Re: [Geeqie-devel] File types for external editor [Was: Support questions off topic here?]

2014-09-21 Thread Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh
Good question (what if I rename a test.NEF to test.nef?)
That didn't work.

geeqie --version yields geeqie1.1    which is what i got from sudo
apt-get install.

Interesting that geeqie starts external editor gimp with any incoming *.jpg
*.png *.gif or even *.tif but not *.nef or *.NEF, even though geeqie makes
the NEF thumbnails nicely.

I posted this on a mint linux forum and someone else (using KDE) said it
worked for them.  Perhaps this is a MimeType issue outside of geeqie?  I'll
poke around.

I'm thinking about backing up my user files and installing a latest and
greatest KDE  (am now using Mint Mate)


On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Ian Zimmerman i...@buug.org wrote:

 On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 17:42:53 -0600,
 Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh sandy.pittendr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Colin However, if I highlght a raw x-nikon-nef file (the thumbnails
 Colin show up fine) and then try to start gimp I get an error dialog.
 Colin can't find matching file type

 Colin If I copy _PIC1234.NEF to test.tif , however, then gimp opens is
 Colin just fine.

 Colin mint linux uname -a Linux dungeon 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu
 Colin SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

 Colin edit=perferences=preferences=Files has a *.nef line

 Colin edit=perferences=external editor=Gimp has a MimeType line, to
 Colin which I added ;image/x-nikon-nef, but still no luck.

 Colin Any ideas about how to get geeqie to open gimp, with an incoming
 Colin filename parameter that is a nikon raw file *.NEF?

 Is it case-sensitive?  What happens if you rename it to pic1234.nef ?

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] File types for external editor [Was: Support questions off topic here?]

2014-09-21 Thread Jon Senior
I think that since nef files need to be passed through dcraw (or ufraw if you 
want a GUI.), gimp pays as much attention to your passing it a nef as it would 
to a word document. On my computer, geeqie doesn't list gimp as an option for 
camera raw files but offers ufraw... from where you can send the image to gimp. 
Direct raw support in gimp is a few versions away as I understand it.

Sorry for the top post... Android sucka a bit for that.

Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh sandy.pittendr...@gmail.com a écrit :

Good question (what if I rename a test.NEF to test.nef?)
That didn't work.

geeqie --version yields geeqie1.1    which is what i got from sudo
apt-get install.

Interesting that geeqie starts external editor gimp with any incoming *.jpg
*.png *.gif or even *.tif but not *.nef or *.NEF, even though geeqie makes
the NEF thumbnails nicely.

I posted this on a mint linux forum and someone else (using KDE) said it
worked for them.  Perhaps this is a MimeType issue outside of geeqie?  I'll
poke around.

I'm thinking about backing up my user files and installing a latest and
greatest KDE  (am now using Mint Mate)


On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Ian Zimmerman i...@buug.org wrote:

 On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 17:42:53 -0600,
 Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh sandy.pittendr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Colin However, if I highlght a raw x-nikon-nef file (the thumbnails
 Colin show up fine) and then try to start gimp I get an error dialog.
 Colin can't find matching file type

 Colin If I copy _PIC1234.NEF to test.tif , however, then gimp opens is
 Colin just fine.

 Colin mint linux uname -a Linux dungeon 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu
 Colin SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

 Colin edit=perferences=preferences=Files has a *.nef line

 Colin edit=perferences=external editor=Gimp has a MimeType line, to
 Colin which I added ;image/x-nikon-nef, but still no luck.

 Colin Any ideas about how to get geeqie to open gimp, with an incoming
 Colin filename parameter that is a nikon raw file *.NEF?

 Is it case-sensitive?  What happens if you rename it to pic1234.nef ?

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] File types for external editor [Was: Support questions off topic here?]

2014-09-21 Thread Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh
Jon Seniors observation gave me an idea.  UFRaw appears in geeqie's
external editors  menu for me.  So I tried it.  Geeqie sends *.NEF just
fine to UFRaw.

