Re: FVWM: Forcing window decorations

2015-10-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:26:06 +
Tethys wrote:

> How can I force decorations onto windows?

Some of the stupid apps have a setting you can change in the
app itself (I know google-chrome has one), other than that
I don't know.

I've never been able to find a coherent description of
what the heck a "wayland" is, but every time anything
specific I can actually see changes for the sake of
wayland, it always appears to be a horrible regression :-(.



Re: FVWM: Forcing window decorations

2015-10-29 Thread Tethys
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:

> every time anything specific I can actually see changes for the sake of
> wayland, it always appears to be a horrible regression :-(

Pretty much, yes :-(

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Dan Espen  wrote:

> Style * EWMHIgnoreWindowType

Nope, that didn't work. I'll buzz the evince developers, but I'm
pretty much certain they'll ignore me. I don't exist in their brave
new Gnome3 world.

I wish I knew enough about this to work out what was going on. I'd
guessed that evince was setting some kind of hint to tell the window
manager to not decorate it. But EWMHIgnoreWindowType should be enough
to override that, no? There's nothing in my config file to set
NoTitle, yet the evince window has that property set.

FWIW, eog and totem are examples of other applications that suffer
from the same problem.

Tet

-- 
I saw cout being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and stopped
right there. — Steve Gonedes



Re: FVWM: Forcing window decorations

2015-10-29 Thread Dan Espen
Tethys  writes:

> How can I force decorations onto windows? Having upgraded to Fedora
> 22, I now find that many of my windows now appear to be doing client
> side decorations, presumably in anticipation of Wayland. But it's
> horrendous. I want my own window decorations back. How can I achieve
> this?
>
> A good example of this behaviour is evince. I've tried explicitly
> telling it I want a title bar, handles, etc:
>
>Style "Evince" Title, Handles, BorderWidth 5, HandleWidth 5
>
> but that seems to be ignored. Any ideas? See attached screenshot.

Try:

Style * EWMHIgnoreWindowType

Then contact the Evince developers and tell them NO, NO, NO!

Let us know if that works.  My copy of Evince doesn't display that
problem, so my suggestion is purely a guess.

-- 
Dan Espen



Re: FVWM: Forcing window decorations

2015-10-29 Thread Dan Espen
Tethys  writes:

> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Dan Espen  wrote:
>
>> Style * EWMHIgnoreWindowType
>
> Nope, that didn't work. I'll buzz the evince developers, but I'm
> pretty much certain they'll ignore me. I don't exist in their brave
> new Gnome3 world.
>
> I wish I knew enough about this to work out what was going on. I'd
> guessed that evince was setting some kind of hint to tell the window
> manager to not decorate it. But EWMHIgnoreWindowType should be enough
> to override that, no? There's nothing in my config file to set
> NoTitle, yet the evince window has that property set.
>
> FWIW, eog and totem are examples of other applications that suffer
> from the same problem.

My eog is also okay.

Perhaps:

GNOMEIgnoreHints


-- 
Dan Espen