Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-20 Thread James Scholes
in. -- From: Ryan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. These password okay: [EMAIL PROTECTED](78)@⌡φ├98○Ä28bÖ↑1«¡1

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Kuvvosh
Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hi Andy, I don't want to say too much about how it was done, but I will just say the cracker managed to gain illegal access to the Linux root account, and then proceeded to rm -rf * everything in site including the backups

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread josh
what's orca setup? or do you mean gnome and that? - Original Message - From: Kuvvosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. You said Linux? Oh my, 5 minute

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Trouble
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:36 PM To: Andy Smith; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hi Andy, I don't want to say too much about how it was done, but I will just say the cracker managed to gain illegal access

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Dean Masters
@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Was it only usagames.us that was affected? At 12:36 PM 19/02/2008, you wrote: Hi Andy, I don't want to say too much about how it was done, but I will just say the cracker managed

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kuvvosh, I am sorry but I have to disagree with you on this point. In my years of experience with operating systems FreeBSD and Linux have been far more secure than MS Windows every time. Yes, Linux has been cracked before, but usually it falls under misconfigured security or down right poor

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Stephen, No. The attack and break in was against Shane's hosting company, Shaned.net hosting services, and the hacker destroyed everything on the server. USA Games just happened to be in the hackers way as well as several other companies Shane hosts for. So there is quite a few other lists,

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dean, Shane is doing his best to get in touch with everyone about their accounts. If you haven't resolved your issues by the time of this email write me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will send you his tech support phone number so you can get your issues sorted out. Dean Masters wrote: NO. I

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Kuvvosh
the the other OS. That's all I'm going to say on this matter. Kuvvosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trouble Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. If he

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi Kuvvosh, Either those Macs and Linux were never patched and the windows has powerful firewalls, it seems unlikely. Macs and Linux are generally much more secure, particularly because black-hats won't waste there time on an OS that doesn't get the majority of the market. Experts at Sophos Labs

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi, Ah you mean web server security. I don't know much about it, and I agree with the gov/military statement.. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Trouble
, February 19, 2008 7:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. If he did windows in 2 hours. Then I can tell you he never got into a linix system, because they are not as open as windows. Why do you think the government still uses unix and linix for all

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Ryan Smith
And yes it is open-source... On Feb 19, 2008 4:25 PM, Ryan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Ah you mean web server security. I don't know much about it, and I agree with the gov/military statement.. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Kuvvosh
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of josh Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. hi thomas, maybe people should use passwords like this one just as an example. d3gf9800Ed20di99ha408jza202njdlk614 Josh

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread josh
: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hi Kuvvosh, I am sorry but I have to disagree with you on this point. In my years of experience with operating systems FreeBSD and Linux have been far more secure than MS Windows every time. Yes, Linux has been cracked before, but usually it falls under

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Trouble
PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hi Kuvvosh, I am sorry but I have to disagree with you on this point. In my years of experience with operating systems FreeBSD and Linux have

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Trouble
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hi Kuvvosh, I am sorry but I have to disagree with you on this point. In my years of experience with operating systems FreeBSD and Linux have been far more secure than MS Windows every time. Yes, Linux has been cracked before

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Ryan Smith
: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hi Kuvvosh, I am sorry but I have to disagree with you on this point. In my years of experience with operating systems FreeBSD and Linux have been far more secure than MS Windows every

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread shaun everiss
. d3gf9800Ed20di99ha408jza202njdlk614 Josh - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hi Kuvvosh, I am sorry but I have to disagree

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread shaun everiss
people should use passwords like this one just as an example. d3gf9800Ed20di99ha408jza202njdlk614 Josh - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread shaun everiss
Josh- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hi Kuvvosh,I am sorry but I have to disagree with you

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi, I'd make a password gen, in fact I have one already done in autoit, I'll tweak it and put it up. Those chars can be made by pressing alt and a combo of numbers. Just keep typing in random numbers and you can get a very strong password. I'll convert it to vb, the pas gen, unless Damien would

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-19 Thread shaun everiss
Well if you have one to code then thats good. There is no official x-sight project list. Its not likely that it would matter if there was more than 1 gen out there. And its about time there was one. At 02:35 p.m. 20/02/2008, you wrote: Hi, I'd make a password gen, in fact I have one already done