But for some reason not to gimp, which uses UFRaw when the incoming file is
*.NEF or *.nef

Not sure what that means.  Or how the plugin mechanism works in Gimp.  Is
UFRaw really a plugin for gimp, or does Gimp start UFRaw up as a full
fledged process, and then capture its output?

Perhaps this is indeed more of a Gimp question.



On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Jon Senior j...@restlesslemon.co.uk wrote:

 I think that since nef files need to be passed through dcraw (or ufraw if
 you want a GUI.), gimp pays as much attention to your passing it a nef as
 it would to a word document. On my computer, geeqie doesn't list gimp as an
 option for camera raw files but offers ufraw... from where you can send the
 image to gimp. Direct raw support in gimp is a few versions away as I
 understand it.

 Sorry for the top post... Android sucka a bit for that.

 Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh sandy.pittendr...@gmail.com a écrit :


 Good question (what if I rename a test.NEF to test.nef?)
 That didn't work.

 geeqie --version yields geeqie1.1    which is what i got from sudo
 apt-get install.

 Interesting that geeqie starts external editor gimp with any incoming
 *.jpg *.png *.gif or even *.tif but not *.nef or *.NEF, even though geeqie
 makes the NEF thumbnails nicely.

 I posted this on a mint linux forum and someone else (using KDE) said it
 worked for them.  Perhaps this is a MimeType issue outside of geeqie?  I'll
 poke around.

 I'm thinking about backing up my user files and installing a latest and
 greatest KDE  (am now using Mint Mate)


 On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Ian Zimmerman i...@buug.org wrote:

 On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 17:42:53 -0600,
 Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh sandy.pittendr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Colin However, if I highlght a raw x-nikon-nef file (the thumbnails
 Colin show up fine) and then try to start gimp I get an error dialog.
 Colin can't find matching file type

 Colin If I copy _PIC1234.NEF to test.tif , however, then gimp opens is
 Colin just fine.

 Colin mint linux uname -a Linux dungeon 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu
 Colin SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

 Colin edit=perferences=preferences=Files has a *.nef line

 Colin edit=perferences=external editor=Gimp has a MimeType line, to
 Colin which I added ;image/x-nikon-nef, but still no luck.

 Colin Any ideas about how to get geeqie to open gimp, with an incoming
 Colin filename parameter that is a nikon raw file *.NEF?

 Is it case-sensitive?  What happens if you rename it to pic1234.nef ?

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] File types for external editor [Was: Support questions off topic here?]

2014-09-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 03:03:57 +0200,
Jon Senior j...@restlesslemon.co.uk wrote:

Jon I think that since nef files need to be passed through dcraw (or
Jon ufraw if you want a GUI.), gimp pays as much attention to your
Jon passing it a nef as it would to a word document. On my computer,
Jon geeqie doesn't list gimp as an option for camera raw files but
Jon offers ufraw... from where you can send the image to gimp. Direct
Jon raw support in gimp is a few versions away as I understand it.

I thought of this too but he did say it worked when he renamed the file
to *.tif.  Which makes a bit of sense because many RAW formats are
actually variants on TIFF.

gimp would still see only 8 bits of each pixel color value, though.
Definitely not the ideal tool for handling them.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] File types for external editor [Was: Support questions off topic here?]

2014-09-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 20:07:18 -0600,
Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh sandy.pittendr...@gmail.com wrote:

Colin Not sure what that means.  Or how the plugin mechanism works in
Colin Gimp.  Is UFRaw really a plugin for gimp, or does Gimp start
Colin UFRaw up as a full fledged process, and then capture its output?

ufraw is _both_ a standalone program and a gimp plugin.  When you set it
as an external editor in geeqie, you're using the standalone program.
When you open it in gimp and gimp is configured accordingly, you're
using the plugin.

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