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To: Lawrence deBivort;
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Unfriendly workplace in the sky . 3rd world culture
Very well said, Lawry. I agree with you,
but I wouldlike to know in which countriesdo you think when you
talk about
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workplace in the sky
How about
late departures and arrivals as parts are replaced? Or as air crews are
shuttled around the country?
How
about bumped flights
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Lawrence deBivort
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:17 PM
To: 'Christoph Reuss'; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
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The EU is admitting 3rd world countries -- which is a fine
thing to do
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As Pres.
Clinton might
say it all depends on what you mean by 'clean up our history'
I have
just finished watching a programme on Afghanistan. The madness was
there before the Russians and before the Americans
Of Christoph Reuss
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:14 PM
To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
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Well, perhaps you are putting your finger on the key question: How (in
your
second paragraph) do you define their societies?
Society -- medium
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As Pres. Clinton might say it
all depends on what you mean by 'clean up
mes
Thurber)
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I
Of Harry
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Lawry,
Well
said!
An airline would not dare to accept
poor maintenance no matter
: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky
I have just finished watching a programme on Afghanistan. The madness
was there before the Russians and before the Americans.
As were the Brits.
As I said in an earlier posting it seems that all groups, in all regions,
have to some degree blood
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I have
remorse for what was done to others in the name of progress.
I recognize the incomplete genocide of aboriginals just about
everywhere. What we do today and tomorrow has meaning. We can't
right the wrongs of the past through
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Thanks, Harry, but
please do not misunderstand me. If I can choose
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Arthur: ECOMSent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:54 PMTo:
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I
don't think anyone has mentioned 3rd world or skin colour but you. A
Arthur Cordell wrote:
the loss of good jobs and taxes paid at home (to me) might add up to a
net loss to the country rather than a net gain.
Perhaps outsourcing as a strategy should be given a closer look. Using
bizz-talkwe should do the math.
Trouble is that the greedies could care
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I don't think anyone has mentioned 3rd
world or skin colour but you. As Dr. Freud might say: Hm.
The issue is outsourcing
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Christoph Reuss; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: [Futurework]
Unfriendly workplace in the sky
How do you know? Is it public
information?
Salvador
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I don't think anyone has mentioned 3rd
world or skin colour but you. As Dr
Harry Pollard wrote:
One must be careful not to equate cheapness with bad
service. Five flight attendants on an empty plane will be
able to give attentive service. Whereas, those same 5 with a
full plane of 250 will be rushed off their feet.
Yet, the reason why the first plane was empty is
Lawrence deBivort wrote:
the fact remains that we are moving toward a unified world, and
we should be equally concerned with the well-being of all, and not just
that of those we look alike, or sound alike.
Globalization is NOT about the well-being of all, quite the contrary.
It's about further
: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:45 PM
To: futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky
Lawry,
Cyprus (the Greek part) is EU, not 3rd world. Although the difference is
increasingly hard to tell, I admit.
Chris
@fes.uwaterloo.ca
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Lawrence deBivort wrote:
the fact remains that we are moving toward a unified world, and
we should be equally concerned with the well-being of all, and not just
that of those we look alike, or sound alike.
Globalization
Sánchez';
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People HAVE done the
math, and that is why outsourcing takes place.
I know from our
previous discussions, Arthur, you put your country before others, but the fact
rem
Well, perhaps you are putting your finger on the key question: How (in your
second paragraph) do you define their societies?
Society -- medium of self-determination -- nation-state.
Chris
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arthur
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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:00 PMTo: 'Lawrence
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As
Pres. Clinton might say
I have just finished watching a programme on Afghanistan. The madness
was there before the Russians and before the Americans.
As were the Brits.
As I said in an earlier posting it seems that all groups, in all regions,
have to some degree blood on their hands.
The degree varies greatly.
]; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
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Ive been following this matter of
outsourcing airline maintenance carefully. It seems that some of the
comments hide a bias against 3rd world maintenance. But is there
really any reason to think that maintenance
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salvador SánchezSent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:16
PMTo: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM;
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workplace in the sky
How do you know
, 2005
11:03 AM
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Thanks, Harry, but please do not
misunderstand me. If I can choose, I would NOT fly in a airlinethat
outsources its maintenance and mechanical work. And if I have to, I
Yep, re-regulation will raise prices
and keep the great unwashed off the planes.
Then they can be used by those who
really deserve them government and corporate all expense paid travelers.
Confronted by mostly well-dressed and obviously important people, the
stewardesses beg pardon
,
2005 2:09 AMTo: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; 'FUTUREWORK
(E-mail)'Subject: RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the
sky
Yep, re-regulation will raise
prices and keep the great unwashed off the
planes.
Then they can be used by those who
really deserve them government
Harry Pollard wrote:
Yep, re-regulation will raise prices and keep the great unwashed off the
planes.
Harry surely prefers cheapo airlines that save on maintenance.
Better dead than red, right Harry?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/08/25/france.air.reut/index.html?section=cnn_latest
How do you know? Is it public
information?
Salvador
From: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM
To: Christoph Reuss ; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:01
PM
My colleague
will not fly on any airline that outsources its maintenance and mechanical
My colleague will not fly on any airline that outsources its maintenance
and mechanical work.
Helios didn't outsource it... they simply fired the mechanics who refused
to sign the safety certificate for the flying rustbucket. After the whole
company was bought by a corporation from the land
I dont know just when it happened,
but some years ago the flight attendants started stating that
they were there to ensure passenger safety, dropping the notion
of service.
But the growing rudeness of the attendants
seem paced by the growing rudeness of the airlines themselves, toward
sday, August 24, 2005
12:10 PMTo: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; 'FUTUREWORK
(E-mail)'Subject: RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the
sky
I dont know just
when it happened, but some years ago the flight attendants started stating
that they were there to ensure passenger safety, dro
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