Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 10:19 +0530, Abhijit Kshirsagar wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 22:20, Dan Roganti ragoo...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't say wipeout, from looking at the current state of documentation, there's been a huge amount of work done there. I would suggest just making some

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-10 Thread Abhijit Kshirsagar
Hi all... The problem is solved with the latest gnetlist (1.7.1). Thanks so much! I will be documenting the library of bond graph elements (symbols and definitions). Just wanted to know if anyone uses bond graphs for simulation? Regards, ~Abhijit On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 18:08, Peter Clifton

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-10 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 19:49 +0530, Abhijit Kshirsagar wrote: Hi all... The problem is solved with the latest gnetlist (1.7.1). Thanks so much! I will be documenting the library of bond graph elements (symbols and definitions). Just wanted to know if anyone uses bond graphs for simulation?

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 13:35 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: A lot of documentation can be bad. Consider the toys from the big company with the damaged fruit: A reason for the success of the toys is that documentations seems to be not needed. A lot of documentation can make people think that

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread John Hudak
Very good point! and if I may add: ALL contained in ONE place, sufficiently reviewed to make it 100% correct with the current version of the tool(s) it is intended to be use with (and stated in the document itself). From my experience, ONE person is accepted as the book boss and

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Jared Casper
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de wrote: Consider the toys from the big company with the damaged fruit: A reason for the success of the toys is that documentations seems to be not needed. I agree with the idea, but the thing is, the Apple software that doesn't

gEDA-user: EZBOARD -- use gEDA without knowing it

2011-09-10 Thread John Griessen
On 09/10/2011 10:35 AM, Jared Casper wrote: A reason for the success of the toys is that documentations seems to be not needed. I agree with the idea, but the thing is, the Apple software that doesn't need documentation doesn't do a whole lot. Yes, and the hobby CAD users want it to be

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Ross Bernheim
There is a problem that seems to occur often with open source software. Since it is created by programmers to scratch their particular itch, they are more concerned with the programming and getting it working to solve their problem. Other than bug fixes that affect their use of the program,

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Felix Maier
A rating function for the documentations would be handy. I think this feedback is very important and you get an overview what is good or bad. Guess, the implemantation isn't tricky. best regards Felix ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-10 Thread John Doty
On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:19 AM, Abhijit Kshirsagar wrote: The problem is solved with the latest gnetlist (1.7.1). Thanks so much! I will be documenting the library of bond graph elements (symbols and definitions). Just wanted to know if anyone uses bond graphs for simulation? No, but I might

Re: gEDA-user: EZBOARD -- use gEDA without knowing it

2011-09-10 Thread Cullen Newsom
I agree with the idea, but the thing is, the Apple software that doesn't need documentation doesn't do a whole lot. Ahem, Hyper Card, people are still mourning for it. -CN ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

gEDA-user: PCB segfaults when the Route style button is clicked

2011-09-10 Thread Ivan Stankovic
Hello, I'm using PCB from git master (9dde48253c..) and it segfaults when the Route Styles button is clicked. Here's how to reproduce: 1. use PCB to make an empty pcb file 2. start PCB again and load the empty file with File - Load layout 3. choose Power route style, then click on the Route

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 10.09.2011 um 13:35 schrieb Stefan Salewski: A lot of documentation can be bad. Ha! Now that's exactly the right answer to somebody offering writing documentation. Consider the toys from the big company with the damaged fruit: A reason for the success of the toys is that

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Jared Casper
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: Using a keyboard to do anything but writing text is a thing of the past, to start with. I couldn't disagree more. I only want to use the mouse for things that absolutely require a mouse (drawing things mostly). If I have

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread John Griessen
On 09/10/2011 06:20 PM, Jared Casper wrote: gEDA is as far away from Fritzing as Word is from NotePad. Jared But they both have many of the same low level primitive commands and actions. I think you could base two apps on the same code and many of the users would never know, since some are

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Jared Casper
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 6:09 PM, John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: But they both have many of the same low level primitive commands and actions. I think you could base two apps on the same code and many of the users would never know, since some are so little into craft and so into

Re: gEDA-user: PCB segfaults when the Route style button is clicked

2011-09-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Ivan Stankovic wrote: I'm using PCB from git master (9dde48253c..) and it segfaults when the Route Styles button is clicked. Here's how to reproduce: 1. use PCB to make an empty pcb file 2. start PCB again and load the empty file with File - Load layout 3. choose Power route style, then

Re: gEDA-user: Used LPKF ProtoMat S62 PCB Router for sale

2011-09-10 Thread DROA
hi! im truly interest in this article... do you still have it? thanks for all the info. My secondary e-mail is: droa.or...@gmail.com. Bob Paddock wrote: In the past (see list archives) I'd mentioned that I'd worked with a LPKF ProtoMat S62 circuit board router. The owner of that

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Geoff Swan
On 11/09/2011 9:13 AM, Markus Hitter [1]m...@jump-ing.de wrote: But how close is gEDA here? To be honest, I think gEDA couldn't be farther away. It can't even agree on an equivalent GUI design for both major tools, gschem and pcb. Instead of doing something about that, lots of

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:20:27PM -0700, Jared Casper wrote: On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: Using a keyboard to do anything but writing text is a thing of the past, to start with. I couldn't disagree more. I only want to use the mouse for things

Re: gEDA-user: PCB segfaults when the Route style button is clicked

2011-09-10 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 04:53:08AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Ivan Stankovic wrote: I'm using PCB from git master (9dde48253c..) and it segfaults when the Route Styles button is clicked. Here's how to reproduce: 1. use PCB to make an empty pcb file 2. start PCB again and load the

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Abhijit Kshirsagar
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 04:42, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: Am 10.09.2011 um 13:35 schrieb Stefan Salewski: A lot of documentation can be bad. Ha! Now that's exactly the right answer to somebody offering writing documentation. :) I agree that too much documentation /can/ be bad -

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread gedau
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:03:14AM +0530, Abhijit Kshirsagar wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 04:42, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: Am 10.09.2011 um 13:35 schrieb Stefan Salewski: A lot of documentation can be bad. Ha! Now that's exactly the right answer to somebody offering