Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-16 Thread Munawar Bijani
-- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:18 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi Shaun, I'm not an expert on copyright law, but I know

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-15 Thread Damien Sadler
...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. By the way, is there a possible way to win on the Impossible Level of AceFire? Best Regards, Hayden -Original

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-15 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Shaun, I was totally kidding about if you play my games as Jim you will win. Same with if you play as the Browns. Like I said before that, I never ever build cheats into my games. They just would not be fun for me to play if I could cheat to do so. TGIF and BFN Jim We can't solve

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-15 Thread Hayden Presley
. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. By the way, is there a possible way to win on the Impossible Level

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Liam Erven
: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. If I were a game developer, I would not advertise the fact that I would be including a cheat preventative in my games. I'd go ahead and let them have at it, hoping that they spent money on the cheat program only to find that it would

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Darren Harris
program a bit as a hobby. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Liam Erven Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi Liam, Yeah, and what fun would it be to use

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Darren Harris
Subject: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi list. I was wondering, does anyone have any experience of using a program called art money for cheating in games? for example you could use it to give you unlimited health. basically it allows you to search the programs

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Harmony, Well in theory if you disassemble a program or game, you could then change it and then recompile it. Then sell it as your's. I have never tried it, but I think that most will decompile to machine language code. BFN Jim Some assembly required. j...@kitchensinc.net

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Liam, I don't know how to do the on line score board thing, but I do spend allot of time coding so that hopefully it doesn't matter how fast or slow a person's computer is, the game will play the same for everyone. I never even knew about these cheat programs. I don't think so, but I

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas, Yes, the only cheat that I have ever put in all of my games is that if you play with the name Jim, you will win. grin But seriously, like you, I just would not enjoy playing or enjoy beating a game if I used cheats. BFN Jim If you get cheated by the Better Business Bureau,

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Liam Erven
: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi Thomas, Yes, the only cheat that I have ever put in all of my games is that if you play with the name Jim, you will win. grin But seriously, like you, I just would not enjoy playing or enjoy beating a game if I used cheats. BFN

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread shaun everiss
To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. how do sighted people find cheats in the program, ie get the codes? I know these are just not given by the companies that make them so cheater programs aside, with the excepting of decompiling

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread shaun everiss
To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. I totally agree. Are programs like this something that would totally go against the license agreement that gamers agree to when they buy most of the games for blind gamers. Isn't it illegal

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread shaun everiss
neither would I not all at once and only sparingly. Did not know about that cheat, its no big advantage but it will be fun since I have played and won most of your stuff. At 12:09 a.m. 15/01/2010, you wrote: Hi Thomas, Yes, the only cheat that I have ever put in all of my games is that if you

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Darren Harris
Of shaun everiss Sent: 14 January 2010 02:29 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. how do sighted people find cheats in the program, ie get the codes? I know these are just not given by the companies that make them so cheater programs

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Darren Harris
everiss Sent: 14 January 2010 17:05 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. well doom1 2 at least quake1, duke nukem 1 2 3 3d and maybe others all use the same keyboard layout. So they couldn't get us over that nore the weapons

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Philip, I'd like to know how someone can design his/her games to protect from these cheating programs. I not only hate cheater programs I totally despise them with a passion. I'd love to make my games secure from these sorts of cheater programs and the people who use them. On Wed,

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Damien Sadler
, January 14, 2010 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi Philip, I'd like to know how someone can design his/her games to protect from these cheating programs. I not only hate cheater programs I totally despise them with a passion. I'd love to make my

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Charles Rivard
...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: 14 January 2010 17:05 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. well doom1 2 at least quake1, duke nukem 1 2 3 3d and maybe others all use the same keyboard layout. So they couldn't get us over

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Darren Harris
: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. If you want a free game, I'll bet the maker of the game cares. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 14

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Not only are copyrights an issue but the cost of litigation is usually too expensive to take someone's butt to court for piracy. That's the main reason why I agreed to discontinue Montezuma's Revenge. By the time I litigated the copyright issues with Utopia I'd be thousands of dollars in the

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I'm not an expert on copyright law, but I know enough there is a clear line between originality and copyright infringement. By and large you can't copyright anything that is common and is not unique such as weapons like swords, guns, missile launchers, etc. Even a game as long as it

