Re: [Futurework] http://www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/

2003-12-23 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Harry, isn'tpaymentthe return for human exertion? Whether profitable or not? Didn't you say that Profit was "surplus"? Surplus on the return greater than the cost of the production of the product? You're kidding us right? Trying to make us think? Teaching us like Socrates who dared to be

[Futurework] Birthrights

2003-12-24 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Identity Crisis Survival of tribes at stake as strict rules weed out members By Andrew MetzSTAFF CORRESPONDENTDecember 21, 2003Indian Township, Maine - The Nicholases are buried here. So are the Stevens and the Danas. The Soctomahs

Re: [Futurework] needed: warmth

2003-12-26 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Yes Harry it does, They have now largely joined the Republican party.They still idolize Truman because he was a strong President but they would hate his politics. REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ray Evans Harrell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

Re: [Futurework] Global Warming -- the least of our worries

2003-12-29 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
I concur with what you have said Chris. But I believe that there are other issues as well that we have our fingers up our bottoms on. Adjusting to the coming change in the magnetic poles for one. The catistrophic climate changes not to mention the change in the Ozone protection that we will

Re: [Futurework] Global Warming -- the least of our worries

2003-12-29 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Thanks to both Darryl and Chris for this. REH' - Original Message - From: Darryl and Natalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Christoph Reuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Futurework] Global Warming -- the least of our worries Global

Re: [Futurework] Reinventing Culture and Economics

2003-12-30 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
The French are different but I have always been an admirer from a distance. REH - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Reinventing Culture and

Re: [Futurework] Reinventing Culture and Economics

2003-12-30 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Might we juxtapose that with the folks on the internet who talk about life rather than doing it? I love chat and have found it important for me on a daily basis but I have to balance it with real work or nothing gets done and I'm an old man. I know how hard it is for the young who see no exit.

Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Cavema n Trade vs. Modern Trade

2004-01-02 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
too expensive and even sold out houses couldn't support the costs. "Productivity lag", Cheez, take a music course Harry. REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard To: 'Ed Weick' ; 'Ray Evans Harrell' ; 'Robert E. Bowd' ; 'Thomas Lunde' ; [EMAIL

Re: [Futurework] Are they going mad?

2004-01-02 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
that you are in trouble. REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard To: 'Ray Evans Harrell' ; 'Keith Hudson' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:05 PM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Are they going mad? Ray, You say: You

Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Caveman Trade vs. Modern Trade

2004-01-02 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Title: Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Caveman Trade vs. Modern Trade I agree REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard To: 'Thomas Lunde' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:05 PM Subject: RE: Slightly extended

Re: [Futurework] FW Basic Income sites

2004-01-02 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Arthur, let me try it again: Drudgery is the pollution of the drive to work and we struggle to escape it by real work. We all love that unless we have been ruined by the world. REH - Original Message - From: Ray Evans Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harry Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED

[Futurework] Interesting political strategy,

2004-01-03 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Veteran Texas Democrat Switches to Republicans Sat Jan 3,12:58 AM ET Add Politics - Reuters to My Yahoo! By Jim Wolf WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Veteran Democratic Rep. Ralph Hall of

Re: [Futurework] Fw: Beads for Manhattan (shortened)

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
but the envelope (society)is just a matter of good teaching as long as the teachers are listened to or not killed or disrespected by the "free" market. Ray Evans Harrell - Original Message - From: Ed Weick To: Darryl and Natalia ; Ray Evans Harrell ; [EMAIL

Re: [Futurework] FWD: Ralph Nader : The Gore-y details....

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Think of them all as teams Arthur. A chaotic team against the highly organized Republican monolith would get nowhere. What do you want, a planet ruined by pollution and blatent short term self interest. It would make a lousy system anyplace because it uses everything up.Gore could have

Re: [Futurework] FW Basic Income sites

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
That's better Arthur. Another problem with Harry's second assumptionis thatit comes from the bottom up. Do as little as possible. Efficiency determines that one should have a balance of tension to relaxation in the doing of work and that under energy means garbage and that over tension

Re: [Futurework] Selective breeding?

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
I don't agree with Chris on his blatent prejudice on this but I don't think your statement is true either. You paint yourself into an unteneable corner. IMHO REH - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,

Re: [Futurework] Attempted assassination of Tony Blair?

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
I agree with Keith about the liklihood of sabatoge but I would like to know whether Blair flies private aircraft or not. It wouldn't matter who they blew up if Bush was there. He has his own plane. REH - Original Message - From: Karen Watters Cole To: [EMAIL

Re: [Futurework] Selective breeding?

