Re: gEDA-user: Zoom bug on Windows

2011-09-16 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:23:50 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: DJ Delorie wrote: Try this snapshot: ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/geda-windows/snapshots/pcb-20110916.exe I tried in a virtual box with winXP. Now, I better understand Bobs problem. On the first call

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-09-16 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:25:19 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: See the attached screenshots how this theme renders mouse-over of route styles. Sigh. When will I ever learn to attach right with the original post... Here come the announced

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:12:26 +0100 BAXENDALE P.R. peter.baxend...@durham.ac.uk wrote: I've built a cygwin version of geda/gaf 1.6.2 and pcb and combined it, rather crudely, with the necessary cygwin bits to make it easy to install on a Windows PC. It's really intended for my students to use,

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:42:12 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: I've built a cygwin version of geda/gaf 1.6.2 and pcb and combined it, rather crudely, with the necessary cygwin bits to make it easy to install on a Windows PC. Don't forget that you need to distribute the

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:44:21 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: That's great! How coincidental that I just opened up my mail client to post to the list about how I could not find a Windows build of gEDA! I want to recommend gEDA to colleagues and online contacts, but unless

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:43:46 -0600 John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote: On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Colin D Bennett wrote: How much Unix tools does gEDA really need to run? Just the Scheme interpreter? Optional tools need a variety of support, e.g. Perl for refdes_renum, Python

Re: gEDA-user: reasons for wikibook (was: plugins)

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:24:57 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Geoff Swan wrote: +1 I think it unlikely that a gEDA wiki would be targeted. It is very likely to be targeted by semi clever spam bots. I administrate a couple of wikis. Plain, anonymous write accesss

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:36:25 +0100 BAXENDALE P.R. peter.baxend...@durham.ac.uk wrote: Don't forget that you need to distribute the geda and cygwin sources with your binaries. Yes, it's a pain, but yes, you have to do it. The gEDA sources are in the zip, but I forgot about the cygwin

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:16:23 +0200 Rubén Gómez Antolí l...@mucharuina.com wrote: Is something how Kde us Gnome? Because after of years of desktop wars, both proyects colaborate in base (freedesktop) and expand his own style. There are something to learn in our own free software history?

gEDA-user: pcb “Optimize routed tracks” problems

2011-09-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
I've been trying to use the pcb track optimization tools on a board which I've manually routed. I tried essentially all the options on the Connects | Optimize routed tracks menu. However, I've run into a couple of problems: 1. My board has an LQFP48 footprint rotated 45 degrees. Whenever I

Re: gEDA-user: pcb “Optimize routed tracks” problems

2011-09-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:04:35 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 02:38:20PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: 1. My board has an LQFP48 footprint rotated 45 degrees. The ability to rotate parts happened after the optimizer work. Any math majors want to take

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:50:33 +0200 Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de wrote: For me, I never loved the many tool changes, and I was never able to remember all the key combinations. er is edit rotate, ve is view extend. For the later I am not really sure -- have not used gschem for a year.

Re: gEDA-user: time for a pcb release cycle?

2011-09-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:54:27 +0100 Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 10:42 +0200, Kovacs Levente wrote: Each time I save my layout, a message appears: layout changed. Do you want to load it? or something like that. Brr well of couse it changed! I saved

Re: gEDA-user: Strange user interface behavior with gschem-1.6.2.20110115

2011-09-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:12:03 +0200 Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 11:27:08AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: I have recently started to like the gschem Magnetic Net mode, now that I learned to use Ctrl-click to put explicit intermediate points in the lines

Re: gEDA-user: Strange user interface behavior with gschem-1.6.2.20110115

2011-09-06 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:59:39 +0200 Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de wrote: On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 09:13:06PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: IMHO, this works against user expectation. After all, the whole point of the circle is to signal the user where the connection would be done.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk: Toggle buttons for route styles?

2011-09-02 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 10:55:10 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: Can we use toggle buttons instead of radio buttons for the route style selector? It would look like so: http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/toggle.png This gives more clickable area and a cleaner look, I think. While

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk: Toggle buttons for route styles?