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Darren Harris
: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 14 January 2010 18:59 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi, Not only are copyrights an issue but the cost of litigation is usually too

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Bryan Peterson
@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi Shaun, I'm not an expert on copyright law, but I know enough there is a clear line between originality and copyright infringement. By and large you can't copyright

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Darren Harris
To: thomasward1...@gmail.com; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. So in theory you could copyright Angela Carter if I'm reading that right. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Well, that's a stretch. Usually the license agreement is talking about specifically altering the executable by disassembling it, modifying it, and then reassembling the hacked/cracked version. What these programs do is it looks for the specific blocks of memory where the game's

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Liam, Yes, definitely, if you play as the Browns in my football game, you will always win. grin Now in the real world, that is a different story. grin BFN Jim Go! Indians! Go! Browns! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Hayden Presley
: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi Charles, Well, that's a stretch. Usually the license agreement is talking about specifically altering the executable by disassembling it, modifying it, and then reassembling the hacked/cracked version. What these programs do

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-14 Thread Hayden Presley
; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi, I wouldn't mind knowing either. I was at my mate's house when he used a cheater program on Acefire to win the impossible difficulty. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas

[Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread alex wallis
Hi list. I was wondering, does anyone have any experience of using a program called art money for cheating in games? for example you could use it to give you unlimited health. basically it allows you to search the programs memory for particular values you are interested in and then change

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Liam Erven
: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi list. I was wondering, does anyone have any experience of using a program called art money for cheating in games? for example you could use it to give you unlimited health. basically it allows you to search the programs memory

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Liam, Yeah, and what fun would it be to use total cheats to play a game? I mean I had to look up some cheats to finish some text adventure games, but using a program to change points etc in a game while you're playing it? Heck I have never even built any cheats into any of my games. I

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Philip Bennefall
. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. good. I'm glad it doesn't work

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread peter Mahach
called art money for game cheating. Hi Liam, Yeah, and what fun would it be to use total cheats to play a game? I mean I had to look up some cheats to finish some text adventure games, but using a program to change points etc in a game while you're playing it? Heck I have never even built

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Liam Erven
as a hobby. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Liam Erven Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi Liam, Yeah, and what fun would it be to use total cheats

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Brice Mellen
Download cheat engine, it's better. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of alex wallis Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:19 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread peter Mahach
could say you're god like with that thing. - Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. I as well

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Brice Mellen
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Liam Erven Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. I as well will be following in Philip's footsteps to protect against this. If nothing else

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Philip Bennefall
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Sorry to say but no matter what you guys do people will always find a way to cheat, it can't be helped. But I don't think we should get on peoples cases who want to cheat, maybe they do it out of enjoyment of being immortal

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Brice Mellen
Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:45 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hello there, In prinsiple I agree with you that nothing is unhackable, but in this case there is actually a fairly bulletproof method of preventing

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Liam Erven
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:45 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hello there, In prinsiple I agree with you that nothing is unhackable

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Harmony Neil
] On Behalf Of Brice Mellen Sent: 13 January 2010 8:12 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Yeah, I can see where the programmer comes from on that standpoint, especially after the hard work put in to the game. Lol don't worry I

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim, Yeah, I don't understand the mindset of these cheaters either. I never add cheats to my games either, because I want the game to be challenging, replayable, and fun. When I put in a cheat in a game such as Shades of Doom I don't get any particular excitement or fun out of having endless

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Damien Sadler
: Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi Jim, Yeah, I don't understand the mindset of these cheaters either. I never add cheats to my games either, because I want the game to be challenging, replayable, and fun. When I put

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Hayden Presley
: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hi Jim, Yeah, I don't understand the mindset of these cheaters either. I never add cheats to my games either, because I want the game to be challenging, replayable

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Hayden Presley
Erven Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. my main problem with online score systems. I have mentioend this before I'm sure. I've wanted to run contests and things using the score boards

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Yohandy
] On Behalf Of Liam Erven Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. my main problem with online score systems. I have mentioend this before I'm sure. I've wanted to run contests and things using

Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating.

2010-01-13 Thread Charles Rivard
- From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] using a program called art money for game cheating. Hello there, In prinsiple I agree with you that nothing is unhackable, but in this case