark wrote:
What's the use of Direct Democracy if the people is brainwashed by
corporate media and misinformed to take the wrong decisions ?
Is it not likely that "the people" are less brainwashed than those who are
doing the brainwashing? 'Cos it is
On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:14:09 GMT, Colin Stark wrote:
I am convinced that we can make progress here at the grass-roots level - and
that DD could make a SIGNIFICANT difference, over time, in the direction of
REAL progress, which to my mind is:
-- stabilization at a sustainable level of
Vincent wrote:
The only way to do damage from email is if you
have a mime-capable mail handler, receive mail with an executable
attachment compatible with your operating system, , and open and then
run it, something you should never do with programs coming in through
the mail, from a source
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