2011-09-02 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 09:46:02 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 03:02:51AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Andrew Poelstra wrote: Can we use toggle buttons instead of radio buttons for the route style selector? It would look like so:

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:18:20 -0500 John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: Does the category low end bother you? Well, I think low-end is not very specific in reality. Does gEDA really belong in the category of EAGLE, or is it much more powerful? Maybe the “low-end” attitude toward gEDA is

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-31 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:22:28 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 06:51:10PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Some glitches: I don't see any visual feedback which item the mouse cursor currently refers to. Gnome user expectation seems to be, that the item

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-08-30 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:36:21 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: I don't think it makes sense for a popup to be tear-off-able, since popups are supposed to be context sensitive, and if you tear it off you lose context. I.e. if you right-click on an element, you should get a menu

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-30 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:03:05 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Colin D Bennett wrote: Are you running an old version of GTK? My distro is debian/testing, aka squeeze. The libgtk2 packages are mostly version 2.24.4-3 . Is this old? No, not old. I have the same 2.24.4

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-29 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:30:02 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Abhijit Kshirsagar wrote: Actually, with respect to the rubber-band mode (both in PCB and gschem, as a matter of fact) I have no clue whether the mode is 'on' or 'off'. I can only test the behaviour by doing

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-08-29 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:38:27 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: Right now in pcb if you shift-right-click on the main viewport, you get a popup menu with a few submenus. There are no tearoffs. Do you want tearoffs on the submenus of this popup? What about on the popup itself? Am I

Re: gEDA-user: gschem vs. PCB diode pin numbering

2011-08-29 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:34:04 +0200 Kovacs Levente leventel...@gmail.com wrote: When you use a light symbol, a script finds a pinmap, and constructs a heavy symbol. Say for example if you have a SOT23 diode with A1A2K pinout you'll get a symbol with name like 'diode-SOT23-A1A2K.sym' this

Re: gEDA-user: essential library -- plaese comment.

2011-08-29 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 03:23:09 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: This of course implies heavy symbols. In fact, I made them super heavy by adding an attribute with a comma separated list of footprints. So dear light library lovers: This is explicitly not for you ;-) First,

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-25 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Cory Papenfuss papenf...@juneau.me.vt.edu wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. I've played with it a bit and come up with an example for a 200mil radial capacitor below: Element[ C0 97000 208000 8000 -28000 0 100 ] ( Pin[0 0 0

Re: gEDA-user: gschem vs. PCB diode pin numbering - anode/cathode definition

2011-08-25 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:28:46 -0400 Ethan Swint eswint.r...@verizon.net wrote: On 08/24/2011 01:15 PM, Colin D Bennett wrote: I understand that it is electrical convention to name diode terminal anode and cathode, but I reject it as a confusing and ambiguous naming convention. Yes, it's

Re: gEDA-user: gschem vs. PCB diode pin numbering

2011-08-25 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 22:41:28 +0200 Levente Kovacs leventel...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:03:35 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Why not? Pinnumbers are numbers in the first place. Former versions of netlisters/PCB got confused by non-digital

Re: gEDA-user: howto pin size

2011-08-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:14:23 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 05:14:43AM -0500, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I have a component with a pin that info shows copper width = 72 I want to set copper width to 70 so I go to File-Preferneces-Increments and set Size

Re: gEDA-user: gschem vs. PCB diode pin numbering - anode/cathode definition

2011-08-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:21:17 -0400 Ethan Swint eswint.r...@verizon.net wrote: On 08/23/2011 08:47 PM, Matthew Lewis wrote: I was double checking a pcb layout today and I discovered a rather nasty gotcha. It seems that gschem and PCB don't agree on which end of a diode should be pin 1.

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:53:23 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Cory Papenfuss wrote: I thought about that... making different footprints that don't have copper on the component side of the pins. Since that would require making new footprints for pretty much everything,

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:42:26 +0100 Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: For converting legacy designs, an import from gerber might be more generally useful to our user base, and doesn't require decyphering unknown file formats. Admittedly this looses footprint information, but perhaps that

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:36:33 +1000 Stephen Ecob silicon.on.inspirat...@gmail.com wrote: A few hours in the future, Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 09:52:19AM +1000, Stephen Ecob wrote: A few hours in the future, Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: * Hide all

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:58:27 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: if you use pcb with the Lesstif GUI, why? The lesstif GUI was designed to use very little screen space, leaving the maximum amount of space for the board. I just tried out the lesstif pcb GUI. I was surprised to see

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 02:41:53 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 02:22:25AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Andrew Poelstra wrote: I have implemented the italicized/separated suggestion. You can see it here:

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:15:54 -0400 (EDT) Cory Papenfuss papenf...@juneau.me.vt.edu wrote: Hey, all. I've used PCB on an off for 10 years and recently have been getting familiar again with the rest of gEDA which has become a great set of tools! Anyway, I've been using a board

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:29:50 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: That would play nice on a dual headed setup. One of my dream projects is to do a GUI for pcb that uses two or more monitors, with one monitor heavy on the toolbars and showing an overview thumber window, and the other

Re: gEDA-user: pcb segmentation fault

2011-08-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 07:33:36 -0500 (CDT) kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I am using version 1.99z that I compiled a few days ago If I press control-r while the mouse is over a component name I get a segmentation fault I have seen this recently too. I can't reproduce it exactly right now, but I

Re: gEDA-user: Preventing elements from appearing in BOM

2011-08-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:09:03 -0400 Ethan Swint eswint.r...@verizon.net wrote: On 08/20/2011 11:50 AM, Matthew Lewis wrote: Is there a way to prevent a device from appearing in the BOM and in the XYRS file? The problem I'm trying to solve is that I have a pin defined in my schematic for

Re: gEDA-user: Has anyone in this group seriously used KiCAD?

2011-08-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:07:45 +0800 Atommann atomm...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/20 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com: On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:55:31 -0400 John Hudak jjhu...@gmail.com wrote: Pros/cons?  and please, no philosphy about integrated vs independent tools...I am interested

gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:51:03 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Which GUI ? That makes me wonder: who uses the Lesstif HID GUI instead of the GTK HID GUI? I've only used the GTK GUI because I don't know why one might choose Lesstif. Any Motif/Lesstif applications I've used in the past

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-21 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 08:09:37 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 01:46:24PM -0700, Steven Michalske wrote: On Aug 19, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:41:58PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: [...] Though, I am still

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:05:30 -0400 John Hudak jjhu...@gmail.com wrote: So, this causes me to ask the question: Why hasen't gattrib been removed from:http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gaf as well as any other instances? While the concept is good, the implementation is worthless, and

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 23:12:57 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Colin D Bennett wrote: I really dislike the double-click idea. I often need to quickly enable/disable visibility of multiple layers, Nothing beats accel-keys for fast actions. In this case [ctrl-N

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 22:22:11 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:34:04PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Andrew Poelstra wrote: I like KMK's click/double-click idea if possible. Very possible. But you would still be unable to toggle visibility

Re: gEDA-user: Commandline option --menu-file

2011-08-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:44:12 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: d) While menues can be ripped off and used as a toolbox, they don't remember their state beyond the end of the session. This essentially prevents persistent user configuration of the GUI. Actually, the GTK

Re: gEDA-user: Has anyone in this group seriously used KiCAD?

2011-08-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:55:31 -0400 John Hudak jjhu...@gmail.com wrote: Pros/cons? and please, no philosphy about integrated vs independent tools...I am interested in aspects such as what things work? what doesn't? user experiences such as strengths and weakness (again actual/functional and

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL rebased to git HEAD (with nanometers)

2011-08-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 15:08:57 -0400 Dave McGuire mcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: On 08/19/2011 12:18 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: My PCB+GL branches are now rebased against git HEAD, with all the excellent work from Andrew Poelstra on the internal unit conversion to nanometers. Please test and

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 07:48:31 +0200 Bert Timmerman bert.timmer...@xs4all.nl wrote: I think such a thing would look like: http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/selector.png What do people think of this? IMHO, the former proposal with visibilty buttons without rectangles is the improvement

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:25:06 -0700 Jared Casper jaredcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: 2. Whenever you hide a layer, the selector would jump to the previously-selected layer. I haven't tried it yet, but I think that from

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:57:33 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: I like the color swatch and how it shows a small rectangle of the layer color when the layer is hidden; if this swatch were the show/hide toggle

Re: gEDA-user: Nanometer conversion pushed to git head

2011-08-17 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:11:13 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: EVERY time I draw a new footprint, I spend half the time figuring out where the “imaginary” line endpoint should lie. I just use the rectangle tool. Oh! I forgot you can use the rectangle tool to make pads too. That

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:48:48 +0200 Felix Ruoff fe...@posaunenmission.de wrote: I personally like the new style you created. Its very nice! I think the reason for adding this small rectangles is, that its easier to see, if the button is pressed. Good point. I do like the full color fill you

