Broken application behaviour (Was: FVWM: Force restore of titles and borders on Gnome applications)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 One another think that annoys me really often and more and more, are applications that steal focus from the window that has the focus. There are a few applications that should be allowed to do so. Namely pinentry, screensavers. I cannot think of more. All others should not even have the right to do it. It is just dangerous. And there are very bad players all around. On the first place is firefox (iceweasel). It not even steals focus all around, it also disregards placing policy all over the place. There is already some fvwm configuration to stop most of the stupid thinks. One other that annoys me often is my jabber application, psi (Don't think others are better). When it starts up it steals the focus often from a window where I currently type in a password logging in to some site. Something completely opposite is some wine applications that refuses to take focus even if you have to type in something. Using lenience style helps here. That comes to the point I would make. What makes application (framework) programmers to be such stupid and completely ignoring users desires? In the current days that seems to be some kind of sport. Gnome is only the leading end with that. I think we should have a list of blame for such applications. Including configurations for fvwm to work around them and give the control back to the user. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen kl...@ethgen.de Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJVeV2fAAoJEKZ8CrGAGfasjZkL+QH4w/9R8nLzq/l2hwug5oqJ vzXRu8UaBHBH9hSjk136Bus/cJ9GWM79LPaX+Cz/WzABs3ypSJ978cNxwunQmNAB 4Kdbijcs88FZUYWvO2nB1MrAGIIEPMI8sJNmCosjSq7kDOl8iANTT33+VpD7LBsn Ta2EDXwFLM7zKKEyAHFtKNmL0abXRf4Oyf9EFqYWYgtUhiqwUI+5l6x2JYH7ydaU +HZsIVQNLnWZQXNm327VupcVlvaAf9q+ZFc+WK38IMuwV7SnaL9NpgBVwKGydgjr 7+2KpI3XvU0nvYUfUVWAFfnISo2Ocaj4vjUKFw28CMZJUUBEs1Y9hyKce3fegoMa HauVICOmc0MTLPEMih0prgf+iV8Rx9tCuYEraYShzN3MyGKkXxKvnGtZQEe0IfFv +hPGCOo/NnXTTkDu6FPQrH3exL8El7b5+X+ouCKOYxe+yYsqd//bK7b4bom0LzSz XDrRsKNYRMsUc4cSxpm4SUOgjjZIjbvs6ceDiZ9mLg== =mi2i -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: FVWM: fvwm startup procedure
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 01:39:34AM +0100, Ethan Raynor wrote: If I give some thought, would a patch be useful to the man page to perhaps add in some more useful information from this tutorial post? Maybe. But remember that you shouldn't try and dump the information from that mailing list message into the man page. I'm not sure how much of it is useful for the man page, but I'll await your patch first of all. -- Thomas Adam -- Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong. But deep in my heart I know I am not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)
Re: FVWM: fvwm startup procedure
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:21 AM, Dan Espen des...@verizon.net wrote: I agree, really nice. Except for where Thomas talks about function setRCDefaults, I think you'll find it all in the man page. The tutorial style is good for explaining how all the parts work together. The man page is meant to be a complete reference. This means you have to find all the pieces. Hi Dan, I can understand that, but I think it's difficult to always be able to piece together the information from the man page. The tutorial was so helpful for things like a file structure layout, and the differences between InitFunction and StartFunction. If I give some thought, would a patch be useful to the man page to perhaps add in some more useful information from this tutorial post? Thanks! Ethan
Re: Broken application behaviour (Was: FVWM: Force restore of titles and borders on Gnome applications)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:06:34AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: One another think that annoys me really often and more and more, are applications that steal focus from the window that has the focus. Hence why I wrote this: http://fvwmforums.org/wiki/Tips/FocusStealing/ -- Thomas Adam -- Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong. But deep in my heart I know I am not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)
