Re: VPC Micro$oft

2003-11-03 Thread Tekno Liber
From: JOHN.E.ABRAHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apple should have produced their own emulator or taken over the rights to REAL PC and developed it to integrate it with any further issues of the Mac's OS. I agree 100% While it is always difficult for an OS developer when to (and not to) tread into the

Re: VPC Micro$oft

2003-11-03 Thread Tekno Liber
From: Nolen Scaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] And for the Apple should lower their prices argument. snip While Apple's prices are quite a bit more expensive than PCs, What most people are getting wrong here is that they are not comparing like for like. I can build three PCs with higher clock speed than I

Re: VPC Micro$oft

2003-11-03 Thread Laurent Daudelin
OK people, that was a very interesting thread but I can't see anymore what it brings to users of G-based laptops. Can we move on, please? You can always continue the discussion privately, if you need to... Thanks! -Laurent, G-Books list nanny. --

Old Mac software support (was: Re: VPC Micro$oftiBook Screen problems

2003-11-03 Thread Tekno Liber
From: Illovox Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some bozo wrote me off this thread snip Then he said that because he was paying for his daughter's wedding, Steve Jobs should give him free software designed for his old machines. snip Ha ha, that brings me back to all the people who complained that the

Re: iTunes Music Store problem

2003-11-03 Thread Scott Crick
On 11/2/03 11:25 PM, John Acuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any idea why I'm getting this message? How does iTunes figure out what country I'm in? I've spent at least an hour searching the Knowledge Base with no answers. Really strange, off-the-wall guess, but: what time zone do

Re: iTunes Music Store problem

2003-11-03 Thread Steve Fuller
On 11/2/03 11:25 PM, John Acuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any idea why I'm getting this message? How does iTunes figure out what country I'm in? I've spent at least an hour searching the Knowledge Base with no answers. The other thing could be something with his ISP. I know there

Apples is NOT 'quite a bit more expensive'

2003-11-03 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sunday, November 2, 2003, at 03:12 PM, Nolen Scaife wrote: And for the Apple should lower their prices argument (sorry, I don't have a snippet for that), I have a few things to say. While Apple's prices are quite a bit more expensive than PCs Actually, they aren't. Configure *similar*

Re: iTunes Music Store problem

2003-11-03 Thread John Acuff
On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 03:44 AM, NIKON'S WORLD wrote: On Sunday, November 2, 2003, at 11:25 PM, John Acuff wrote: Has anybody else (in the US) ran into this? I just installed iTunes 4.1, and when I started iTunes and went to the Music Store, I got a message saying that the iTunes

Re: iTunes Music Store problem

2003-11-03 Thread John Acuff
On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 08:28 AM, Scott Crick wrote: On 11/2/03 11:25 PM, John Acuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any idea why I'm getting this message? How does iTunes figure out what country I'm in? I've spent at least an hour searching the Knowledge Base with no answers.

BLPE 1.8 on a Pismo 400

2003-11-03 Thread Kochkodin
Just a quick note...My son downloaded this thing yesterday and we got this message this am... Any comments as to how it works on a Pismo 400 in Classic? We also got Panther on the Pismo and it rocks!! Regards, Mike K The grammar could be better...what is an air? Thank you for downloading

Re: Apples is NOT 'quite a bit more expensive'

2003-11-03 Thread David M. Ensteness
Very true. Many people will argue that Apple's hardware is so much more expensive and then if you seek out a PC with feature parity [often hard to find] and show them that the margin is very slim, the argument changes to well I don't need all that stuff. So in the end it makes them sound to be

Re: iTunes Music Store problem

2003-11-03 Thread David M. Ensteness
Email em, I have had to email the iTunes Music Store support with questions as have some friends of mine, all of us have received prompt responses that did answer our questions. Email em and see if they are slacking or keeping up the good work. David On Nov 3, 2003, at 8:40 AM, John Acuff

Re: VPC Micro$oft

2003-11-03 Thread pjspop
At 3:12 -0500 on 11/3/03, you (Laurent Daudelin), wrote: OK people, that was a very interesting thread but I can't see anymore what it brings to users of G-based laptops. Can we move on, please? You can always continue the discussion privately, if you need to... Thanks Laurent. -- HTH,

Lombard price?

2003-11-03 Thread Joe
A guy I work with, offered me a lombard 333 Mhz Laaptop for $100-125, is this a good deal? don't these go for like $800? -Joe -- www.kuleinc.com www.kulehosting.com www.kulemac.com www.kulehome.net

Re: Lombard price?

2003-11-03 Thread Hal
Yes, it's a good deal if the laptop fits your needs. They don't go for quite that much anymore, but still command a few hundred $ on eBay. On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 11:23 AM, Joe wrote: A guy I work with, offered me a lombard 333 Mhz Laaptop for $100-125, is this a good deal? don't

Re: Lombard price?

2003-11-03 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 11/3/03 1:23 PM, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A guy I work with, offered me a lombard 333 Mhz Laaptop for $100-125, is this a good deal? don't these go for like $800? It is a very good deal! Let me know if you're going to pass on this offer. I'll give the guy $150 right away (if the

Re: frequent freezes?

