Re: civil service

1998-11-06 Thread Ray E. Harrell
other way around: When the pendulum swings back and a role for government is understood, the civil/public service will be 'reformed.' The civil service and 'government' in general still seems to be the convenient target of blame when anything goes wrong. arthur cordell

Re: civil service

1998-11-06 Thread Ray E. Harrell
Jim Dator wrote: Arthur, et al., I find the argument for dispirited civil servants rings true for Hawaii as well as the points on either side. But I do have a question: since the private sectors employees are downsized with even greater frequency and ease than the public workers, are

Re: civil service-- reply to Cordell et al.

1998-11-06 Thread Ray E. Harrell
I agree REH Saul N. Silverman wrote: I agree with Arthur Cordell. "Reform" occurs by changing the thrust of government's agenda, and this means "speaking truth to power", clarifying publlic perceptions, not letting half truths or wooly theories take the place of realistic socio-political

RE: civil service

1998-10-29 Thread Cordell, Arthur: DPP
-- From: Ian Ritchie To: futurework Subject: RE: civil service Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 10:25PM I agree with Victor and others about the need to "reform" the civil/public service if the ideology is to be rolled back. In New Zealand, and I suspect th

RE: civil service

1998-10-29 Thread Jim Dator
Arthur, et al., I find the argument for dispirited civil servants rings true for Hawaii as well as the points on either side. But I do have a question: since the private sectors employees are downsized with even greater frequency and ease than the public workers, are those in the private sectors

Re: civil service-- reply to Cordell et al.

1998-10-29 Thread Saul N. Silverman
I agree with Arthur Cordell. "Reform" occurs by changing the thrust of government's agenda, and this means "speaking truth to power", clarifying publlic perceptions, not letting half truths or wooly theories take the place of realistic socio-political concepts and effective political action, and,