You're right, it brings back to memory all that A+ stuff I learned...
they don't teach you a whole lot on how Macs work though, that was
disappointing because its real interesting. Know any good links for how
the hardware in a Mac works? What kind of controller does the
motherboard use to
This is true...
Mike
On Thursday, May 13, 2004, at 09:02 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
on 13/05/04 22:37, Nils at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You guys are getting closer..
Well, for my part, the reason I suggested to get 66MHz chip was that
the
density was likely to be smaller with those older chips.
Side note on the 83/66mhz comparisons.
I was just on the Wegener Media site looking for that info on the 1400 series
LCD (mentioned in another thread). Well, it seems they've got a G3/400mhz
card for the Wallstreet, and there is a benchmark chart showing a pretty decent
speed difference
They downgraded the bus speed because of heat issues. They, and
probably a lot of users, felt like the early 83Mhz units were
generating too much heat.
I could understand that. Mine gets a litle toasty after sitting
with it on the lap for an hour or so. It's not burning to the touch
but I
Sorry, I must have missed the Ram answer: does the bus
speed difference (66 versus 83 MHz) affect the type of
Ram you may use?
I checked Datamem.com; they only list the WS Series I
powerbooks.
Thx
George
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The National Enquirer reports at 12:32 AM -0700 5/15/04, Nils wrote:
They downgraded the bus speed because of heat issues. They, and
probably a lot of users, felt like the early 83Mhz units were
generating too much heat.
I could understand that. Mine gets a litle toasty after sitting
with
On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 12:47:09AM -0700 or thereabouts, George Mogiljansky wrote:
Sorry, I must have missed the Ram answer: does the bus
speed difference (66 versus 83 MHz) affect the type of
Ram you may use?
mm. Yes. It depends on how much searching you want to do. Since most places
Nils, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Me too. I've got a WS w/ the 83 bus. It just feels really zippy for a 250Mhz
machine. The WS II and Lombard both went 66MHz.
Not to break your perception, but I have had both and the 66/266 is IMHO
definitely snappier than the 83/250. At least under OS X.
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Not to break your perception, but I have had both and the 66/266 is IMHO
definitely snappier than the 83/250. At least under OS X.
I didn't mean to imply that my machine was faster than a system w/
a 66MHz bus. Just my opinion that it's snappy. I just moved up from my
1400 :)
-nils
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Good point. Great information for those of us who are searching around
for memory for our laptops.
-nils
On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 11:02:14PM -0400 or thereabouts, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
on 13/05/04 22:37, Nils at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You guys are getting closer..
Well, for my part,
A very intriguing answer, Nils. Thanks.
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Laurent, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Well, for my part, the reason I suggested to get 66MHz chip was that the
density was likely to be smaller with those older chips.
Yes, but if you're offered a pc-133, you don't want to be told to get a
pc-66 when one could find out if it could be working.
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I recall the OP saying they were probably going to be buying used RAM.
Normally I think that's a fine idea but in special cases (as with 256MB
sodimms for WS) I'd suggest spending a wee bit more and buying from a
specialist who can guarantee the RAM _will_work_ in a WS. OWC
(macsales.com)
On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 10:59:11AM -0400 or thereabouts, Dan K wrote:
As many others have explained, the issue revolves around chip density.
For specific details on what will work, read Apple's Wallstreet devnote:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintos
In a message dated 5/14/2004 12:18:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The pdf also states that the machine is to use SDRAM memory with a rating of
100MHz or greater. This would make sense as a recommendation because the
250 and 292MHz systems run on a 83MHz system bus. Where
I always wondered about that myself...
Why did Apple downgrade the system bus on the WS II line? I can understand
them wanting to make a uniform motherboard, but why as 66mhz? Unless it was a
consideration for PC66 RAM?
Craig W.
Atlanta GA
Me too. I've got a WS w/ the 83 bus. It just
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Just make sure it's compatible with the Wallstreet. The Wllst is PC-66 RAM,
which was all going to be correct for the Wallstreet. Any reseller who
doesn't
guarantee that isn't worth buying from.
But I'm buying second hand from private users for my
On Thursday, May 13, 2004, at 08:12 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
on 13/05/04 07:52, Mikael Byström at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Just make sure it's compatible with the Wallstreet. The Wllst is
PC-66 RAM,
which was all going to be correct for the
Its a density problem. The WS will read 128MB PC133 as long as the
density matches, you need 6 layer memory for it to work right. I
think... thats how it works with older PC's...
Mike
On Thursday, May 13, 2004, at 08:25 AM, John Slavin wrote:
On Thursday, May 13, 2004, at 08:12 AM, Laurent
You guys are getting closer..
There are 2 issues here. One at a time.
First, a WallStreet II runs a 66MHz System Bus. That means that you can run
PC66, PC100 or PC133 memory. The rating shows the speed that the memory
has been certified to run at.
A piece of PC66 memory run on a 100MHz system
Mike, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The WS will read 128MB PC133 as long as the
density matches, you need 6 layer memory for it to work right.
6 layer? How do Memory Pros and makers discern between these and others?
Noone knows this?
My top 256 is a PC-133. It works great.
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on 13/05/04 22:37, Nils at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You guys are getting closer..
Well, for my part, the reason I suggested to get 66MHz chip was that the
density was likely to be smaller with those older chips.
-Laurent.
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Laurent, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The only thing to watch for (and why it is
suggested that you buy memory specifically rated for the Wallstreet) is the
chip density. If you buy a chip with the newer design, the memory controller
in the Wallstreet won't be able to use the full memory, so you end
Just make sure it's compatible with the Wallstreet. The Wllst is PC-66 RAM,
which was all going to be correct for the Wallstreet. Any reseller who doesn't
guarantee that isn't worth buying from.
Tom
In a message dated 5/12/04 6:05:45 AM, you wrote:
Laurent, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The only
I have a Wallstreet II (300MHz G3 14.1inch) and I want to bump the RAM
to 512MB (currently 256MB). Does anyone know what speed the SO-DIMMS
ned to be. IE: PC100, 133, 66, etc. Also, what should the latency, etc
be? Thanks,
Mike @ AAHS
Tech
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On 11/05/04 12:48, Mike Kauspedas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a Wallstreet II (300MHz G3 14.1inch) and I want to bump the RAM
to 512MB (currently 256MB). Does anyone know what speed the SO-DIMMS
ned to be. IE: PC100, 133, 66, etc. Also, what should the latency, etc
be? Thanks,
PC66 is
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