RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky

2005-08-29 Thread Lawrence deBivort
My question is how do you define their... I am going after the way we define what groups we belong to. This is a vital question, if we are going to arrogate to our group preferential treatment. Cheers, Lawry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky

2005-08-29 Thread Lawrence deBivort
I would agree that generally all groups seem to have blood on their hands, but am surprised that you would cite Vonnegut to dismiss any remorse or compensatory action or obligation. You may not be into guilt, but you and others benefit today from harm that your ancestors did to others, and

RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky

2005-08-29 Thread Cordell, Arthur: ECOM
I have remorse for what was done to others in the name of "progress." I recognize the incomplete genocide of aboriginals just about everywhere. What we do today and tomorrow has meaning. We can't right the wrongs of the past through any amount of money or handwringing. arthur "Happiness

RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky

2005-08-29 Thread Cordell, Arthur: ECOM
How about late departures and arrivals as parts are replaced? Or as air crews are shuttled around the country? How about bumped flights in order to fly full aircraft? How about lost luggage? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of

RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky

2005-08-29 Thread Cordell, Arthur: ECOM
I agree that the victors write history. They may or may not have more blood on their hands. arthur -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:22 PM To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE:

[Futurework] Unions and Temps and Strikes

2005-08-29 Thread Cordell, Arthur: ECOM
Looks like a demonstration of "the reserve army of the unemployed" Using Temps Proves Potent At Northwest 29 August 2005The Wall Street JournalB1 A LITTLE OVER a week into the first major strike at a U.S. airline in seven years, the battle

[Futurework] Re: victors (was Re: Unfriendly workplace in the sky)

2005-08-29 Thread Christoph Reuss
I agree that the victors write history. They may or may not have more blood on their hands. Guess how they became victors... Chris SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword

RE: [Futurework] Re: defining groups (was Re: Unfriendly workplace in thesky)

2005-08-29 Thread Lawrence deBivort
Well, OK, geographic area. So how do you define a geographic area? How large? How bounded? Lawry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:12 PM To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: [Futurework]

RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky

2005-08-29 Thread Lawrence deBivort
I think it should be up to the victims to decide whether any amount of money will help or not, and not left up to those who should be doing the compensation.  The issue, if we want to get into wordage, is not righting the wrongs for in the most limited sense you are right, history can not

RE: [Futurework] Re: defining groups

2005-08-29 Thread Christoph Reuss
Well, OK, geographic area. So how do you define a geographic area? How large? How bounded? A federalist nation-state perhaps? Depending on personal preferences (or format ;-) ), one can emphasize the communal, cantonal or national level for activity (of course the global level too, but here