: Thursday, July 18, 2002 5:59 PM
To: Bruce Leier; 'Ray Evans Harrell'; 'Karen Watters Cole'; 'Keith
Hudson'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Collapsing schools
Bruce,
A New York bank decided to set up a program to hire minority kids.
They
were ill-educated, so the bank set up a program
Watters Cole; Keith Hudson; Bruce Leier
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Subject: Re: Collapsing schools
Ray,
You'll recall my division of knowledge into two - the knowledge of
truths
and the knowledge of things.
Things have to be taught, but it's better if kids are taught how to
teach
: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 7:38 PM
To: Ray Evans Harrell; Karen Watters Cole; Keith Hudson; Bruce Leier
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Collapsing schools
Ray,
You'll recall my division of knowledge into two - the knowledge of
truths
Ray,
You'll recall my division of knowledge into two - the knowledge of truths
and the knowledge of things.
Things have to be taught, but it's better if kids are taught how to teach
themselves. They should learn how to learn. The knowledge of truths is
really an appreciation and
Bruce,
We have something in California (and probably elsewhere) called Charter
Schools. These are allowed somewhat to run their own affairs.
In the San Fernando Valley, a charter school did such a good job they had a
million dollars unused at the end of the year with no drop in results.
Of
Harry Pollard wrote:
[snip]
Competition for students between schools will inevitably lead to better
schools. Parents will not want their kids to go to inadequate schools so,
given the choice, their vouchers - or whatever - will go to the schools
that succeed.
[snip]
Perhaps this is the
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Subject: RE: Collapsing schools
At 10:32 28/06/02 -0500, you wrote:
Keith,
I do not think it impossible to maintain standards in public schools.
Tough, but not impossible. The 1st step would be to stop trying to
be
business-like. The corporate model cannot work in an education
Bruce,
(BC)
I do not think it impossible to maintain standards in public schools.
Tough, but not impossible. The 1st step would be to stop trying to be
business-like. The corporate model cannot work in an education setting.
I hope you recognize that.
(KH)
I don't recognise that. Unless you
To: Bruce Leier
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Collapsing schools
At 10:32 28/06/02 -0500, you wrote:
Keith,
I do not think it impossible to maintain standards in public schools.
Tough, but not impossible. The 1st step would be to stop trying to
be
business-like
.
Karen Watters Cole
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 11:55 AM
To: Bruce Leier
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Collapsing schools
Bruce,
(BC)
I do not think it impossible to maintain standards
of the world. Gotta keep 'em happy at McDonalds.
Bruce Leier
-Original Message-
From: Keith Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 1:55 PM
To: Bruce Leier
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Collapsing schools
Bruce,
(BC)
I do not think it impossible
Brad,
Ahh? Your point??? Is???
Bruce Leier
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Collapsing schools -- the business model works
How does profit for the bosses undermine the goals of education? Don't
students also profit from the process?
Keith
Keith, what a strange statement.How does having less money make more
profit for a student?My father always said that budgets for students
were truly impossible since
Bruce Leier wrote:
Brad,
Ahh? Your point??? Is???
[snip]
I gave this question some thought, and, amazingly enough,
I came up with a succinct answer that I think gets to the
point:
First, let us all agree that formal education in America,
whether at the public high school level or at
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