2003-11-03 Thread James Rohde
On 11/3/03 6:53 AM, gianfranco apparently wrote: I have a lombard 333mhz running sys 9.2.2 but it is having frequent freezes. Any idea what could be the cause? I have a similar problem. I found out (with DiskLight) it is related in my case to the external JAZ SCSI drive. I does not occour in

Re: 15 Ti-Bk S-Video Out problem

2003-11-03 Thread Frank P. Eigler
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Wiebe Wilbers wrote: Thanks. At least I now have an idea of what I'm looking for. I have a Video Enhancer I bought from JayCar (An electronics shop here in Australia) for $AU37. Probably around $20-25 US. Works well! No brand name on it, it is just a generic unit sold by

Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Laurent Daudelin
It has been brought to my attention that some subscribers of this list have been sending emails back and forth with other subscribers. Although these were off-list and not directly falling under the list's rules, since they were sent to other subscribers, I will not tolerate such behavior from

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Hamlin Krewson
Folks, you need to accept that not everyone will agree with what you're saying and get over it. No matter how hard you try to enforce your point, the other people are free to make their own opinions. No offense, but you need to accept the limitations of managing a list. You've no control or

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 11/3/03 3:16 PM, Hamlin Krewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, you need to accept that not everyone will agree with what you're saying and get over it. No matter how hard you try to enforce your point, the other people are free to make their own opinions. No offense, but you need to

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Mitch Hogg
Laurent, thanks for letting us know that you will not tolerate one subscriber sending a private email to another, even though by your own admission these emails are off-list and not directly falling under the list's rules. I am also grateful that you pointed out how disturbed you were when you

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread David M. Ensteness
Maybe I misread him but I got the impression he was talking about unsolicited e-mail of an offensive nature, not off list e-mail in general, but if you want to overreact, go ahead, most of the discussion on these lists is one person overreacting to another. David On Nov 3, 2003, at 2:23 PM,

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread N. Stella Sloop
As a list owner myself, I can understand your frustration with members complaining to you about offlist email. However, I feel your attempt to control what list members do offlist is going that bit too far in list administration. What, are we going to all turn into tattletales now? This sort

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Mitch Hogg
I don't see offensive anywhere in his original post. Just e-mails, the phrase back and forth, which would indicate the exchange was bilateral and therefore not unsolicited, and the suggestion that sending said emails privately is improper. I'm guessing you're right, of course. What I was making

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Hamlin Krewson
On Nov 3, 2003, at 2:27 PM, David M. Ensteness wrote: Maybe I misread him but I got the impression he was talking about unsolicited e-mail of an offensive nature, not off list e-mail in general, but if you want to overreact, go ahead, most of the discussion on these lists is one person

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread David M. Ensteness
Well, my feeling on it is that if there was more of people trying to hear each other out and less of people nitpicking this would not even be an issue to bother discussing. An example would be how often times someone asks for some help trouble shooting something. The types of responses often

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 11/3/03 3:38 PM, Mitch Hogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see offensive anywhere in his original post. Just e-mails, the phrase back and forth, which would indicate the exchange was bilateral and therefore not unsolicited, and the suggestion that sending said emails privately is

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Hamlin Krewson
So, nobody on this list really care if they start receiving OFFENSIVE emails? Well, I do care, for a starter and I think it's legitimate from other subscribers to care if the offender got their email address from the list. Sure it will bother me, but asking you to take care of the problem is

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Mitch Hogg
Funny, I didn't see nasty or insulting in the original post either; maybe you were using a font that my mail client couldn't handle. All joking aside, I agree with those who've pointed out that a list nanny can't prevent one listmember from corresponding with another. Now, forwarding a private

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread David M. Ensteness
Now that was the most reasonable thing said yet. I second it. David On Nov 3, 2003, at 3:02 PM, Thomas Ethen wrote: I agree with Laurent about using harvested e-mail addresses to send offensive comments to list members, which is similar to spaming! A member complained about receiving off color

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread David M. Ensteness
I disagree with Hamlin too, mailing addresses are public and free information, e-mail addresses are not. David On Nov 3, 2003, at 3:10 PM, Illovox Media wrote: on 11/3/03 12:16 PM, Hamlin Krewson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a freedom that everyone has access to no matter how smart or

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Hamlin Krewson
On Nov 3, 2003, at 3:02 PM, Thomas Ethen wrote: I agree with Laurent about using harvested e-mail addresses to send offensive comments to list members, which is similar to spaming! A member complained about receiving off color responses from other list members, and they got his e-mail address

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Marc
Can you please(please, please) have this discussion off-list? Thank you all Marc -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Hamlin Krewson
Once you put your address on a publicly accessible list, it became public information. Anyone that knows your name can google and find the address you use for this list. I disagree with Hamlin too, mailing addresses are public and free information, e-mail addresses are not. David --