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-17 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:01:30 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 07:31:24AM +1000, Stephen Ecob wrote: Good point.  I do like the full color fill you show, Andrew.  However, I think we need a better way of indicating which layers are visible. Perhaps a

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem and footprints

2011-08-16 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:35:46 -0500 (CDT) kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I am sure this has been done to death but I have to ask I am a beginner and the way I am using gschem and pcb is quite awkward I open my schematic in gschem and open pcb Then when I add a component in gschem I switch to pcb

Re: gEDA-user: Nanometer conversion pushed to git head

2011-08-16 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:53:21 +0100 Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: I have some ideas about how pad-stacks could be made more general though, so a square pad (like many others) is just a special case of a polygon - which can, of course.. be rotated arbitrarily, either at the pad level, or

Re: gEDA-user: Line Thickness in Imported DXF Files; Rotating by Arbitrary Angle; UTF-8

2011-08-15 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 01:48:42 -0400 Gus Fantanas fanta...@innocent.com wrote: Third, can pcb handle UTF-8 characters? On the silkscreen I want the Ω character to appear (for Ohms, as in 50Ω). The text entry window accepts the Ω just fine, but then the text on the silkscreen displays /two/

Re: gEDA-user: personal component library frustration-HELP/suggestions please?

2011-08-15 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 14:23:15 -0400 John Hudak jjhu...@gmail.com wrote: I've created two directories in my home directory to store symbol files that I create, and another directory to store footprints I create: /home/jjh/project/component_symbols /home/jjh/project/component_footprints How

Re: gEDA-user: Bug in 'FreeRotateBuffer()'? (WAS: Re: Line Thickness in Imported DXF Files; Rotating by Arbitrary Angle; UTF-8)

2011-08-15 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:24:34 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:29:59AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: Because of this bug (it is completely a bug from the user's point of view), as you suggested I always make my nominally-square pads slightly non-square

Re: gEDA-user: personal component library frustration-HELP/suggestions please?

2011-08-15 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:02:07 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: /-- YOUR-PROJECT.g2p --- schematics YOUR-PROJECT.sch output-name YOUR-PROJECT elements-dir FULL-PATH-TO-THE-DIR-BELOW-THE_DIRS-THAT-CONTAIN-YOUR-FOOTPRINTS

Re: gEDA-user: personal component library frustration-HELP/suggestions please?

2011-08-15 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:24:24 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Colin D Bennett wrote: No big deal, just copy the symbols from the component library into your new design project's Symbols directory as you need them. This small effort is, for me, completely worth

Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC

2011-08-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:34:38 +0200 Levente Kovacs leventel...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:36:25 + (UTC) Sparky scop...@gmail.com wrote: For my outline layer I did the following to add the attribute: Edit-Edit attribute of-CurrentLayer Left box: PCB::skip-drc

Re: gEDA-user: Tag-Connect TC2030-MCP(NL) footprint, expert review

2011-08-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:04:54 -0700 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: I've created gEDA/pcb footprints for the Tag-Connect TC2030-MCP / TC2030-MCP-NL connectors. The TC2030 family of cables have a special connector using spring-pin (aka pogo-pin) contacts and do not require any BOM

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 23:31:39 +0200 (CEST) k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) wrote: Andrew Poelstra: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:30:34PM +0200, Karl Hammar wrote: ... -#define LARGE_VALUE(LONG_MAX / 2 - 1) /* maximum extent of board and elements */ +#define LARGE_VALUE

Re: gEDA-user: Version compatibility between gschem and PCB

2011-08-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:03:31 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:40:51AM -0400, John Hudak wrote: I came across an board layout file that requires a newer version of PCB than I have installed. My version of PCB is 20091103. If I upgrade to the most

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:34:58 -0700 yamazakir2 yamazak...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, magnetic mode is an instant disable for me everytime I install gschem Agreed... I like the idea of magnetic mode, especially when drawing nets when zoomed out pretty far--it can be hard to click exactly on the

Re: gEDA-user: Version compatibility between gschem and PCB

2011-08-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:40:51 -0400 John Hudak jjhu...@gmail.com wrote: I came across an board layout file that requires a newer version of PCB than I have installed. My version of PCB is 20091103. If I upgrade to the most recent version of PCB, will it be able to interoperate with gschem

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:50:31 +0200 Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz k.kosciuszkiew...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/11 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com: Another thing that might make working with nets easier is it took fewer clicks to move vertices.  Similar to how it is often irritating to have