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Tit for tat. Good game! REH - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Selective breeding? Perhaps their only mistake was to trust Swiss banks. Ethics indeed!! arthur

Re: [Futurework] Selective breeding?

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Except in the minds of Christians themselves. I wasn't offering a comparison except in their own minds and if they believe it then choosing survival is the same story.Apparently you never had to sit through all of those sermons as I did.Thousands. That is why my singing in synagogue

Re: [Futurework] Selective breeding?

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Eventually we will know whether they were persecuted anymore than any other group or whether they were just told to sit on their hands around the issue of proselytization.To some that is worse than death itself for it ends eternal life.For others it is soul theft and is considered the

Re: [Futurework] http://www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
No harm Harry? I knew our agreement couldn't long. Spoken from a position of privilege. Been to ballet class lately? How's your toes? REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard To: 'Ed Weick' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [Futurework] Attempted assassination of Tony Blair?

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
No Chris, you could read the history of Wounded Knee and see that this policy by the IDF is copying America's history.At one point an Israeli politician actually wrote a NYTimes OpEd comparing the Palestinians to us. Hitler also gave America credit for concentration camps. America invented

Re: [Futurework] Fw: Beads for Manhattan (shortened)

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
al problem. REH - Original Message - From: Ed Weick To: Keith Hudson Cc: Darryl and Natalia ; Ray Evans Harrell ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [Futurework] Fw: Beads for Manhattan (shortened) Sorry Keit

Re: [Futurework] http://www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Harry, it would take a noble savage to be able to work in your free market without creating civil war or boredom. Networks and connectivity create monopolies and politics. So do cities. REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard To: 'Ray Evans Harrell' ; 'Ed Weick

Re: [Futurework] http://www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
What do you think Ed or Arthur? REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ray Evans Harrell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: RE: [Futurework] http

Re: [Futurework] Look in the mirror

2004-01-04 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Harry, I must say that you remind me of the Karate Kid on the wharf. Quite a demonstration. But socialism is not the government that gives us control by the majority. My own people weren't subdued by socialists and by people who stole our land because they said we were followers of Henry

Re: [Futurework] http://www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/

2004-01-05 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
that greed with as little work as possible. REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ray Evans Harrell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: RE

Re: [Futurework] Selective breeding?

2004-01-05 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Selective breeding? How so? What do you mean? -Original Message- From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: [Futurework] Selective breeding?

2004-01-05 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
-Original Message- From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 5, 2004 11:18 AM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework] Selective breeding? Because there are villains in every culture

Re: [Futurework] Attempted assassination of Tony Blair?

2004-01-05 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Complexity is in the mind of someone who does not know how to achieve a desired end humanely.Golda was a grandmother talking at that time and not a virtuoso politician in other words those are the words of incompetence. REH - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [Futurework] FWD: Ralph Nader : The Gore-y details....

2004-01-05 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
-Original Message- From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 5, 2004 11:20 AM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework] FWD: Ralph Nader : The Gore-y details Well, when the culture

Re: [Futurework] Selective breeding?

2004-01-05 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
the author suggested that the opposite of good is not evil, but rather the opposite of good is good intentions. arthur -Original Message- From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 5, 2004 12:05 PM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

Re: [Futurework] Attempted assassination of Tony Blair?

2004-01-05 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
You ask mean but not cynical questions. REH - Original Message - From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Futurework] Attempted assassination of Tony Blair? [EMAIL

Re: [Futurework] FWD: NAFTA: North American Deal Dismal After aDecade

2004-01-05 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
That cutting is a misquote and you did it again. As for your idealparadise, I'm out of it. REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard To: 'Ray Evans Harrell' ; 'Darryl and Natalia' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:49 PM

Re: [Futurework] Reason and Faith

2004-01-05 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Funny, he doesn't sound anything at all like you. REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ray Evans Harrell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:49

[Futurework] Free Trade

2004-01-05 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
January 6, 2004OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR Second Thoughts on Free TradeBy CHARLES SCHUMER and PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS was brought up, like most Englishmen, to respect free trade not only as an economic doctrine which a rational and instructed person could not doubt but almost as a part

Re: [Futurework] A Basic Income as a form of Economic Governance

2004-01-06 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
ormation has come out of this list in the past and how much of it has been ignored just to come round again. A good search engine on the archive would help raise these posts from the past but you have to be able to search by word as well as date and author. Arthur, Sally, can we do that or arrange

Re: [Futurework] FW Basic Income sites

2004-01-07 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
in Keith in the choir. REH ----- Original Message - From: Harry Pollard To: 'Ray Evans Harrell' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:51 AM Subject: RE: [Futurework] FW Basic Income sites Ray, Y

Re: [Futurework] Where has music gone?