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread COCCORP
In a message dated 11/3/2003 4:08:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with Laurent about using harvested e-mail addresses to send offensive comments to list members, which is similar to spaming! Hmmm... in RESPONDING to x privately to a comment x made in an open

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Mitch Hogg
That was a joke, right? On 11/3/03 4:18 PM, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you please(please, please) have this discussion off-list? Thank you all Marc -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Jacob Saariaho
You know what? Spam or no-Spam, off-list or on. This List has gotten very tiresome this past week I don't need my email clogged up with 40 part discussions on email propriety or geek debates on Apple and Microsoft politics. I thought this was a better alternative to slogging through message

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread vicki
Off-list is where off-topic emails are supposed to migrate. Now you're trying tell us that is no longer acceptable? Regardless of how offensive a conversation might get, sometimes things need saying. Plus, how do you decide what's offensive? Do you say that it's foul language, angry

Re: Lombard price?

2003-11-03 Thread Michelle Klein-Hass
On Monday 03 November 2003 7:23 pm, Joe wrote: A guy I work with, offered me a lombard 333 Mhz Laaptop for $100-125, is this a good deal? don't these go for like $800? Unless it's stolen or there's something very wrong with it, that is a very, very good deal. I feel lucky that I got my

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Alan Miller
vicki wrote: Hi all Does this really have to go on for much longer because I am really tired of it now. To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks all and good-bye!!! -- Alan Miller Underwater Photographer°°.°.°.°. http://home.earthlink.net/~uwphoto/ 9600/233

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Steve
On 3-Nov-03, at 12:45 PM, Hamlin Krewson wrote: And at least two of us thing Laurent is overreacting. Just because I send an off-list off-topic email to one list member does not mean I'm spamming. If it turns into an off-list flame-war between myself and the listmember, then that's my problem

Re: iTunes Music Store problem

2003-11-03 Thread Tom Burke
On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 12:53 pm, G-Books wrote: Has anybody else (in the US) ran into this? I just installed iTunes 4.1, and when I started iTunes and went to the Music Store, I got a message saying that the iTunes Music Store is not yet available in your country. Huh!? Since when is it

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Bill Briggs
At 2:40 PM -0800 03/11/03, Steve wrote: This list is a good, open forum. I've been on several of Dan's lists (and others) for many years now, and frankly, this one is one of the most enjoyable. I particularly liked the recipe for black-eyed peas that showed a while back - great example of an

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Andrew Kershaw
Can you please(please, please) have this discussion off-list? Thank you all Marc That's the funniest thing I think I've ever read on this list! Let me email you privately to relay my kudos! :-P All joking aside, I'd just like to point out that the PowerBooks list seems to run extremely

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread pjspop
At 15:20 -0500 on 11/3/03, you (Laurent Daudelin), wrote: I'm sorry, but I don't read the rules like you do. Using the email address that are freely available to other list members to send improper/nasty emails is the same than harvesting email addresses to spam people. People are joining

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Steve
On 3-Nov-03, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Kershaw wrote: In the last month or so on G-Books, I've seen more OT discussion and flame wars than I've seen on PowerBooks in four years I don't really want to continue this thread, but I also don't want to see G-books get maligned. I've been on this list for

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Steve
On 3-Nov-03, at 3:35 PM, Bill Briggs wrote: This is a fantastic recipe. The result is a meal in pan. If you like cornbread this will wake up your tastebuds like no other you've ever eaten. (If you're not partial to hot food, just decrease the number of jalapeños or leave them out altogether.) If

Re: Lombard price?

2003-11-03 Thread Clark Martin
At 2:10 PM +0100 11/3/03, Michelle Klein-Hass wrote: On Monday 03 November 2003 7:23 pm, Joe wrote: A guy I work with, offered me a lombard 333 Mhz Laaptop for $100-125, is this a good deal? don't these go for like $800? Unless it's stolen or there's something very wrong with it, that is a

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Steve Moody
On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 03:38 PM, Mitch Hogg wrote: I don't see offensive anywhere in his original post. Just e-mails, the phrase back and forth, which would indicate the exchange was bilateral and therefore not unsolicited, and the suggestion that sending said emails privately is

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Steve Moody
On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 03:47 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Ok, come guys, you're all grown-up, aren't you? You know what I'm talking about when I mention nasty, improper or insulting, don't you So, nobody on this list really care if they start receiving OFFENSIVE emails? Well, I do

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Steve Moody
On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 08:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just a subscriber here, not the nanny, but I totally agree with Laurent. As nanny, he sets the tone and enforces the rules. You are correct that Laurent enforces the rules. Anyone who breaks the list rules in a posting

Re: Improper off-list emails

2003-11-03 Thread Tom Ethen
on 11/4/03 0:07, Steve Moody at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I grow up, I can start planning my second childhood. Hurry up! Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site

Re: off-list tempest in a teapot

2003-11-03 Thread peter webster
So, happily making a filter (Eudora 6--but as I recall, it works in earlier versions, too) that screens for improper off-list emails in the subject line and deletes them, I say good-by to the topic. Jeez--this was as bad as a debate between fundamentalist protestants and atheists. -- G-Books