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-18 Thread James Scholes
put it up on public ftp, that way it will stay up there. -- From: Andy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:09 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Um. Ok

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-18 Thread Willem
PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. you mean you've found out who did it and where they live? wow. that was quick detective work. Was it a list member? At 11:28 AM 18/02/2008, you

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Andy, I don't want to say too much about how it was done, but I will just say the cracker managed to gain illegal access to the Linux root account, and then proceeded to rm -rf * everything in site including the backups. We have reinstalled most of the basic services, and I have spoken to

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Liam, Unfortunately, all of my addresses are asigned to my UUSA Games domains and servers. However, they are all now fixed. If you want to email me privately you can write me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the message should go through. Though, I am planning on adding box trapper to my email

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-18 Thread Stephen
Was it only usagames.us that was affected? At 12:36 PM 19/02/2008, you wrote: Hi Andy, I don't want to say too much about how it was done, but I will just say the cracker managed to gain illegal access to the Linux root account, and then proceeded to rm -rf * everything in site including the

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-18 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi, Oh so thats how did it, so he had to into the Linux system first then deleted the files with rm - rf? I believe I remember Sun did some kind of update? It doesn't let it get removed or something, but I am glad its back. That could go to legal action, its against the US Computer Fraud and Abuse

[Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello everyone, We are sending this email out to inform everyone that this morning a hacker broke into our web host's root account and deleted all of the files on the server, and our web host is unable to restore from server backups do to this attack. As a result USA Games currently has lost

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi, What Apache server were you running? Up to date I hope! Also, I'm kind of sick of these hackings... first rsg, what do these people look at every vulnerability possible! How this morning? I was on it around noon I believe.. At least just the data was gone, and they didn't replace index.phpwith

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Stephen
Damn it! what's the matter with people! Just when things are getting back on track someone has to go and wreck things again! At 10:56 AM 18/02/2008, you wrote: Hello everyone, We are sending this email out to inform everyone that this morning a hacker broke into our web host's root account and

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Andy Smith
Um. Ok, then. Should I put azteks setup on sendspace? Lol call me weird but I back up everything. Now only if I backed up the php on the site then you wouldn't have to restore anything. Don't think that'd be possible but. Anyway if its ok i'll put it all back up, the azteks setup I mean,

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Andy Smith
Well, looks like hackers don't care. How did the idiot get in in the first place? On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:05:36 -0500, Ryan Smith wrote: Hi, What Apache server were you running? Up to date I hope! Also, I'm kind of sick of these hackings... first rsg, what do these people look at every

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Shane Davidson
the software to restore the server. Thanks all a very very very very angry shane davidson - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Damn

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Andy Smith
. Thanks all a very very very very angry shane davidson - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Damn it! what's the matter with people

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread shaun everiss
I have all the usagames, mystery of astecks, and well stfc. I could mirror all that on public ftp,ofcause i have montisumer to but we are not supposed to share that so I won't. However I can keep a perminant mirror of things whatever people want or devs want, programs, etc on my public ftp

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Stephen
you mean you've found out who did it and where they live? wow. that was quick detective work. Was it a list member? At 11:28 AM 18/02/2008, you wrote: I know this. I am thom's hosting provider, my company that is, and we are more than livid about the situation. a coleague had to physically

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread josh
was it some blind person? - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. you mean you've found out who did it and where they live? wow

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Liam Erven
anyone know if thomas has a secondary email account I can reach him at? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hello everyone

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Liam Erven
I'll hold my tongue on this issue, but I have my own thoughts on why this happened. - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hi, What Apache server were you running? Up to date I hope! Also, I'm kind of sick of these hackings... first rsg, what do these people look at every vulnerability possible! How this morning? I was on it around noon I believe.. At least just

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread jason
: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down. Hi, What Apache server were you running? Up to date I hope! Also, I'm kind of sick of these hackings... first rsg, what do these people look at every vulnerability possible! How this morning? I was on it around noon I believe.. At least just the data

Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

2008-02-17 Thread Thomas Ward
HI everyone, I have been following this thread through the list archives, and I thought I would reply to all of your questions and comments in one pop. First, I would like to mention that it was not my laptop that was hacked. It was my web host, the company that hosts my web site, email, and