2004-01-07 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Thanks Harry.Music doth calm the savage beast! REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ray Evans Harrell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Keith Hudson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:03 AM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Where has

Re: [Futurework] interesting take on brands and branding

2004-01-07 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
How much better if these computerniks would get their systems down before they end up making extensive graphics and clogging up the original system because they never defrag. Perceptual aesthetics are the basic systems. Emotion and intelligence is RAM.The Professions are the programs and

Re: [Futurework] Precautionary Princiiples Protect Public Health

2004-01-07 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Karen, this is certainly not new to me. The Eagle Picher Mining company constantly told our parents there was no lead threat from their mines and that the children were fine. No tests were necessary and none were done. Like agent Orange in Vietnam, those of us who grew up there now suffer

Re: [Futurework] Precautionary Princiiples Protect Public Health

2004-01-08 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Indians are used for cutting edge capitalist theories and experiments and artists are used to pacify neighborhoods before the wealthy move in to take advantage of an investment opportunity. Old story. REH - Original Message - From: Karen Watters Cole To: [EMAIL

Re: [Futurework] Bush's amnesty program for illegalimmigrantworkers: Texan Trojan Horse? Or decent sensible policy?

2004-01-14 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Harry, you obviously have lived in California too long. REH - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard To: 'Ed Weick' ; 'Ray Evans Harrell' ; 'Brad McCormick, Ed.D.' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:47 PM Subject: RE: [Futurework

Re: [Futurework] Bush's amnesty program for illegalimmigrantworkers: Texan Trojan Horse? Or decent sensible policy?

2004-01-15 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Weick To: Harry Pollard ; 'Ray Evans Harrell' ; 'Brad McCormick, Ed.D.' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [Futurework] Bush's amnesty program for illegalimmigrantworkers: Texan Trojan Horse? Or decent sensible policy? Harry, how

Re: [Futurework] Bush's latest moonshine

2004-01-15 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
I would also add that the 100 chinese composers are taking over the complex musical world and Chinese music will probably be the complex culture of your children as well.Their programs in music are well supported and they are bringing the greatest teachers in the world in to teach their

Re: [Futurework] Possible U.S. cutbacks?

2004-01-15 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
I'm afraid I'm with Chris on this one. REH - Original Message - From: Christoph Reuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Possible U.S. cutbacks? Arthur Cordell wrote: chris, Hence, address and resolve the

Re: [Futurework] House of Cards3

2004-01-15 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
I don't think you should be so tough on Texas Karen. They are protecting us from Grandmothers and thats a big deal in Texas. God only knows what would happen if we didn't have those lawman making deals with serial killers and putting innocent poor people in jail for drugs that they didn't

Re: [Futurework] House of Cards2

2004-01-15 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
It takes a while to load but its worth the wait: http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html REH - Original Message - From: Karen Watters Cole To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: RE: [Futurework] House of Cards2

Re: [Futurework] A colony on Mars is unlikely

2004-01-16 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
What a joke on Bush if not only it was too expensive but there was a big gamma ray explosion and he found out that it wasn't West Texas after all. REH - Original Message - From: Keith Hudson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:25 PM

Re: [Futurework] A colony on Mars is unlikely

2004-01-16 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Send the pro-Jewish Jews to Mars? Now that is what ties the Swiss to the 1938 Germans Chris. Unfortunately you sound like the pre-integration Southerners who had friends who are negras. That was a terrible thing to say and you should own it. REH - Original Message - From:

Re: [Futurework] Dangerous Liasons (AID)

2004-01-17 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
When I took Poli Sci 101 Dr. Conklin said that we should not inhibit newsinformation even during wartime since it was essential for us to make informed decisions. But that was an Oklahoma long gone and was in 1959. College was hard in Oklahoma unlike at Yale where your family meant more.

[Futurework] Friedman

2004-01-17 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
I agree with this article. REH War of Ideas, Part 4By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN et's not mince words. American policy today toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is insane. Can anyone look at what is happening — Palestinians, gripped by a collective madness, committing suicide, and