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:04:47 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: Please test this and let me know what needs to be done. Thanks! OK, I have noticed one bug. If I draw some lines on a copper layer, two strange things occur: (1) When I click on a line, it becomes highlighted and is

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:04:47 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: Please test this and let me know what needs to be done. Thanks! Nice work! So far it all looks great. I haven't stressed it with any fancy layouts yet, but all I can say so far is WOW and thanks for your effort. I'll let

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:16:38 +0200 (CEST) k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) wrote: Andrew Poelstra: I have a pcb branch available here for testing: git clone git://wpsoftware.net/pcb-andrew.git git checkout coord6 ... Making all in doc make[2]: Entering directory

Re: gEDA-user: Option to not display polygons

2011-08-09 Thread Colin D Bennett
list software probably makes it easy to lose a few messages in the noise. Regards, Colin Begin forwarded message: From: John Doty j...@noqsi.com Date: August 2, 2011 12:56:22 PM MST To: Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com Cc: gEDA user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org, Kai-Martin

Re: gEDA-user: Option to not display polygons

2011-08-09 Thread Colin D Bennett
in the gEDA community - Not happy with moderation of geda-user mailing list On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 09:13:54 -0700 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 08:33:50 -0700 John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote: You'll note that this message never appeared on the list. I never

Re: gEDA-user: Constraint-based PCB footprint design

2011-08-08 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 08 Aug 2011 03:47:25 +0100 Rob Spanton rspan...@zepler.net wrote: I've recently been playing around with designing footprints by describing a set of constraints that position features relative to each other. This is rather than specifying the absolute co-ordinates of every feature.

Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC

2011-08-05 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:32:58 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: The correct syntax is: Attribute(PCB::skip-drc 1) ... By the way, what is the reason for the funny attribute name with two colons in the middle? The source treats it just like a

Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC

2011-08-04 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:48:09 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Colin D Bennett wrote: A feature I have heard previously requested is to be able to mark certain layers as “no-DRC”. For instance, to allow special trace elements such as antennas that the DRC thinks

Re: gEDA-user: .pdf to .pcb / exact coordinates

2011-08-04 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:20:50 +0200 (CEST) SZABO Tamas sza2k...@freemail.hu wrote: Is the any easier and accurate way to place connectors to the right position? Furthermore, a part of my converted pcb always outside of the pcb editing area. Can I center it somehow? The commands I use: -

Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA

2011-08-04 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 21:29:39 +0300 Павел Таранов taranov.pa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm currently using Ubuntu 11.04 with classic Gnome (you can switch on GDM prompt). But Ubuntu team promice to remove this feature on next realeses... I promise if that happens, I will to switch to Debian... and

Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC

2011-08-03 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:24:21 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Hi. My current project calls for big currents and and fine pitch SMD components, too. So I opted for four layers with 35 µm copper on outer and 105 µm copper on inner layers. Now, my fab requests 250 µm

Re: gEDA-user: Wireless comms options

2011-08-02 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:57:28 -0500 John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: On 08/02/11 03:44, Chris Smith wrote: I'm developing an application that needs to send a stream of data from one device to another, but I don't have much experience with wireless Not so sure about the data

Re: gEDA-user: Option to not display polygons

2011-08-01 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 00:44:23 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Colin D Bennett wrote: I wish it was possible to toggle visibility of individual layers within a group. Your wish is my command! :-) See the attached patch. With this patch you can use the control key

Re: gEDA-user: Problem With SOT23-5? Invisible Guardband Around Landpattern; Arcs in Silkscreen

2011-08-01 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:32:46 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: DJ Delorie wrote: You can't. Footprints are strictly made from lines and rectangles. No arcs, no text, no weird polygons. Wrong. The silkscreen is made from lines and arcs, no rectangles or polygons.

Re: gEDA-user: Option to not display polygons

2011-07-29 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:58:12 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Hi. Just finished my latest, a bit larger layout (The one I bragged about lately). After I added polygons to pour the remaining board estate with copper, PCB slowed down significantly. Frames per second as

Re: gEDA-user: zero-clearance pads for milled/high-power boards

2011-07-29 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:39:04 -0600 jb...@frii.com wrote: People reading this list already know this, so this is mostly a post for people who are searching the web trying to figure out how to make milled or very high power/heatsinking boards in which having thermal clearance around pads

Re: gEDA-user: Migration form eagle to gEDA

2011-07-27 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:28:21 +0200 Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: Am 26.07.2011 um 07:33 schrieb bsali...@gmail.com: 1. Schematic board are decoupled so any changes to schematic need to be re-synced to the board. I haven't figured out the way yet. Look up and use xgsch2pcb.

Re: gEDA-user: Migration form eagle to gEDA

2011-07-26 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:33:11 -0700 bsali...@gmail.com bsali...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the detailed steps Colin. Sorry I was not clear I was looking to migrate as a user. Although I have a license for eagle but sometime get limited by the number of schematic sheets. So far I haven't

Re: gEDA-user: Warp pointer nonesense

2011-07-26 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:44:29 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: On a large, crammed full board, where the feature is needed the most, the cross hair is almost invisible in when zoomed out. Highlighted SMD pads does not stand out on their own.

Re: gEDA-user: Migration form eagle to gEDA

2011-07-25 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:17:39 -0700 bsali...@gmail.com bsali...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that his question might have been asked before but is there any howto or tutorial to migrate from Eagle to gEDA? I tried Google searches but no meaningful information has been found. Do you mean migration

Re: gEDA-user: Design Nark

2011-07-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:01:13 +0100 Andy Fierman andyfier...@signality.co.uk wrote: Is it just me being a Grumpy Old Man or does anyone else take issue with RS over their advertising for their Design Spark EDA tool? Everyone should demand truth in advertising! ...Grumpy Old Men and Irreverent

Re: gEDA-user: Design Nark

2011-07-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:38:25 -0700 Steven Michalske smichal...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, but to remove them we need to make the script that replaces current functionality. It would be nice to see the hierarchy expander open up the pins to gschem file for a large connector, on say an auto

Re: gEDA-user: Design Nark

2011-07-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:56:18 -0300 Adrian Pardini pardo.b...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/07/2011, Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: And not m4 script, please! Ideally various scripting languages could be used (Python, Perl, Scheme, Lua, etc.) as various users prefer. Personally, I

Re: gEDA-user: pcb grid improvements... status of patch?

2011-07-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:55:02 +0200 Gabriel Paubert paub...@iram.es wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 08:30:43PM -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: These too will be changed as we move away from a strict mm/mil configuration. I'm not sure what to do about them. Right now I have a giant table

Re: gEDA-user: pcb grid improvements... status of patch?

2011-07-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:30:43 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 02:09:13AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: There is already some information in user preference that should really be configurabel on a per project base. Skipping through the file:

Re: gEDA-user: pcb grid improvements... status of patch?

2011-07-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:05:56 -0700 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:55:02 +0200 Gabriel Paubert paub...@iram.es wrote: Great. As an astronomer, I really need to be able to define my PCB in astronomical units and parsecs :-) You'll have to wait for 64-bit

Re: gEDA-user: pcb GL can't render stretched arcs

2011-07-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:02:28 -0600 Mark Rages markra...@gmail.com wrote: Stretched arcs are a misfeature. Can they be deprecated? Otherwise, they are just another object that cannot be rotated at arbitrary angles. There is no inherent reason elliptical arcs cannot be rotated arbitrarily.

Re: gEDA-user: Gtk grid changes on mm/mil toggle

2011-07-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:46:11 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: Hey all, Right now in the Gtk HID when you change grid units between mm/mil, it will try to translate your grid setting into the new units by finding something sufficiently close in the menu. ... To the user, this

gEDA-user: pcb grid improvements... status of patch?

2011-07-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:52:38 -0700 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: While I really would like the advanced user-defined grids as in the recent patch, at least fixing this will help. Often I want to measure something in mils as I am laying out components on a metric grid. So I click

Re: gEDA-user: gschem command line printing

2011-07-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:05:22 +0200 Michael Theurl michael.the...@smog.at wrote: Hello Chris, That's sounds great. Maybe i can help you, i wrote a script to export pdfs and handbooks for geda/pcb projects. I Attach you the script. I use Fedora Core 14 with the standart geda-gaf rpms.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb grid improvements... status of patch?

2011-07-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:06:02 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:48:38AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: To follow up on this, the bug with the new patch is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/724154 also see the geda-user mailing list thread titled

Re: gEDA-user: pcb grid improvements... status of patch?

2011-07-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:06:02 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: Maybe we can store the grids in user preferences instead, but that's potentially a fair bit of work. Regardless of implementation difficulty, user preferences are NOT the place to store grid configurations, since each

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